Real-World Trade-In Values

sweete · September 2004

Yes, $35,110 is original MSRP before dealer added stuff (Market Adj,clear bra,"appearance pkg") of $2,480 to get to the dealers addendum sticker of $37,590.

The dealership has the title to the 2002.

Thanks much Terry!

sand · September 2004

Looking for a trade-in price on '02 Denali w/sunroof, bucket seats on 2nd row, 70K miles. One-owner vehicle and has been well cared for. Want to trade on '04 Denali which dealer has quoted price of $45,000.

rroyce10 · September 2004

1999.5 LE
4x4
Automatic
Bozo CD/Cassette
Moonroof
Side air bags
90,300 miles (ouch, not all mine)
Pearl white over tan cows
New tires and brakes
All service up to date
Clean carfax
A couple of scrapes on the rear bumper cover, and a door ding or two.
Parked in St. Louis, MO

Thanks for your help!

************

              Here a Path, there a Path .. old Mcdonald had a Path .......

            Another auto 99.5 LE 4x4 with some miles going on .. we got the Bozo sound, we even have the slider and side balloons, pearl with the tan guts - good combo anywhere, new sneakers and stoppers, service is 100%, clean history, a few friendly K-mart kisses here and there and your down the street from KC Chiefs ... if it's as nice as you say it is, no funny stuff in the ashtrays, no soccer Mom interior .. then trade side, in and around the tall $8's, maybe the low $9's on a good day ...

                 Let me know how it goes ...!

                              Terry.

theshawn · September 2004

Terry, thank you very much for your response. Thanks everyone for your responses (and feeling bad for me). Wow, I had no idea it would be so bad...TMV was showing more like $21k on trade-in sans-issues of course...even if insurance covers repair...we still get killed on resale value. Well, I was leaning towards keeping my car, the $9-10k resale has me falling over into my still empty engine bay!

rroyce10 · September 2004

..... My heart goes out to all the nice folks in Dustin, Mobile, Montgomery, Huntsville, Chattanooga and every place else thats takin' a licking because of Ivan ........................... ;(

Terry.

alfox · September 2004

on Jeanne.

michael143 · September 2004

I'm not sure what you mean by your response,if you are reffering to the location of the car, it is in southern ct. If you are reffering to the actual spelling of the word location, you have my email confused with a different email. Please just a straight anwser.Just want some help.
Thank you
Michael

Kirstie_H · September 2004

Hi Michael,
I'm sure he was referring to the location of the vehicle. The same vehicle will be worth different $$ depending on the market in the particular area. You'll find the same with our True Market Value tool - for example, a black Jetta may sell more easily for more $$ in Maine than in Florida.

To give you a "straight answer," Terry needs that info. He volunteers at lot of time in here, so I'm sure it's as frustrating to him as it is to you that he couldn't answer your question the first time - please don't take offense!! Now that you've provided the location, I'm sure an answer will be forthcoming.

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

qbrozen · September 2004

relax, mike. its all good. if you had been here or went back and read the last 5K, 10K, 22K posts, you'd get what Terry was saying. He meant no offense, as I'm sure you didn't either (although I do believe you may get jumped on for stating "please just a straight answer", which sounds rather demanding). Yes, CT was the correct answer. Location makes a difference with cars, just like in real estate.

edit: d'oh! host beat me to it.

kichan · September 2004

Hi Terry -

Can you tell me what the trade-in value would be on my '97 Saturn? The details are as follows:

4 door SL1
103,500 miles
Black Gold exterior, tan interior
Sunroof
Power windows & doors
Driver & passenger front airbags
Post factory alarm with engine starter installed
Headliner has water stains from leaking sunroof (now fixed, but stains are still there)
Brakes replaced 1 month ago
Up to date on all services

Any help would be appreciated.

woodyww · September 2004

I'm curious........is this X5 from a bmw dealer? If so, does it have the CPO ext. warranty? And do you know how many months are left on the original warranty? Also, have you done a carfax, &/or seen a bmw dealer printout of the service history? All good questions to ask when buying a $45K used German car. Oh yeah, & having it checked out very carefully for any previous body damage..........

