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Pontiac Grand Prix - 2000-2005
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Is this slated for production? If they are displaying it in the factories, I'll assume it's "doable". When is it out? Pricing?
Thanks!
Let's wait and see...interesting times ahead.
If this baby makes it to the 2003 model year production, it would be the most powerful FWD W-body ever made since the 3800 Series II Supercharged Buick Regal GS and Pontiac GP GTP models. Expect the Montecarlo SS to follow this direction as well.
http://www.speedster.opel.com/
It has been confirmed by Motor Trend, that this is the final replacement for the longed lived F-Body Firebird/TransAm and will be on sale on Pontiac dealers by 2003.
I am open to any suggestions.
bhowellga@aol.com
tsjay
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1390023&a=10565856
Thanks for your visit in Wrangler IV. It's always a real treat to hear from you!
Don't be holding your breath when it comes to my getting tired of my granddog, Ross Allen Johnson. He's my best friend in the whole world!
I try to take him with me everywhere I go, if there's any possible way that I can. If it were up to me, I just wouldn't even go places where he can't go too. (But, I do have to work for a living.)
Thanks for your compliment. I think he's beautiful too. He is also the sweetest, gentlest soul God ever put on the face of this earth. He has a ton of personality too, more than a lot of PEOPLE!
Oh well, I shouldn't have gotten started about Ross. I could go on all day. His Mom (my daughter) got him at the dog pound five years ago when he was only eight weeks old. Old Grandpa has loved him ever since the day he was brought home. The daughter is married and gone, but Grandpa has custody of Ross. I would have fought her for him, if she hadn't voluntarily left him with me.
tsjay
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1390023&a=10575387
tsjay
I just wanted to wish all of my old Grand Prix buddies a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Come on over to Wrangler IV once in a while and holler at me.
I am still lovin' my Thelma Jane. I hope my old Grand Prix gets a good home. She was a great car!
tsjay
300M is a great car but is not really a traffic fighter.
Does anyone own a 2001 GTP, that can offer the same insight, or even more, than ruski? (no offense, ruski, just looking for like model year info)
I am still in love with Thelma Jane, but it would have been nice to keep the GP GT too. I don't know if they have sold her yet, but I hope she gets a good home.
Check out my two web pages. One is for the Jeep and one is for my granddog.
http://members.aol.com/tjoh298765/thelma.html
http://members.aol.com/tjoh298765/raj.html
Post or email me to let me know what you think.
Everyone is welcome to take a look at these. They are the first two web pages I've ever built, and they are very simple, but I think you will like them.
tsjay
I had something I was proud of and excited about and wanted to share it with my friends in here. I was an active participant in here until recently, and had some friends here. I have no other means of communicating with these folks, since many of them don't make their email addresses public.
But, if I can post off topic, then everyone else can too, and if that happens, we would have a real mess here. You would have to wade through 50 posts to find one on topic!
So, I apologize.
tsjay
A few months ago, due to a sudden, unfortunate death in the family, I inherited a 300M. Love it, too. Not needing both cars, I put both up for sale. GTP sold first, so I kept the 300M.
Although I didn't own the '00 GTP for about a year, I found it to be as good as anything I had driven reliability wise. The drivetrain is a hoot. I personally believe that GM makes some of the best auto trannys in the world...smooth and reliable. In the cold, there were some minor squeaks, but above 40 degrees, these went away.
Bose stereo has 8 speakers. Stereo was very good, but not great. I'm comparing it to the Infinity in the 300M (which has 360 watts and 11 speakers).
As far as build quality, all my panels lined up correctly (on both GTPs). Paint was lustrous (look here to see the finish)http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1158985&a=8520256
I never had to take either GTP back to the dealer for anything other than tire rotations, oil changes and I replaced the air filter.
Gas mileage was exceptional on the highway. In town driving would kill MPG, though.
Seats were firm, but comfy. Loved the HUD. Ergonomics were very good. Some complained about the "hard plastic" look of the interior. I never had a problem with the look, though. Everything is brightly lit and easy to operate.
This was one fast car, too.
That brings us to the styling. I still find myself looking at other GPs on the road and admiring the way it looks. IMHO, it's one of the best looking mid-size sedans (or coupes) in production.
I wouldn't hesitate buying another if I was in the market. Maybe 2004 when they are supposed to bring out a new platform.
I was just going to tell you that my 2000 Grand Prix GT sedan was a PERFECT car during the short time I had it. I only owned it seven months, but I put 19,9XX miles on it before trading it for the Jeep. It never once went back to the dealer for ANY kind of problem!
I would buy another one in a heartbeat! I would have kept that one if I could have done so and still bought a new Jeep.
tsjay
Tsjay, I owe you an apology. I should not have been so rude to you in trying to get my point across. You have every right to post pictures of (most) any thing you like here. I was simply aggravated at, like you said "wading through...posts". No offense intended, and you really do have a nice Jeep.
Anyway, no hard feelings, OK?
I think you would do well to buy a GTP! I sure didn't have a thing in the world against that GT of mine. I just wanted a Jeep REAL bad.
