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I'm looking at trading in January for a 2000 LHS in "blue steel". If your car has a sunroof, I'd be interested in your opioion of the amount of wind noise when its closed. Also, let us know how if you're satisfied with the ride, miles per gallon, etc.
Congrats on the new car
Rob
Luxury High Standard.
Don't know if that's the case, but it seems to make more sense.
Paul
The LHS rides better than any other car I've ever owned, and though we did (finally) experience some of that "road noise" that supposedly plagues the LHS, it did not detract from the driving experience.
The 3.5 Liter V-6 performed well, providing me with plenty of acceleration for passing. The car handled well, though I must admit that I-10 in Florida doesn't provide much of a challenge (the road is mostly straight and flat).
All in all, I am still well satisfied with the LHS, though I am finding it difficult to properly maintain the paint. I have already found one place where the paint has chipped, and there are several (very small) places where bugs and road grime has spoiled the Stone White color, in spite of my best efforts to keep it clean. A new coat of wax will be my weekend project.
http://www2.chryslercars.com/
- Overall Ownership Experience: Grade B+. So far, so good. I'm a veteran Toyota owner so my expections in a vehicle are fairly high, and as a result, there have been a few quality lapses that I've found that wouldn't pass muster in any Toyota - but so far, no problems. This is the first new American car I've owned in 10 years and I can say the improvement in overall quality is quite noticeable.
- Styling: A+. Why Chrysler doesn't market this car's styling is beyond me - its absolutely gorgeous. In fact, it seems Chrysler lacks a marketing plan for this car at all - surprising given the very effective 300M historical campaign. Jurgen/Bob, roll out the 97 experimental Chrysler LHS concept car side-by-side with the current car - let the car's styling speak for itself.
- Overall quality: C+. Again, my frame of reference is a Toyota. For those that haven't read the Dec 98 road test of the LHS in Car and Driver - I found that very accurate - many of the small quality detractors they found showed up in my car too. First, all the things I've found were "beneath the service" - example - look under the rear fender wells - if your car is like mine you'll see a large amount of casting flash around the inner edges - either my car's unique or the manufacturing process doesn't even take the time to file them off - cheap and not something expected in a $30K car. Poke around the inside and see if the headliner doesn't meet up in the passenger side rear - leaving the rear window heating elements exposed. Again, small things that aren't overtly obvious but raise questions about other things "you can't see". I may be a little too critical here but can't get around fact that these things wouldn't be found on a $14K Corolla.
- Engine: A. Great power, especialy in the upper RPM ranges. Would like a little more low end torque but its more than adequate. Nice exhaust note - deep bass rumble.
- Transmission: C. Not near as smooth shifting as a Toyota or GM auto. Mine has the problem reported in this forum before - slight hesitation when you get on the gas after slowing -like at a "Yield" sign. Not a big problem, just detracts from the "refinement" of the car.
- Mileage: A. Took my engine about 15K to really loosen up but now get 19.3 in the city and 31 on the highway - great for such a large car.
- Interior: A. Amazing amount of room - I'm 6'6" and can sit in the back seat even with the front seat adjusted all the way back. White gauges are unique and very attractive. Leather is of very good quality. I have the base stereo and its more than adequate. Only turnoff for me were the floor mats - why Chrysler put such cheap mats in a $30K car is beyond me.
- Ride: A+. Superb - very supple yet not sloppy - more "Jaguar" than any other American car I've driven. Note the Dec 98 C&D article which compared LHS and 300M handling - the LHS turned a higher number on the skidpad than the base suspension 300M.
Hope this helps those of you pondering an LHS. Please don't take my comments above too harshly, but as folks in this topic did for me last summer, wanted to give an objective, "non-sugar coated" opinion. I'm a big fan of this car (and the 300M) - they're by far the best sedans made by an American (guess I should say joint German-American) car company today. Good luck to all of you choosing an LHS.
165.
Ultimately, my decision in favor of the LHS was made due to:
-The LHS has a larger trunk.
-The LHS has more room for the rear passengers.
-The AutoStick feature on the 300M seemed "gimmicky."
-The LHS had better incentives (i.e., it cost less).
-The Performance Handling Group for the 300M would not provide a measurable advantage because I live in Florida (where the roads are mostly straight and flat).
-The LHS is cheaper to insure (I think).
I hope this helps!
I prefer the styling of the 300M and the split folding rear seat was also a selling point.
Great car, no problems at 4100 miles. I bought the 300 at invoice with 0% financing, no other incentives at the time I purchased. I like the Autostick, but wasn't really a factor in the buying decision.
Unfortunately, while a beautiful design, I think the LHS looks too much like the Concorde which may be hurting its sales. 300M is much more distinctive.....
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
They are both nice cars and I think it comes down to personal choice. We drove the Intrepid, Concorde, LHS and 300 before she decided on the 300.
I'm well aware that it's a matter of personal preference whether to buy extra security or not for my new purchase. However, I only average about 9,000 miles a month and I'm really curious what others may think about the additional expense of added warranties.