zodiac2004 · September 2004

My guess for the trade-in, before Terry gets to this - is $750 or less, but Terry may need a location.

kichan · September 2004

Sorry - location is NY...

jaserb · September 2004

Time to get serious about selling my:

93 Sentra SE-R
White with grey interior
5 speed
60,300 original miles
Provo, UT area
1 shallow dent in the driver's door 6" long or so with some touch up paint
A couple tiny parking lot dings with no paint broken
Scuffs on the lower part of the front bumper
Just had it detailed, shines up nicely
No cruise, no roof, no PW/ no PL - base SE-R only
Cold A/C
Original Nissan AM/FM Cassette
New front brake pads and rotors 5k miles ago
Michelins match but needs new rubber
One busted driving light lens, but both lights work
Missing center caps from alloy wheels

Overall, it's not perfect but is in very nice condition, 100% original with NO aftermarket mods. Any thoughts on a private party number? Also, do you think the local paper is the best way to go here, or should I try eBay/AutoTrader for a wider audience? It's pretty hard to find these in decent condition anymore.

Or should I make my wife mad and just keep it

Thanks in advance,
Jason

ps My e-mail is now public

driftracer · September 2004

it to the "Jim needs a new autocross car" fund...

robbieg · September 2004

I am new to this board and I am not sure how this works. I am looking to put a trade-in value on my GTI. I loved my VW for the first couple of years but the time has come to unload the thing.

Here is the info.

1999 GTI GLS (4 cyl, new body style)
5 speed
Red, Black cloth interior with red trim.
Pittsburgh, PA
59,000
Tape deck, no cd, no monsoon, no options.

Condition - Could be better. Makes a grinding noise when it starts. My mechanic years ago told me it was the starter and it wasn't worth fixing until it broke. Well it hasn't broke and thus it hasn't been fixed. Rear wiper has always sort of worked. Tires match and have some life left on them. A few years ago I backed into a telephone pole and as a result there are two very small "holes" in the paint on the corner of the rear bumper. Each of them significantly smaller than a dime. Which have been touched up in a quick amateurish way. You won't notice them from a distance. However, you can find them when you are up close. Also, left rear bumper is pressed in a 1/8 of an inch where the bumper meets the wheel well. Interior cleans up well. However, I wore through the original drivers floor mat and have replaced it with a wall mart special.

Thanks in advance for the help.

tornado25 · September 2004

Sand, L O C A T I O N!

Folks that are new to the board, take a look at robbieg's post (#22109). It is probably the best example of what a good "What is my car worth?" post should look like.

kichan, NY is pretty big. There may (but may not) be differences between NYC and Watertown on this one...not being rude, I'm trying to help.

Here's something I posted a bit back to help you decide how to list location.

If you live in or pretty near a metro area, something like "Milwaukee" is good. If you live in a suburb, something like "Whitefish Bay" is too specific--Terry's no cartographer, so in that case, something like "northern Milwaukee suburbs" is better. Finally, if you do live in the middle of nowhere, something like Beaver, WI is totally unhelpful, but something like "Northern WI" is ok, because the market dynamics aren't a lot different from Beaver to Phillips. I live in Oconto, WI. So where the hell is that? BUT, if I say "Green Bay area" that's great, a) because he knows where that is and b) it's where I would likely sell or trade in the car anyway. Lastly, zip codes are not locations....

Sylvia · September 2004

It helps if the responses on this stay in the discussion (rather than email) so everyone benefits from the answer - thanks.

qbrozen · September 2004

unfortunately, i think the refresher posts are kind of a waste of time. it seems that those who come on and say something like "i have a '90 Chevy. What's it worth?" just don't go back and read any of the past posts. so although you gave a refresher today, someone will sign up as a new poster on edmunds in 2 days, come to this board and post a new query without reading anything. its just the way of the world, unfortunately.

stickguy · September 2004

having grown up in a NY suburb, I know from experience that when people say they live in NY, the mean NYC. If they live elsewhere in NYS, the say so.

