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  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    Good job.
    The two statements "would be snapped up fast" and "it's not worth it" are not mutually exclusive.

    These old Hondas are good cars, and some of the best in terms of sophistication AND simplicity. But they're usually overpriced, and there always seems to be someone who wants it worse than you do.

    I had a '91 Civic Si with 210k from California in early 2006, and I got $1700 for it inside of a very few days. When it was snowing.

    No air, a little rust here and there, loosey-goosey handling, but a decent little runner. People go nuts over those cars.

    Sane people typically buy something else, though...

    -Mathias
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,336
    It actually has 115K on it, and needs a muffler. Good Michelins though. Other than the muffler, it is generally pretty beat up. Some rust on the LR quater, and quite a few dents, etc. Fairly dirty inside.

    5 speed, ran and shfted pretty good. It was a college kids car, but his father is a mechanic, so it was (supposedly) maintained.

    Asking 1,600. From talking with the mom, a grand in cash could easily take it home.

    Probably an OK deal, for the price of a muffler and some minor stuff, and a lot of elbow grease. Could also grenade out, so who knows.

    If this car was clean as the board of health, I would have paid the 1.6K and ran.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    It seems to me that if you can buy a car for $1600 and drive it for 20k miles, you have gotten more than your money's worth out of the proposition.

    The question is whether the rust is so advanced that the car will fall apart before you attain the mileage. And in about 80% of the cases, the rust is just surface.
  • acurazruleacurazrule Member Posts: 7
    Pittsburgh PA Area
    2006 Honda Accord
    2 Dr
    3.0 V6 6MT
    FWD
    5,100
    Red with tan leather
    Roof, 6 Disc CD/XM, 17" Alloys, Honda Front & Rear Underbody Spoiler, Keyless Entry

    Car is in pristine condition with virtually no wear. I would like to know the trade in value. I am *considering* a trade on a Honda Pilot EX-L AWD. Can anybody offer some insight on the trade value itself and how much I'd expect to lose if I made such a trade? I read the buyers experiences and I know that some have mentioned that July may offer better incentives on the Pilots. Bottom line is I probably won't pull the trigger if the difference is too great. Any advice on the best way to approach the trade is appreciated.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Hard to say w/ the manual, but the range is probably somewhere $17-18,000
    If you are concerned about minimizing loss, a private sale would be best.
    Just keep in mind that end of year incentives work both ways. New cars are cheaper,but U/C values drop as well.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Three things that will make this car hard to sell.

    1. It's a coupe...not many people want these.

    2. It's a manual...even tougher to find a buyer.

    3. It's red...very tough color.

    Still, you never know. There may just be someone (like yourself)out there who is looking for this very car?
  • acurazruleacurazrule Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for the responses. I believe you're right on all three points. I suppose it would come down to how much a dealership would be willing to deal on an 07 Pilot EX-L. Most likely the difference is going to be too high so I'll probably end up holding on to the car.

    Thanks again.
  • jpdavisjpdavis Member Posts: 6
    I’ve inherited a 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5L SL. My wife & I currently have 3 cars & we just don’t need a 4th car…don’t get me wrong. I like driving this car. It’s very quick (270HP = no kidding) and smooth. Unfortunately, only one payment has been made on the loan amount.
    This car is in perfect shape. It was driven about 2 months before I came into possession of it. I’m looking for a little help on setting an asking price.
    MSRP = $28,400
    Dealer Invoice = $26,265
    Is $26K too much to ask for a “used” car?
    Any input is greatly appreciated.

    Location: Chattanooga, TN
    Year/Make/Model: 2007/Nissan/Altima
    Body Style: 4dr
    Engine: 3.5 liter, 6 cylinder, auto (CVT w/ manual shift capability)
    Driveline: FWD
    Mileage: 2000 miles
    Color: Slate gray exterior/ black leather interior
    Major Options: alloy wheels, sun roof, traction control system, Xenon headlights, 8-way power driver seat, leather interior, Bose AM/FM radio w/ in dash 6-disc cd/mp3 changer, bluetooth capability.
    Condition:
    Car is in mint condition. Purchased in March. Garage kept & driven for 2 months.
    Other: None
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Some dealers will dip in to their holdback and offer a lower price on a brand new car.

    Used is used. Life's not fair but you gotta beat their price by maybe 10% or so to attract buyers.
  • jpdavisjpdavis Member Posts: 6
    Good point.
    I'm going to take a hit on it. Just hoping to minimize my losses and do better than trading it in or surrendering it to the bank (worst case).