I'm well aware that it's a matter of personal preference whether to buy extra security or not for my new purchase. However, I only average about 9,000 miles a month and I'm really curious what others may think about the additional expense of added warranties.
http://www.servicecontracts.chrysler.com/fs_service_contracts.html
I've had several extended warranties, lost a few bucks on one, broke even on another (paid about what I collected in covered repairs), and saved about $9000 on a new engine covered by the third. I would not buy anything other than an OEM extended warranty, but you'll get an argument on both sides of that issue. There are Chrysler dealers with Net sites that sell warranties for 75% of list.
Seeing that Chryslers extended warranties are quoted as MSRP I'm wondering if that price is negotiable. Well, it doesn't hurt to make a few phone calls. I'll check and see.
Question:
What does LHS stand for?
What does DC call their road side assistance?
How do you pronounce Daimler Chrysler in German?
Thanks in advance.
IF you had a MAC, it would be very easy. All you would have to do is find a pic of the car you want, copy it and open the appearance menu, click on screen and paste it there. Voila- Chrysler screen!
fastdriver
I showed it to the service manager, of my dealer.he answered me,we have to wait more ,because Chrysler will not change it now.
So 3 months later,I was back to the dealer,with two little holes already on my muffler,besides an ongoing noise in the rear suspension.
The dealer called me back to tell me Chrysler refused to give a Warranty,on the muffler,and the rear struts!!
So I called Chrysler,and after talking with 4 different people,they finally agreed to replace those parts,this was three weeks ago.When I picked up my car after one week in the shop I got a new muffler,and just ONE strut replaced,I asked why,they said they made a mistake and just ordered ONE strut.
I drove the car 10 miles and the noise was still there,the car is back at the dealer,(already two weeks),and they can´t find the problem,they don´t know where the noise is coming from.
I talked to Chrysler,and they said,Sir. you have to let us work with your car,when we will have something we will call you,I asked at least for a loaner,NOP!,if you want they said to me you can sue us.
What a Company?,is Chrysler a 5 star Company?
How can they ask the dealers to be a 5 star dealer?,if the Company is junk!!
What is for them CUSTOMER ONE????
Why, if Chrysler is such a "junk" company are you wanting to buy a 2001 Cirrus and why is your dream car a Prowler? Do you believe that the rust problems are limited to the your Intrepid and my LHS? Has anyone else out there had rust problems with their Chrysler products?
I have to wait now and see how all this will end,and then I´ll see what to do,today I got another call from the dealer telling me he is going to change the struts again,and offered me the best attention to my car.
from SW Florida to Arizona. While most of our
driving was on interstates, we did take alot of state roads while visiting Carlsbad Caverns,
the Grand Canyon, Petrified Forest, Hoover Dam and Las Vegas, Etc. The Lhs performed well under all conditions and not once did we feel the engine or transmission lacked in performance.
We used 89 Octane gas and averaged 25.5 MPG for the entire trip with speeds in excess of 70MPH where permitted, in fact, NM and AZ allow 75 MPH. In one stetch from Gallup, NM to Wichita Falls,Tx we averaged 30.3MPH. The cruise control was flawless whether climbing or descending steep hills.
The car tracked well, even
in 30 to 35 mph cross winds and 18 wheelers never bothered it. We felt no need for a sport suspension as in the 300.
The climate control is the best we ever had, just set the desired temp and forget it, whether it was 18 degrees or 95 outside,
it maintained the desired temp. BUT, DC should add a filter to the system.
THe LHS is very roomy and comfortable, we traded in a Grand Marquis which is supposed to be a full sized car, there is no comparison in room, or handling.
We haven't experienced any
problems yet, but wish DC
would add:
Cornering lamps
Remote gas filler cap
Valet key
More padding on center console arm rest
And, since we live in Florida and put up with love bugs twice each year, please come up with an attractive deflector as opposed to a bra.
I guess Chrysler wants me in a Buick. I think I will look closely at my 1995 seat to see if it can be modified since it surely is out of warranty.
WHY weren't they going to pay???? Look in the owner's manual and call Nissan to let them know about the problem with the car and the dealer!!! Then, if you get NO satisfaction, go to http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov and REPORT this safety problem to them either on-line or by phone ASAP before you and your car catches on fire!
BTW- WHY did you post a Nissan question in a Chrysler topic??
fastdriver
Does anyone have any more information on this?
But you can always call NHTSA,and ask them if it is true.
Hey, planes, trains, busses and many other vehicles don't have airbags. Do you avoid them?
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
http://www.hwysafety.org/news_releases/1999/pr120899.htm
You can try this site. While it's Chrysler's media site, if you write to enough people in this list, SOMEONE will see to it that your message gets sent to somebody who might be able to address your concerns. Don't hold your breath, but someone just might give you a call. It worked for me.
http://www.media.daimlerchrysler.com/contact/prcontacts_e.htm#U.S. Contacts
Good luck.
fastdriver
I'll try to paste it again- http://www.media.daimlerchrysler.com/contact/prcontacts_e.htm#U.S. Contacts
fastdriver