Actually, most people that live in NYC think the state (if not the world) ends somewhere around the Rockland county border, but that's another issue.

jaserb · September 2004

Oh, absolutely. Last time I posted there were requests for more details offline from a couple of posters, so I just wanted to let folks know I'm available to answer any questions anyone might have without violating the Edmunds user agreement by making any sort of a solicitation to sell said vehicle, which this post is absolutely, unequivocally NOT doing...really...

There's a fine line, I guess...not sure if this response crossed it or not

-Jason

steine13 · September 2004

I heard Jason loud and clear, and I thought it was artfully done... I guess Sylvia needs practice with the soft sell...

And please, solicitation is bad... but I always appreciate it if I learn someone's got some nice wheels for sale... if I don't need them, I usually know someone who does... at the present time, there are at least two people here at work who could use a decent car.

For instance, if fensterlips' white 94 Benz had been in sunny Indianapolis instead of dreary SoCal, it's even money I'd be driving it today...

-Mathias

michael143 · September 2004

Yes the x5 is being sold by a bmw dealer,the original warranty runs out in 06/06/2005,for an addition 1700.00 I can C.P.O until 6/27/2008 or 100.000 miles. I have seen the service history and there is nothing major on it. The body from what I can see without putting it on a lift looks in great shape. I have not done a carfax, do I need to if I have seen the service records.

Thanks

corvette · September 2004

>>>if I don't need them, I usually know someone who does<<<

If I don't need them, I usually want to buy them anyway!

alfox · September 2004

Is there any way to put some instructions in the header to this thread so that people can find out what info is needed? Or, can you create a link to some instructions for people asking for a value? Ideally it would be a form that people fill in that is then posted in a message, but just a list of information that is needed would be helpful.

mybuy · September 2004

I'm new to the board to, so I hope I'm complete in my info. I plan to sell my Astro conversion myself and it's been tough getting good pricing info on conversions, so any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Location - Northern Cincinnati suburbs
2002 AWD Astro Explorer conversion
Leather seats
Power and heated front seats
Power rear bench seat - folds flat
In-ceiling DVD + TV receiver + video game plug-in
Mood lighting around ceiling
Wood trim
Pleated shades on side windows
Power locks with Key fob activation
Towing package + hitch
Running boards
AM/FM/CD player
Rear heat and A/C
Pewter color with custom striping
55,000 miles
Dutch doors at rear with defroster

Condition is overall very good. I've kept multiple floor mats on the carpet, so that's in excellent shape. There are a few rock chips on the fenders and 2 small dings on the front fender where someone backed into me with a trailer hitch. Just had the transmission replaced. Has been regularly serviced as required at the Chevy dealer. The rear door window has some minor etching from the wiper blade. Cost to replace is $312 - is that something I should do before I put it on the market? Thanks!

alfox · September 2004

Howdy to a Cincinnatian - I was raised in Silverton and then moved to Finneytown for HS. Great city.

rroyce10 · September 2004

4 door SL1
103,500 miles
Black Gold exterior, tan interior
Sunroof
Power windows & doors
Driver & passenger front airbags
Post factory alarm with engine starter installed
Headliner has water stains from leaking sunroof (now fixed, but stains are still there)
Brakes replaced 1 month ago
Up to date on all services
Any help would be appreciated. -- NY ..

   =================================

              Well ................ the miles aren't bad for the year, it better be an auto, we have the power pack, color is good for the area, the rubber better be deeper than my buddies flooded house in Pensacola, sunroof sounds aftermarket and we have new stoppers .... IF ~ we have cold breeze, serviced, looks/feels and drives like a 50ker .. then trade side in and around the $1,5ish zipcode, if it's a just a rough ol' 100k Saturn that needs stuff then your driving a $900 vehicle - or less .................

                                  Terry.

