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the REAL question is how fast a town car could go IF: 1.) you went to the top of a 1 mile long hill with a 30% grade and; 2.) had a 2001 Town Car with each of the 4 foot wells cut out (so that you could put your feet on the highway) and; 3.) had four 300 lb. Wrestlers/bodybuilders sitting - one in each seat and; 4.) Put the car in neutral and 5.) from a dead stop... had the guys start to paddle their feet like the Flintstones....
just how fast would you get going by the bottom of the hill?
Oh yeah, the brakes would have been removed... so stopping would have to be accomplished by the Flintstone method.
Has any one had an opportunity to drive one of the new extended wheelbase TCs? I was wondering if the car twists and flexes as much as I expect it will.
My daughter owns a 90 Lincoln Towncar, and has some problems with the suspension in the back, she has just put $700 into an air bag in the back, I don't know the technical term for it. My question is, Is this car going to nickel and dime her to death and what are some of the most typical problems she can expect from this car? What kind of gas mileage can you expect from this car? Thank-you.
If you just replaced the air bags on the town car, that is a biggie as far as repair expenses go. If the tranny and engine are in good shape, you shouldn't have any real reliability issues, so long as you are willing to ignore some of the doohickey problems you will get with a luxury car.(You know, all the small time problems with the luxury items that don't affect drivability). BTW, "doohickey" is a very technical term.
In re: to post #395 (skg), is there a similar solution to installing a cd changer in a 95? I have found a factory cd control unit at a salvage yard for $125 but no factory changer. Could I buy an aftermarket unit and wire (plug) it into the the control? Thanks for any and all assistance.
I realize I should get the Motorcraft wires/plugs to get the better seal on the boots. I reinstalled the wires and noticed three had moisture (rust on the plugs on the outside). I cleaned up the outside of the plugs, regreased the boot ends, and made sure I positioned the plug wires to get a good seal. I noticed I have to push down a little harder than I would like, but it pops on the plug and seals the hole. It fixed the missing of the engine, if I continue to have problems in the future I will have to bend over and buy the Motorcraft wires. ($107 here).
well the lincoln dealer said he could installa a cd changer for $250.00 for my 94 towncar. we'll see when i return in a few months what the price will be?
I've got a '97 TC Exec Series with the standard single exhaust. When replacing the exhaust system, would there be noticeable improvement in power and mileage to go to dual exhaust as in the Touring Sedans? Would it be worth the investment or is my engine optimized for single?
Considering all the 'sensors' on and around the engine I would guess some imbalance might take place should the exhaust be twinned out. Perhaps a sensor measuring exhaust gases would be tricked into 'thinking' the combustion should be changed to 'rich' or 'richer' causing an increased consumption in fuel. IMO, leave the factory settings & equipment as is and if an increase in mileage is desired - increase all tires to 35 lbs of air. Make sure the air filter is new and switch to a synthetic oil. Avoid Costco gas & buy name brand fuel from high volume stations. I think your engine is optimized for a single pipe.
Are there any websites for performance oriented tuning of TC's? Basically wondering if the suspension can be tightened up a bit and maybe a few more horses.
You will increase HP by going to dual exhaust. However, you should also have your chip reprogrammed to give you a bit more RPM. If you really want to improve the performance of a town car, the best bang/buck option is to change the rear end to a 3.55 or better rear end from the 2.73 that is standard on the "slow" TCs.
Hello, I am thinking about going and lookinhg at a 98 towncar. Before I go look I want to hear from a few other owners. I am 5'2" and I was wondering if I am going to be able to see over the dash, I have that problem with a lot other cars and I am hoping I don't with this car because I do want a really good ride. They have one don't they? So if you could please email me at cgallup7@yahoo.com I would be very gracious. Thank you
I have a '92 Town Car Signature Series with the JBL Audio System Cassette/CD Player. I am looking for info on the 10 CD Changer mounted in the truck. When I purchased the car (used) the CD Changer was missing and I would like to replace it but the owner's manual just calls it a 10 CD Changer with no Part's numbers or identification. Can someone tell me what it is so I can look for one? Thanks, Pam
As you can see from Post #419 I have a '92 TC Signature Series. I am 5'4" and after adjusting the seat just right I have no problem seeing out. I was an S10 Blazer fanatic (really still dearly love my little Blazer but, due to our new arrival I was forced to get another vehicle with better accessibility with the car seat) and when the Lincoln was offered to us at one of those too good to pass up deals we bought it. At first I was hesitant about the size . Quite a jump in wheel base from the S10 to the Town Car. But after driving it for the last 2 years I really like the comfort and the room. Especially the gigantic trunk. I carry several pairs of skates like quads & inlines, a couple of scooters, and even got 2 trick bikes in there along with all the other sports equipment you can imagine and the stroller. Reminded me of those trick steamer trunks where they just keep pulling all these things out like a bottomless pit. It has 138,000+ and still going strong. I love my Lincoln Town Car.
