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- Mark
I am looking to buy a 2004 S4 sedan and I want to know what are the price that people in this board have been paying for this car. Is it possible to get this car for close to invoice? Any help would be appreciated.
I recently purchased a silver '04 S4 from Desert Audi here in Las Vegas. With options, the car is very similar to what you're looking for. I picked up my tag yesterday an noticed they now have a dolphin grey w/ black S4 on the lot. If you're interested, give Harvey Huffman (salesman I purchased from) a call. I had a decent buying experience and negotiated a price $500 less than MSRP, even though there was a $5000 market adjustment dealer add-on stcker on the windshield. I guess the better deal was probably due to the '05's coming out soon.
I do not know if the S4 is included in the 2005.5 model run.
Apparently, the changes are to aid in the metamorphasis from A4 current look to A4 2006 look which will, apparently, be more like the upcoming 2005 A6 (grill, etc.)
The rumor mill says the '06 A4 will be larger than the current version, probably, AND THIS IS SPECULATION, like the 2002 was slightly larger than the 2001 A4.
The S4, since it is a limited production car, may not be offered in a 2005.5 version -- ask a dealer, ask to see the 2005 order guide and also the 2005.5 pre announcement (2005.5 A4 is slated, so says my dealer for Feb 2005).
As for the 2005 model, one dealer I spoke with told me that it will have bi-xenon headlights. I haven't heard this anywhere else though. Can anyone who has seen the 2005 order sheet confirm this?
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- Mark
I would get it, lame as it is, again and again and again, even if they never upgraded to DVD -- which they have.
Any new Audi, excluding the A8's will TODAY have the same system I have in my 2003 allroad and my wife has in her 2003 TT coupe.
Between the tach and speedo there is an information screen about the size of a playing card. It is black and the screen can display text and arrows and crude circles and zig-zags.
The system, until the 2005 A6 and 2005.5 A4 arrive will be thus:
1. Press a button on your console and the center screen warns you not to enter nav data while driving
2. Select your destination
3. Select your street address or street + street intersection; or you can select special destinations like gas stations, ATM's or other special interest places, International Airport for example.
4. Select "fast" or "short" route and press go
System responds by giving you both verbal and arrow by arrow directions visually on the little playing card screen.
It is accurate 99.99% of the time to within 100' -- and it is, overall, able to find destinations (speaking personally for Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana and Pennsylvania) about 96% of the time. The voice commands are in a rather pleasant, business-like female voice. She never gets ticked at you when you disobey her "orders" she either recalculates the next best route option or "suggests" when possible that you make a U-turn and do what she told you to do originally.
There is a compass function in the nav screen, miles (or KM if you choose) to destination, time to destination (arrival time) and an hourglass function that tells you when the next action you have to take will occur. The name of the road you are on or will be expected to turn onto is displayed.
For all the crybabies (me included) that really wanted a 16x9 7" diagonal color moving map screen -- well, I can find no fault with the system in terms of its efficacy and contribution to safety -- and that is a biggie.
She (the Audi nav lady) never ceases to impress me, even in my home town (Cincinnati) -- just as I think I know what I am doing in my own backyard, she finds a better route and one that I've never tried before to get me to that new restaurant I've been dying to try.
One more neat function -- "traffic jam" -- push a pictobutton on the console that looks like a car pile up and the route is recalculated to get you out of a traffic jam (if there is a route that is).
You don't have to ask directions, you don't have to read a map and overall you seem to be able to pay more attention to the driving rather than the navigating, which, as I say is a HUGE contribution to safety -- it has gone from "cool toy" to mandatory feature as far as I'm concerned.
It needs to be DVD based, Audi has done this and all will have it by second Q '05. It needs the sexy color moving map screen -- not because it is in any way better, but because the current screen lacks sizzle. There is no other reason to have a 7" diagonal color screen showing you a mapquest like image -- you are supposed to be driving not staring at a map, after all. But, I, too, wish for the "big" screen just for show and my wish, like others, has been granted by Audi.
This and parktronic have moved from "show off toys" to valuable features.
FWIW, that's my story and I'm. . . .
dealer in South Jersey that, due to the larger than expected demand for 2005 A6's in Germany/Europe (Audi's main markets), (A) deliveries of U.S. spec. A6's would be delayed a bit to late 2004/early 2005 (for the 4.2 V8's) and (B) perhaps more importantly,
PRODUCTION OF 2005 S4's WAS BEING CUT BACK BECAUSE
THEIR 4.2 ENGINES WERE BEING DIVERTED TO A6 4.2 CARS.