Sylvia · September 2004

Surely - drop me an email and let's figure the wording out in email. No problem to put it in the header.

corvette · September 2004

It might take up a lot of room on the page. You could post a link, but that would be easy to overlook. Decisions, decisions...

kichan · September 2004

Terry -

Thanks for the response. To be more specific about the area where I live, it's in Orange County, NY (about 50 miles NW of Manhattan). The sunroof came with the car (bought it as a demo w/about 8K miles). Yes, it is an automatic.

rroyce10 · September 2004

Yes, $35,110 is original MSRP before dealer added stuff (Market Adj,clear bra,"appearance pkg") of $2,480 to get to the dealers addendum sticker of $37,590.
The dealership has the title to the 2002.
Thanks much Terry!

              ==========================

             I'm just guessing here "(Market Adj,clear bra,"appearance pkg" .. sounds like some hinky *carriage roof and some wheels, maybe some tape to give it a two-tone look* so maybe the dealer dropped another $700ish into it - I'm guessing ...



                       Put that all aside, Profit is not a 4 letter word.


                     But, like my great Grand Daddy used to say: You can be a Lion and you can be a Tiger, but never be a Pig .....

                If I were you (and I'm not) I would make an appointment with the dealer/owner or the GM or both, make sure you have a good attitude on this .. it's fair the dealer makes a profit on both vehicles, this way he doesn't feel cheated and you both can walk out winning .. allow him to make a $900ish profit on the new vehicle and rewrite the contract, then cancel the extended warranty "after" you leave, which is another $1,000 savings for your parents, all in all they could save "around" $2,000 plus the tax ..

                     Remember, If you go in yelling and demanding, then human nature will kick in and the dealer will just get into a defense postour and go deaf - as a rule these situations can get ugly ~ *but properly done* the dealer will feel good and the customer feels better when both parties discuss and understand both sides of the situation .. that being said, I don't feel a $100 over invoice deal will do the trick in the discussions, if you know what I mean ...

             I hope this helps and let me know what happens ....

                            Terry.

mybuy · September 2004

I'm new to the board to, so I hope I'm complete in my info. I plan to sell my Astro conversion myself and it's been tough getting good pricing info on conversions, so any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Location - Northern Cincinnati suburbs
2002 AWD Astro Explorer conversion
Leather seats
Power and heated front seats
Power rear bench seat - folds flat
In-ceiling DVD + TV receiver + video game plug-in
Mood lighting around ceiling
Wood trim
Pleated shades on side windows
Power locks with Key fob activation
Towing package + hitch
Running boards
AM/FM/CD player
Rear heat and A/C
Pewter color with custom striping
55,000 miles
Dutch doors at rear with defroster

Condition is overall very good. I've kept multiple floor mats on the carpet, so that's in excellent shape. There are a few rock chips on the fenders and 2 small dings on the front fender where someone backed into me with a trailer hitch. Just had the transmission replaced. Has been regularly serviced as required at the Chevy dealer. The rear door window has some minor etching from the wiper blade. Cost to replace is $312 - is that something I should do before I put it on the market? Thanks!

qbrozen · September 2004

i think alfox's idea of creating a form is brilliant. any chance that could be worked in somehow?

mybuy · September 2004

I'm new to the board to, so I hope I'm complete in my info. I plan to sell my Astro conversion myself and it's been tough getting good pricing info on conversions, so any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Location - Northern Cincinnati suburbs
2002 AWD Astro Explorer conversion
Leather seats
Power and heated front seats
Power rear bench seat - folds flat
In-ceiling DVD + TV receiver + video game plug-in
Mood lighting around ceiling
Wood trim
Pleated shades on side windows
Power locks with Key fob activation
Towing package + hitch
Running boards
AM/FM/CD player
Rear heat and A/C
Pewter color with custom striping
55,000 miles
Dutch doors at rear with defroster

Condition is overall very good. I've kept multiple floor mats on the carpet, so that's in excellent shape. There are a few rock chips on the fenders and 2 small dings on the front fender where someone backed into me with a trailer hitch. Just had the transmission replaced. Has been regularly serviced as required at the Chevy dealer. The rear door window has some minor etching from the wiper blade. Cost to replace is $312 - is that something I should do before I put it on the market? Thanks!

rroyce10 · September 2004

...... **i think alfox's idea of creating a form is brilliant. any chance that could be worked in somehow?**

It's about time, only been asking for 3 years ....!!!