Dear Pam: I've looked on the internet for a cd changer for my 94 TC. Nobody seems to have one for the stereos prior to 1995 and newer. My Lincoln dealer quoted me $250.00 installed! Check your dealer... it may be your best hope.
You could also purchase an aftermarket CD changer that will convert the sound into an FM frequency. All you do is tune your radio to a per determined channel not commonly used like 89.1. The changer will play the CD over the radio channel. It doesn't have the dynamic range sound that a regular changer does since it is being broadcasted over an FM station, but I have heard this type of changer play and it sounds really good!!
Personally, I'm going to purchase the original changer thru the dealer for simplicity sake and it also works off the radio controls rather than having to mount a small control box.
Please post your solution since I'm in the same boat as you. Thanks!
88 Town Car,Cartier with 289,000, original motor suddenly has a stalling problem when engine is at idle. Idles for a minute or two, then shakes slightly and quits. Starts right up again, then repeats. Cold or hot, doesn't seem to matter. Would that be the EGR thing or some other relay? Timing chain, water pump and distributor are original. Car runs very smooth otherwise. Also gas mileage decreased from 21 to 18mpg. Any help appreciated. Thanks!!
www.arnottindustries.com Replacement air shocks for $109.00 each. Coil springs ($199.00/pair) if you want to replace the air shocks. Somebody e-mail me with this company. I have not used them ...yet...but I thought everybody would like to know!! PLEASE let them know you found them here in edmunds town hall message group!
No! The problem was the in line vacuum filter to the intake manifold. Looks like a piece of gauze wrapped tightly enclosed by a screen. Clogged solid. Didn't know it was there. Runs fine again. Thanks
Is there anyway at all to program the keyless entry system without the original code. There is no sticker on the compter box or on the trunk hindge. the vehicle has been scoured front to back and no dice.
enables the option of Handling Package, often called Touring option. Signature also avails more color options. One advantage of the Cartier is the option of the "L" or stretch model. Kind of like the Vanden Plas Jaguar. The Executive is the least cost. Around here new Executives are advertised for $29,995. Just for fun, drive a 98 Mark VIII before buying the Towncar.
I'm thinking about buying a TC that used to be part of somebody's fleet and it has 256,000 miles on it, but I beleive if it was part of a fleet, the guy should have taken care of it fairly well. ANy advice?
I am looking at buying a 1991 TC, I know that this is the first year of the 4.6 L engine. Does anyone out there know if this is a reliable year, or should I keep looking for a 1993.
The brake paddle sometimes stayes down an inch puting some brake on. Would this be a loose return spring or a faulty Mastercylinder? any advice would be great! Adri
I have a 1991 towncar and some of the lenses for the lights are broken and I want to replace them. Does anyone know a site on the internet that will supply parts.
If you click on my TownHall name, and view my bio, you will see that I have only posted on the BMW 3 series board...WAIT!!!...Please hear me out!!!....
Here is our situation: 98 Volvo, 00 Expedition, 01 BMW. Wife would like to swap out the Volvo for a new TC. I say she is crazy, but she loves the quiet, smooth ride, big trunk, doesn't care for the SUV, etc...
I say she is crazy b/c outside of limo drivers, I don't see many people/women in their mid-30's driving around in these things...seems like an "Older persons vehicle"...am I right/wrong? stereotyping? ...do I have the wrong perception? Everyones thoughts are appreciated!
Should we choose to go the TC route, how much can we expect to pay (ballpark)? On Edmunds, I see numerous variations (ie Signature, etc) I there a "base" model TC? Are they difficult to drive / park / maneuver?
I know all of these questions would be answered via a test drive, but I have found these boards to be very informative, and would love y'alls first-hand knowledge / experiences, etc.
As far as being hard to drive/park, that'll last for a week or two, then it becomes like second nature. You get used to the idea of maneuvering a large car and it doesn't bother you. Yes, the Town Car is often considered an "old person's car," but I always say drive something because you like it, and don't worry what other people say. My first car was an old Grand Marquis, and mine was probably the only one in the student parking lot where I went to high school, but I didn't care. You can't please the whole world, so just get what makes you (or in this case, your wife), happy, and don't let the stereotypes bother you. Good luck whatever you decide to get.