Good luck with whatever you buy. Be sure and let us know what you end up with. And post some pics!
tsjay
Does your above post mean that you have made up your mind to get the GTP? If so, that's great! I don't think you will be sorry.
It may be standard on the GTP, but, if not, you really ought to consider getting the automatic dual temperature climate control. I had that in my GT, and it was GREAT! You NEVER adjust ANYTHING, once you've set the temperatures you want for driver and passenger. That system is smart enough to switch itself from heat to air conditioning as needed, and it controls the fan speed as needed. If the engine is cold, and you need heat, it keeps the fan on low speed until the engine warms up. That way it's not blowing cold air on you. The dual temperature feature didn't mean much to me, because I was almost always the only person in the car, but the automatic control of the cabin temperature was really nice! If you have the wife with you, and if she is like most women, she will want her side to be about 90 degrees. I liked to keep the temperature on both sides at about 70 degrees in my car, but the few times I had my wife with me, she was able to keep her side warm enough to make her happy, and my side stayed nice and cool.
(Now, ladies, don't get mad at me. You may not be like that yourself, but most women really like the temperature higher than we guys do.)
I can help you a little on posting some pics when the time comes, jwoods4. Photopoint.com has a free service that keeps your pics on their web site and they give you a link to publish to news groups so that people can just click on the link and see your pics. That was what I used in some of the earlier posts for pics of the GP and the doggy. Since then, I built a web page for the new Jeep and one for Doggy, and if you would like, I can give you a little help in building one for your car. Well, maybe I can. I'm just a rookie at that myself.
Catch you later, pal.
tsjay
A couple of other things came to mind. I think the interior materials in the GP will wear well. I admit that I'm a bit anal when it comes to the care and maintenance of my vehicles. But, I never saw any evidence of any wear, let alone accelerated wear, in the GTP's interior. Seats were treated with leather care products twice/year which kept them soft and new looking.
The engine and trans are very easy to maintain and have been in GM's stable so long due to their bulletproof longevity and the seemlessness in which they work together. The trans and engine work well together in the GTP. Engine has a nice "snarl" to it, too. I believe there was one fellow that had some problems with his GTP trans (and he posted many, many times about it), but he bought the car used and I suspect it was abused before he got it.
As far as the dealer network, I've always felt that you can find both good and bad ones (no matter what car line they represent). I would do as much research about a dealer's service dept as I would about the price of the car (maybe more).
For a primer of a bunch of car care fanatics, go to the Maintenance and Repair topic here at Edmunds and take a gander at the "Zaino" thread.
There was never any evidence of any leakage. Even though the GTP went through some pretty nasty midwest monsoons, no water ever made it into the passenger compartment or the trunk. It was tight as a drum.
My wife has a Toyota Avalon. In comparing the paint and materials, I think the GP gave up nothing to her toyota. Matter of fact, I think the body panels on the GP were much more robust and the paint was thicker on the GP (based on the ease in which the Avalon's paint "chips" and the feel of the metal).
As you can probably tell, like Ruski, I also miss my GTP.
Let us know what you end up with.
Has anyone seen a sketch of the new models? Will they be RWD? Will they offer the 3.5L DOHC Shortstar from the current Intrigue? What about a Blown 3.5L?
But let me tell you the first time i mashed the throttle on our test drive of the gtp it was over for both my wife and i. the gtp met our criteriafor our new car. it had to have 4-doors be sporty and get good gas mileage. there were others but they were more for me. the gt would have been fine but my wife had to have the "p" or nothing.
say what you will this car is hot and we got ours with sunroof leather changer lojack and the polished 5-spokes for just under $25,500 with 3.9% financing which was $4000 less than the tl and the same price as the accord. we got our moneys worth and then some, this is the sportiest 4-door for under 30K hands down and we wouldn't trade it for anything.
One source was adament that there would be no blown engine. As for RWD/FWD....nobody knows for sure.
Though don't expect too much, as I doubt GM will price the car much higher than it is now.
I test drove half a dozen cars before getting the GT, and none of them offered the same combination of features, looks, driveability and price. The style and color even turn people's heads, something none of my cars have ever done. And I love the smell of the leather interior.
I think Pontic hit a home run this time.
Thanks!
I say chrysler should style a car, GM should supply and engine and tranny and honda should build it. We'd all be happy then.
I got used to the HUD so much that I never even looked at the regular speedo. I knew my exact speed at any given time.
Also it is a perfect combination of HUD and steering wheel mounted stereo controls - you see radio stations and CD tracks in the HUD and you don't have to take your hands off the steering wheel to change them.
as far as build quality goes our overhead console is cracked and one of the window moldings doesn't line up something we will fix shortly at the dealer.
this is too all the gtp owners. I have a question is it me or does this car really like being on the freeway. around town it just seems want to go at full throttle and when i get it on the freeway it just purrs at 70-80 and gets almost double the gas mileage. i don't know but thats how ours feels. oh yeah and by the way to get the gtp to handle even better just step up to V or Z rated tires it makes a lot of difference.