    I'm also battling dealer financing. I spoke to the salesman that sold the car originally and their dealership is currently offering 2.9% His advice was to list it on craigslist.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    maybe this is OT, but you inherited it? but its not paid for? I didn't even know that was possible. Did you sign to take possession of it? If not, and the person who owned it is no longer alive, can't you just let it get repo'd?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • jpdavisjpdavis Member Posts: 6
    The car belonged to my wife's uncle. She's the executrix of his will. She & her sister are his only heirs. Technically, we haven't inherited it, but we are responsible for it. He bought the car in March and had made 1 payment on it. We checked the loan paperwork and unfortunately, he did not sign up for the payment protection which would have paid the loan off in the event of his passing. The bank says that we can surrender the car to them. From what I've been told, if that happens, the bank will sell the car at auction and come after the estate for the balance of the loan.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Ok. So it is pretty much what I thought. You aren't really "responsible" for it in a sense that it won't affect your credit or anything. I understand you might want to sell it on your own, thereby reducing the hit on the estate by a grand or 2, but personally I'd let them take it and let the balance come out of the estate. Its just not worth the hassle to me. but that's, of course, personal opinion.

    And, remember, since the estate is divided between 2 people, whatever you get above wholesale by selling it on your own, minus advertising, detailing, etc, would be divided between 2 people. SOOO... if you net an extra thousand bucks, you get $500 for your troubles.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    True, but presumably the other $500 goes to someone they care about, so a grand is still a grand. ;)
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Auction value is somewhere around $20,000
    That would put private party at $22,000
  • pmanzapmanza Member Posts: 34
    VolvoMax
    Can you give me an idea of trade in value for a 2002 Lexus RX300. 91,800 miles, 2WD, white, sunroof, roofrack, leather, CD changer, all the standard Lexus stuff, just no nav, hid's or heated seats. In very good condition, tires have about 1 yr left on them, no tears or stains in interior, just a couple of parking lot door dings on exterior.
    Thanks
    Peggy
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Miles hurt on this one.
    Trade range is going to be between $12-14,000
    Prob closer to the $12-13 range.
  • pmanzapmanza Member Posts: 34
    thanks Volvomax, appreciate the quick response.
    Peggy
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    I'm with qbrozen on this one.
    Let them take it back, or at least wholesale it to a new-car dealer. Take it to three of them, and sell it to the highest bidder.

    Here's what's gonna happen otherwise:
    You will get calls from tire kickers, looky-loos, and kooks. You will be subjected to some of the worst chiselers out there, some of whom will come by two and three times without ever making an outright offer. This will wear you down.

    When you finally give in and sell it for $1,800 more than the highest dealer offer you got, and have worried sufficiently about whether the cashier's check you got was good...

    ... then the sibling's spouse will tell you that you "gave the car away."

    I just went through this, minus the sibling part. Got my truck sold tonight, finally, and got $1,400 less than I thought I could get -- this with professional advice -- plus I was subjected to some of the finest grinding techniques I have ever witnessed, never mind practised myself. My mind is much easier now that it's gone. And now that I spent 15 minutes looking at individual $100 bills and checking water marks and security strips. Sheesh.

    Do what you want, but don't act before you've given the matter some serious thought. I've sold 25 or so cars in the last decade. I'd HATE to have a $20+ car to sell.

    Cheers,
    -Mathias
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Exactly once you cross that 10k-12k barrier it gets tough to sell a used car privately.
  • 1racefan1racefan Member Posts: 932
    Got a Carmax in your area? Take it to them, and get an offer from them to buy it from you.
  • robbiegrobbieg Member Posts: 350
    This is assuming that the bank gets a reasonable price for a car. This same thing happened to my secretary. In her case the bank dumped the care and the estate ended up upside down more than a few thousand. To protect yourself I would try to sell it yourself.
  • jpdavisjpdavis Member Posts: 6
    Mathias,
    Thanks for the good advice.
    As somebody who hates to deal with the buying & selling cars, your point is definitely hitting home with me & I'm rethinking my plans.
    Another option that I've considered is trading the car in on a truck (say in the $10K range) & dump the negative equity in the Altima into the loan on the truck. I figure that if I'm buying another car from the dealer that they're more likely to give me a better price on the Altima, by balancing the profit they'll make on the truck vs. trade-in on the Altima.
    Does that make sense at all?
    Whew! Surrendering it to the bank is making more sense & is definitely the path of least resistance. I just hate the idea of the bank selling the car for $15k at auction & then having to pay them $12k. Ugh!
  • jpdavisjpdavis Member Posts: 6
    Hmmmm??? Their website's interesting.
    There's a location in Atlanta, which is fairly close.
  • 1racefan1racefan Member Posts: 932
    Take the car there, and they will give you a written figure they would be willing to buy the car for. That number is good for a certain # of days or miles. That would at least give you a number you could compare other offers/scenarios to.
  • asafonovasafonov Member Posts: 401
    Another option that I've considered is trading the car in on a truck (say in the $10K range) & dump the negative equity in the Altima into the loan on the truck.