Your wife may actually have a great idea that could save you some cash and improve your comfort.
If you use your Expedition to pull a mid-size boat or camper you may want to consider getting a Town Car with the handling and towing packages. This vehicle could replace your Expedition and Volvo. Not a bad deal in my book. You may want to put this purchase off for a while because Ford in planning on putting a DOHC version of the 4.6 V8 (300hp) in the Town Car starting next model year. Tons of blue tire smoke should help shed some of the "old foggy" image. :-)
Now comes the hard part - telling your wife that she is right!
"With age comes wisdom and frequent urination." When a traveling salesman wanted to buy the Towncar, his 15 years younger third wife said no because it was an old persons car. She drives a Lexus 300 Coupe and he settled on a Chrysler LHS. Therein lies a little bit of insecurity, not wanting to be unlike the poseurs of the youth culture. We purchased our first TC when we were 47 and 47 is not old unless you're 25. The TC's have never been of speed and sport, but of very high quality, long lasting, quiet, comfortable,and easy to drive for long distances. Do you suppose the wisdom of old people enable them to discern the value of the TC?
I've recently started looking to buy some quality used car for my father . After the months of search I set my eyes on a 1991 Lincoln Town Car (Signature series ) with around 63 000 miles on it . It seems like an extremely sharp and well maintained car . It's fully loaded and it comes with a new 4.6L overhead cam engine . Car runs and handles on the road really well , but I noticed one thing , when the air conditioning is turned on , the air condition compressor seems to be coming on quite frequently , and that starting noise doesn't go away till the air is not turned off . I would like to know if anyone had a similar problem , cause I really like the car but am unsure if it's a common thing or a big problem . Also it would help me to tell me if that model and year proved to be a good reliable car in your experience or not. Every opinion is really appreciated . THANK YOU in advance
More than likely, there is a leak in the air conditioning system. There is a low pressure switch in the system which shuts the compressor off when the pressure is low. If the air gets cool in the car when the compressor is running, that is a good indication that the compressor is still okay. But when the system leaks freon, it also leaks compressor oil. Have the leaks fixed and the air conditioning system should work fine. Replacing seals to stop the leaks may only cost a hundred or so. Replacing the compressor: $300.00 plus.
Hello , I'm back again , NWRAAA thank you a lot for the useful information , could you please explain me a bit more on how checking out if it's a leak or a compressor problem . Thank you again
Holy cow! Checking the stats on the TC, and I see it is 1.5 feet LONGER than the Ford Expedition SUV???!!!! Does this sound right? Length-wise, that would put the TC in the same league as a SUBURBAN! I don't think it will fit in my garage?!
There are two town cars, the regular and the L version. The L version has a wheelbase stretched about 6" from the regular version. However, I do think the regular Town Car is longer than the Expedition. However, it is lighter, by about 700lbs, and the ride is A LOT better.
What is the air suspension system for the Towncar? Is it just the back wheels,or does it effect all four wheels. I think my car needs some work because it bounces more than I think it should, some times if I hit a bump in the road the tail end breaks loose and moves out to the side a bit. I would like to know more about the system before going blindly to a dealer and telling them to "fix" it.
the air suspension system was turned "OFF". It may be that the mechanic "forgot" to turn it back "ON". The switch is in the trunk area, perhaps on the left side. When posting a question it is helpful to know the year and mileage on the vehicle. Good Luck.
WBJ, what you are describing is the normal handling characteristics of live axle cars(Crown Vic, Marquis, Town Car, Caprice, Roadmaster, etc). You can reduce it a bit by going to stiffer shocks. If the mechanic forgot to turn on the air suspension, it is very noticeable. The car will look like someone is trying to make your car into a champion lowrider.
Everyone who reads this will laugh when he/she sees this but I'm a 15 year old kid who has loved Town Cars and Grand Marquis since I was old enough to walk. I also have a brochure for every model year since 1994 so I know the Town Car like I know my name.
Wbj: If your air suspension switch was off the "Check Air Suspension" light would be illuminated in your dashboard. Sometimes the air early air suspension systems (1984-92) require replacement parts when the vehicle has over 75,000 miles on it. If your car is not under warrenty I recommend first going to a service garage that you trust rather then a dealer to have it checked out. My Grandfather has a 2000 Town Car and unless you get lucky most dealers try to rob you blind. Hope this helps!