This morning, there were several posts (under the same title as this one) on another Audi enthusiast web site suggesting that Audi dealers we no longer taking orders for the current version of 2005 S4's in anticipation of the "new face" 2005.5 S4 being produced in the near future.
Anything anyone can learn about the truth (or falsity) of this "rumor" would be appreciated.
We will have the car inspected, but any thoughts would be great.
Thanks
The 2 disadvantages is that it does drink gas, and it will become very expensive to keep outside of the Audi warranty.
My car is in the shop for an oil leak. it turns out that it is from one of the Turbos. Audi recommends that both be changed and the engine has to be lifted out to do this. I've been waiting a week already! I would never be able to afford this if it wasn't covered. The mechanic says that these 2.7T engines are now starting to come in with problems...mainly to do with the pressure of the turbos causing the seals to leak. Did I mention it has taken them 3 times to find this leak?
I love the car, and the smile it puts on my face when i touch the gas pedal but in a few months it will be out of warranty and i am sure I'll have to dump it! Be very careful who you buy this car from. The warranty lasts for 50,000 miles. Then you are on your own
Beyond 50,000 miles, like all European cars, this will be "breathtakingly expensive" to repair.
Get the Audi 100K warranty.
Finally, but this is NOT an Audi issue so much, the thing eats tires -- especially the UHP and Max performance Summer Only tires that are standard equipment.
The car is an absolute blast to drive.
I can't comment on the gas milage -- I suspect that your milage will be based on your right foot.
Did you all see the 2005 S4 lease specials $499 a month about 4K down 42month/10000 mile.
this a good deal, or is it still beter to finance?
1) I will be driving the car in NJ winters. Besides putting snow tires on the car, do you think it can be safe to drive in the snow as well as be reliable in the snow?
2) I will be putting approx. 20k miles a year on the car. Besides changing the oil, anything I should be aware of?
3) I owned an Audi in the past, many years ago. I have to say I was not happy with the reliability. How is the reliability of the current line?
4) Would you buy an extended warranty for the S4?
5) Do you have a dealer you recommend to purchase from? I live in Northern NJ - Paul Miller & Jack Daniels but I would travel, within reason, for a good deal.
6) Would appreciate any info anyone could give so I can make a comfortable decision.
Thanks to all.
The lease deal is pretty incredible and if you haven't done it already, you should do it. I am currently considering this deal, even tho I already have a Porsche and a BMW.
If you didn't know, the lease deal was extended to 1/3/05, so you have a month to mull it over. A friend of mine leased a S4 a few years ago and paid about $6K down, $600/mo. for a 3 year lease. This deal is so much better and for a significantly better car.
With such a great lease deal, it makes the lease vs buy issue a much lesser issue. I am a CPA, so I get this question ten times a year. Unless you plan to keep the car for at least 7 years or plan to drive the car for more than 12K miles a year, I wouldn't even consider buying it.
Good Luck,
Harry
Only nit is that the cupholders are nearly useless [guessing Germans don't drink coffee on their morning commute]
Highly recommended!
hope this is helpful
peace
Do I have to sell my car or move?!? Any solutions? 2001 model w/37,000 miles in great shape....
Audibon
There's a $50 deductable on an Audi dealer certified car. Seconday warranty companies may be a lot more and it can be a hassle to figure out what they will actually pay for when your car breaks.
Also, if a car has been previously certifed by Audi, it follows the car and can be transferrred to a new owner for a one time $150 transfer fee.
Audi's certification program is very extensive and it covers a majority of things that are most expensive to replace. Just stop by any local Audi dealer and ask them for a cretified warranty book and you can get an idea of what's covered.
Also, warranty's from seconday companies other than authorized Audi dealers get more expensive the older and more miles that are on a car. If you're looking at cars 3-4 years old with almost 50k miles, these cars are almost out of warranty and you can easliy be looking at $4000 plus on a German car to get extended warranties. You're better off gettting a CPO car from an Audi dealer. Or getting lucky and finind a used Audi that's already been certified and getting the 6/100k warranty for only a $150 transfer fee.
I'd be coming out of a 1999 Jaguar XJR, 370 h.p., Eaton Supercharger....don't really see going backwards in terms of performance even though I'm in the NorthEast (translated as crummy weather). The Jag was a mistake living here in case you're wondering.
Given my reality (would never spend the moola or wait on the RS4, at that price point would jump to Porsche C4S):
I'm about to make a final decision to purchase a brand "new face" 2005.5 S4. It can be delivered to me by first week in April. I've received a "special" factory release given some specifics about my "situation". This could all be bull, but I believe I'd be one of the first consumers in North America to receive the new 2005.5 S4. The first? yeah right, no way to know.