    Reasonable course of action, but only if you would have bought the truck in the first place.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    Surrendering it to the bank is making more sense

    I'm leaning towards what robbieg said about that: how do you know the bank will get market value for the car? Also, how do you know whether how the bank sells it is strictly on the up & up? Are they required to give you info on what auction they put it in, price realized, etc? If the bank rips you off, or sells it incompetently, I doubt you'd have much recourse.

    I'd take it to carmax if there's one near you. If that fails, see what a few car dealers will give you.

    P.S.-What is the loan balance, or did I miss that part?
  • jpdavisjpdavis Member Posts: 6
    Loan balance is somewhere around $28K...not sure of exact amount right now.
    I took it by a Nissan dealership today and they said that they could give me $22K + or - $200-300. They're having a tough time pricing it 'cause it's so new.
    Going to check out another dealership tomorrow.
    Option #4c - My wife's sister has a friends who is a car salesman at a major dealership in town. He told her that we could put it on their lot.
  • uncle_ricouncle_rico Member Posts: 12
    Location: Dallas area

    Year/Make/Model: 99 Nissan Altima SE Auto

    Mileage: 95K

    Color: exterior - Black / interior - tan (cloth)

    Major Options: sunroof, rear spoiler, alloy wheels

    Condition:

    Exterior - Faded paint on front bumper, several scratches and dings along the drivers side.

    Interior - Only thing worth noting is the drivers side sun visor does not fold all the way up. Otherwise the inside is clean and well kept...also non-smoker.

    KBB says $3K for fair. Just looking for guestimates. Thanks.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    $3000 if the car looked good.
    Prob closer to $2500 as it sits.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    I took it by a Nissan dealership today and they said that they could give me $22K + or - $200-300

    volvomax said: "Auction value is somewhere around $20,000
    That would put private party at $22,000"

    My wife's sister has a friends who is a car salesman at a major dealership in town. He told her that we could put it on their lot

    "putting it on somebody's lot" is totally different than a CIF (cash-in-fist, a Terryism I think) offer. Why turn down a very good firm offer ($2k more than the auction estimate by volvomax!) to fool around more "trying" to sell it? Personally, I'd be selling it to that Nissan dealership, like TODAY. Unless it's easy for you to take it to a Carmax SOON to compare offers. "putting it on somebody's lot" is just prolonging the agony & uncertainty, with uncertain results.....

    It sounds like you've already got a great offer @$22k-ish, what more do you want?
  • idntnvuidntnvu Member Posts: 254
    My father is buying a 2007 Grand Prix GXP with all options but the navigation. He would like Retail/Trade values for it, as well as his old '98 Grand Prix GT. Below are the vehicles:

    Hillsville, VA 24343
    2007 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP
    4 door
    5.3 liter V8 with Active Fuel Management
    Automatic Transmission with Manual mode (buttons on wheel)
    Front Wheel Driver
    15,800 miles
    Silver Exterior, Black leather interior
    18 inch chrome alloy wheels, power sunroof, power windows/locks/mirrors, power heated seats, dual zone automatic climate control, head up display, 6-disc in dash cd changer, XM satellite radio, on-star w/ hands free phone, (basically everything but the navigation)
    new like appearance in and out
    tires 7/10's front, 5/10's rear (10/10's new)

    Hillsville Va 24343
    1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
    3.8 liter V6
    Automatic Transmission
    front wheel drive
    188,000 miles
    red ext, gray cloth int
    chome alloy wheels, power sunroof, power windows/locks/mirrors, cd player
    small dent front hood above headlight (from a deer)
    tires and brakes...I think replaced last year

    What do you think?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Agreed, $22k is all the money.
  • rps1rps1 Member Posts: 13
    How is the car equipped? A dealer is going to short change you, and its tough selling it privately because of the private financing. People tend to buy from a dealer because they give anyone financing regardless of their credit or lack there of. Have you advertised it at all? Good luck.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    OK...

    The '98? Probably better off donating it and taking the writeoff. Dent in a hood and HUGE miles make this a wholesale piece for any new car store (Heck, it's rare to retail any 98 by now...). Reality? $800bucks to a grand. I bet it KBBs out for silly money like $3-4k.. might seriously consider getting the writeoff.