Hello, Could someone please tell me if the short cross-over or equilizer pipe between the left en right side (about halfway down the car) is really needed? It cracked and I'd just like to cut it out if possible. Thanks Adri
Has anyone added an electronic compass to their TC? I have a '97 TC/ES and am referring to the built-in option that uses the display between the engine temperature and fuel displays. I know that the dashboard display on my TC already is capable of this option. I have done a number of searches to see if the rest of the electronics are available and have not been successful. Besides, it's been almost a month since there has been a post on this board.
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1.) you went to the top of a 1 mile long hill with a 30% grade and;
2.) had a 2001 Town Car with each of the 4 foot wells cut out (so that you could put your feet on the highway) and;
3.) had four 300 lb. Wrestlers/bodybuilders sitting - one in each seat and;
4.) Put the car in neutral and
5.) from a dead stop... had the guys start to paddle their feet like the Flintstones....
just how fast would you get going by the bottom of the hill?
Oh yeah, the brakes would have been removed... so stopping would have to be accomplished by the Flintstone method.
(I'm sorry... I couldn't resist!)
Gas filter
Oil filter
H2O filter
How about a warzonectx filter?
I have found a factory cd control unit at a salvage yard for $125 but no factory changer. Could I buy an aftermarket unit and wire (plug) it into the the control? Thanks for any and all assistance.
Saw what I thought was very cool this afternoon while at work, a stretch limo of a triple black '79 Town Car. Wonder if it was made now...or then?
finis !!!!!!
I've looked on the internet for a cd changer for my 94 TC. Nobody seems to have one for the stereos prior to 1995 and newer. My Lincoln dealer quoted me $250.00 installed! Check your dealer... it may be your best hope.
You could also purchase an aftermarket CD changer that will convert the sound into an FM frequency. All you do is tune your radio to a per determined channel not commonly used like 89.1. The changer will play the CD over the radio channel. It doesn't have the dynamic range sound that a regular changer does since it is being broadcasted over an FM station, but I have heard this type of changer play and it sounds really good!!
Personally, I'm going to purchase the original changer thru the dealer for simplicity sake and it also works off the radio controls rather than having to mount a small control box.
Please post your solution since I'm in the same boat as you. Thanks!
Replacement air shocks for $109.00 each. Coil springs ($199.00/pair) if you want to replace the air shocks. Somebody e-mail me with this company. I have not used them ...yet...but I thought everybody would like to know!!
PLEASE let them know you found them here in edmunds town hall message group!
There is no sticker on the compter box or on the trunk hindge.
the vehicle has been scoured front to back and no dice.
Thanks
Thanks.
any advice would be great!
Adri
Here is our situation: 98 Volvo, 00 Expedition, 01 BMW. Wife would like to swap out the Volvo for a new TC. I say she is crazy, but she loves the quiet, smooth ride, big trunk, doesn't care for the SUV, etc...
I say she is crazy b/c outside of limo drivers, I don't see many people/women in their mid-30's driving around in these things...seems like an "Older persons vehicle"...am I right/wrong? stereotyping? ...do I have the wrong perception? Everyones thoughts are appreciated!
Should we choose to go the TC route, how much can we expect to pay (ballpark)? On Edmunds, I see numerous variations (ie Signature, etc) I there a "base" model TC? Are they difficult to drive / park / maneuver?
I know all of these questions would be answered via a test drive, but I have found these boards to be very informative, and would love y'alls first-hand knowledge / experiences, etc.
Thanks!!!!
If you use your Expedition to pull a mid-size boat or camper you may want to consider getting a Town Car with the handling and towing packages. This vehicle could replace your Expedition and Volvo. Not a bad deal in my book. You may want to put this purchase off for a while because Ford in planning on putting a DOHC version of the 4.6 V8 (300hp) in the Town Car starting next model year. Tons of blue tire smoke should help shed some of the "old foggy" image. :-)
Now comes the hard part - telling your wife that she is right!
We purchased our first TC when we were 47 and 47 is not old unless you're 25. The TC's have never been of speed and sport, but of very high quality, long lasting, quiet, comfortable,and easy to drive for long distances. Do you suppose the wisdom of old people enable them to discern the value of the TC?
Every opinion is really appreciated .
THANK YOU in advance
Thank you again
Question:Are all the TC models the same length?
Expedition. However, it is lighter, by about 700lbs, and the ride is A LOT better.
Wbj: If your air suspension switch was off the "Check Air Suspension" light would be illuminated in your dashboard. Sometimes the air early air suspension systems (1984-92) require replacement parts when the vehicle has over 75,000 miles on it. If your car is not under warrenty I recommend first going to a service garage that you trust rather then a dealer to have it checked out. My Grandfather has a 2000 Town Car and unless you get lucky most dealers try to rob you blind. Hope this helps!
Thanks
Adri