It's fully loaded, premium, xm satellite radio, nav., carbon fiber, essentially everything one can option in. Dolphin Grey, black interior. Has the nappa leather probably part of one of the above packages. Sunroof. I understand the nav is now DVD made in Japan!!!!!! with in dash 6 disc changer, 2 SD card slots for mpg play....seen this in the 2005.5 A4 sitting in their dealership!
It's going to total after tax in the neighborhood of $58,xxx.
Thoughts?
Few questions:
1. are they blowing smoke about me being the first to get this car?
2. any way for a discount of any kind? I personally doubt it, they don't seem at all to be chasing me for the sale and claim to have had to go through some hoops to get me this car released as it's sitting at port and the factory wouldn't release it until I came along. AGain, that's just what I've been told.
3. how reliable is this 4.2, V8? I know it's a tried engine in the A8, et al. Is it reasonably free of defects? Some maintenance posts scare the bajeezes out of me.....tempted to go Japanese all the way!
Thoughts?
I'm at davidw(insert the at sign here)theworld.com
for any private emails that wouldn't be appropriate for a post..hope that doesn't break any rules, didn't see it mentioned in the rules section.
Other options if this implodes:
Acura RL, not even close to the power/performance, just a solid sedan with whiz/bang and reliability as well as gas mileage appeal. And AWD.
Lexus GS300. Big unknown, probably underpowered, not thrilled with inside of car or pathetic trunk for that matter. Also AWD.
Or could always bail out to the sport ute crowd and mostly forget about performance......that would really get me researching again.
1. I personally think they are blowing smoke, a dealer here in No Cali told me no problem getting me a 05.5 w/DVD nav but wasn't willing to cut any deals
2. That sounds odd, "The factory wouldn't release it" well didn't they already release it if it's sitting in port???
3. Are you buying or leasing? If leasing and you keep it under the warranty period which I believe is 4/48 this includes your routine maintenance costs.
IMHO I think the RL is much too bland and too closely resembles an accord, of course this is strictly my opinion.
Have you looked at the M35x? I guessing you're only looking at AWD?
The RL isn't adrenaline pumping that's for sure. I'm 35, it's probably not my car. I'm between a rock and hardplace with Boston weather. Need the function of AWD, but like performance in summer. I could do the sport ute thing, but performance/luxury only found in a few gas hogs, not that the S4 will be kind to me on that front either.
I'll be purchasing, lease deals are horrible for new Audi's.
Thanks for comments.
Thanks!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
The 5 spoke style wheels are available as an option. They are the exact same wheels as the S line wheels on the A6 4.2 Quattro.
car 1- 2000 silver S4, manual, sports package 46,000 miles no warranty, seems like the guy hasnt replaced anything major.
car 2- 2000 dark blue s4, auto, standard package, 70,000 miles, he purchased from audi and has until august with his warranty. He has all maintenance records and takes it to audi for everything.
Which is the better deal? They both are selling for approx. $16k
Thanks
Never drove the Acura - I have an old 90 Legend coupe, and the new cars just don't do it for me.
On to an Audi A6. Will someone please tell the Germans to stop putting the stupid iDrive, Command System, joystick-wheel-button pushing craziness in their cars? It just ruined the car for me. I actually did not even consider the BMW 5 series for that reason. Beautiful car, easy handling, nice interior - but did I mention the spin-a-wheel malarky?
As a lark I drove the S4. Perfect car for me. The seats are even more comfortable than the BMW 3series in Sport. The interior rivals the MB, even at S levels - the silk leather feels better (hope it holds up). I don't have to worry about back-seat passengers so the tight rear seating doesn't bother me - the car actually doesn't feel any bigger than the convertible I'm leaving behind.
On top of it all, because of a different car "connection", I'm stepping into a silver/ebony 2005.5 S4 with premium, Sirius, carbon fibre, heated seats, wheel upgrade for less than $52K this week!
I got lease quote of about $3700 down with 15K miles and payment of about $575-585 with tax for 39 months. It may have been 36 months but I remember 39.
My brother in law has the tip and loves it. I test drove 6 speed manual today and loved it!!! The clutch action is so light. When I came back to my car (Mini Cooper S) the clutch felt heavy!
TO XJRJAG:
They had plenty of new 2005.5 A4 & S4.
Hear on Audiworld that after May 7th there will be a new lease offer on the new S4.
Not sure if it's true but might be worth waiting to see.
Dealers I spoke to are trying to twist my arm to buy before end of April.
I dont care about new body style but I loved the arctic S4 with manual I drove. Wish it didn't have the wood trim.