Remember, no zipcodes and no big words ............................

Terry.

rroyce10 · September 2004

L O C A T I O N ................................................................. .................................................................- .......................... translation: where do we park this bad boy.?

Terry.

rroyce10 · September 2004

........ Hows the Benz doing ..... ?

Terry.

Sylvia · September 2004

Hmmm - first time I've been asked for it (but I also haven't been hanging out here other than scanning every so often). If you want/need something - it is always best to post the request in "Ask the Hosts."

I'll see what I can figure out on this today.

rroyce10 · September 2004

What is the value of a 99 volvo GLT (wagon), 38,000 miles, red, location is the Cincinnati, OH area. Car has leather interior, sunroof, heated seats, cd player, etc. Excellent condition except for a scrape on the front bumper.
thanks

               ===========================

           In the land of the Bengals .. we have a 99 GLT wagon with 38,000 short miles .. color is kinda good, probably tan guts, slider, cold pack, tunes ... if - this one is waaay deep in rubber, serviced, no Jack the Ripper interior, no Dutch Boy paint work, just a nice vehicle that looks and drives like a 02 ... then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $9's, if it's super nice glows in the dark and needs -0- you "might" maybe "could" see the low low low low low low low $10's, these still do big money in your area ~ if they're nice ....... the only thing that might hold it back is the color.

                         Terry.

woodyww · September 2004

I'm no expert, but $45.5 sounds pretty high for an '02 4.4, even with the low miles & all the options. Try running the #'s on the Edmund's appraisal; at least it's a rough guide. I would at the very least get them to throw in the CPO. However, you could also buy a reasonably equipped brand new 3.0 for around that price, 4 year warranty, plenty quick, better gas mileage.........you can pick out options, colors, pricing, etc on the bmwna website. Just a thought.

Woody

alfox · September 2004

If you do the link and form real well you might bury Terry! You might have to put Terry on staff, and go find the missing brentwoodvolvo as well. Better add a legal disclaimer too, lol.

kyfdx · September 2004

It seems kind of strange that this car isn't already CPO.. I know they don't have to CPO it, but this unit seems like what the program is designed for.. Your warranty expiration dates seem kind of strange.. Every CPO I've seen has a warranty expiration date exactly 2 years after the original warranty expires.. If they are CPOing it, make sure it is the actual BMW warranty, and not an aftermarket.

Sylvia · September 2004

Try the link in the header. It isn't perfect, but should work until I have a better solution.

I tried putting what is on the list (courtesy of alfox) directly in the top gray area but it took up to much room.

corvette · September 2004

Looks nice, thanks a bunch, Sylvia!

mybuy · September 2004

I'm not sure why the Forum ended up with 3 copies of my message - I only did send it once. Sorry for the inconvenience - any idea why it got posted 3x?

Howdy back to those familiar with the Cinci area!

Kirstie_H · September 2004

If you hit "refresh," your message gets re-posted.

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

alfox · September 2004

Repeat that link in the "Post a Message" area just above the Title:. More people will pick it up there.

bowke28 · September 2004

good idea. i think the best place would be at the bottom of the message box, between the box and the "post my message/check spelling/cancel" buttons.

Sylvia · September 2004

I have the ability to edit/add information in the discussion headers. We don't have the same ability in the post box area - that is a code/template change.

Once I put the link to the pop-up form in the header and made sure it worked, I put the inquiry in to Sysop to see if we could get this implemented as "special instructions" (red text) in the post box area similar to what we have in the Prices Paid discussions.

Once I hear back Yes/No I can input a ticket for the work. If approved, it would take a week (we update on Wednesdays).

For now, the link in the header is the best I can do.

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