    OK.. the 07.. in the northeast they are $19k wholesale pieces give or take a nickel. Plus transport, auction fees, etc... I'd think somewhere in the $22k range would buy it.

    What do they want for it and did you get a # on the trade?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    $22,000?

    Step 1: Grab Title, keys, books, floormats, etc.
    Step 2: Drive to dealer that offered you $22k.
    Step 3: Grab check.
    Step 4: Get to bank as soon as humanly possible and cash check, the ether might wear off.

    That's a $20-21k car perhaps... they must really want it.
  • thenebeanthenebean Member Posts: 1,124
    last i heard about donating cars...charities are now waiting until it sells at auction so you get a tax break for what it wholesales for, not what KBB says. apparently, the IRS has caught on to people donationg a $500 car, and getting a $4000 tax break because thats what KBB said...

    -thene :)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,547
    That's right... You can only deduct the amount the charity receives for the car.

    There may be different rules for charities that actually fix up the car and give it to someone... but, those are few and far between.

    As always, consult your tax professional.. ;)

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  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    I am thinking if it runs and looks pretty good except for the dent. It would not last long on the laundr-o-mat bulletin board with an asking price of $1500 and a good picture of the car. Add some maintenance records to the front seat and it might even bring the full $1500 cash in a day or two.
  • Eric001Eric001 Member Posts: 2
    Hello Everyone,

    I would appreciate a real-world value for a 2003 Ford Mustang GT, 71,xxx miles, Black/Black Leather, 5-Speed, Mach Audio CD Changer.

    Front bumper was scratched parking too close to something a couple of years ago, and professionally re-painted. Ford Premium Care Extended Warranty to 75,000 miles. Paint shiny, interior in good shape, no mechanical defects that I know of.

    Thanks! :)
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Eric,

    Since it has leather and Mach, I'll assume it also has cruise, power windows and locks, and 17s.

    Im thinking in the 9s myself... assuming it's really clean and nice, might hit 9500-9700.

    Miles are no help, and if there's any value in the warranty left, cash it in.
  • Eric001Eric001 Member Posts: 2
    Thank you very much for your help, Brentwood.

    As you assumed, it does have cruise, power windows/locks, and 17's.

    Have a great weekend.

    Eric
  • nortsr1nortsr1 Member Posts: 1,060
    light metallic sandstone color, (Fla. car) 27,000 miles,V6,auto.cruise control,,p/w, pdl, etc. leather, heated seats,power seat, vent visors,bug deflector,running boards, tinted windows, trailer hitch (but never used), all dealer sevices up to date, car in very good condition, no dents or dings,would like a trade-in value please.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Eric,

    Glad to be of help.

    Nort.. FWD or AWD? Ehh.. not a huge difference in Florida anyways. This is a Premier, right?

    Probably really high 13s to about 14k.. maybe 14,2-300 if they gotta have it. if it's an AWD, not a huge premium down there.

    A Lincoln-Mercury dealer is going to be the high bidder on that probably.
  • nortsr1nortsr1 Member Posts: 1,060
    im-brentwood....Thanks, it is FWD, and your price is just about the same as what I received when I entered the vehicle statistics into the Edmunds trade-in area. Again, thanks for the fast response.
  • luvcarzrichluvcarzrich Member Posts: 36
    Any help would be appreicated...

    Mahwah, NJ 07430
    2002 GMC Envoy SLT AWD
    88,000 miles
    Red
    Roof, alloy wheels
    Good condition.

    Thanks!
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Prob about 10 grand.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    OK.. the killer here are the miles, high miles are a bigger smack in our market (I live in Englewood) than elsewhere.

    I'd think in and around $8500-9k.. gut reaction is $8500, but I haven't seen it.... $10k to the right guy in Texas or Cali perhaps.. but not in NJ.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Fairbanks, AK
    2001 Dodge Durango SLT Plus
    4 dr SUV
    4.7L V8/auto
    4WD
    79k miles
    Black/tan leather
    pwr everything, leather, heated seats, 3rd row seat, rear heat/a/c, am/fm/cd/cass, running boards

    Exterior condition is pretty good, a few small dings, all rock chips have been touched up. Interior is good, driver's side seat has a rip in the front that needs repaired, everything works correctly. No breaks in glass. Non-smoker, no pets, 2 owner car, clean carfax, no accidents. Tires are about 75%, complete brake job 8k miles ago.

    Thanks! :blush:
  • luvcarzrichluvcarzrich Member Posts: 36
    Thanks guys. I'll shoot for $10k and settle for $9k, hopefully.

    Appreciate it.
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