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I had the car modified by Stillen. Check out my website for more pics and info on Q45's.
www.geocities.com/ericsanmiguel/infiniti
steveman: I have an older max and I had a bad injector. The mechanic recommeded replacing all of them even though only one was bad. His reasoning was that they (the injectors) are the same age, seen the same fuel, and were exposed to the same driving conditions. So, if one is bad, they will ALL die eventually with 10,000 miles.
I don't know why your having problems with them at 65K miles. The ones in my max lasted until 157K miles.
My '90 Maxima has over 300k on the original injectors with no problems (yet). But my buddy had to replace one on his '90 Max at around 100k. We only did the one; and 50k later when he traded up, the others were still fine.
We both always used name-brand fuel, and at least Mid-grade.
The parts are expensive, but the procedure is simple. Don't know if this helps.
I really wrestled with whether or not to replace one or all. In the end I replaced them all because I plan on keeping my '92 at least until it hits 210,000 miles (maybe more).
Thanks again for the input.
Doug
Doug
The main thing is to have service records that show maintenance being done. Of course, the usual caveats apply as do with all cars, but a couple things with Q's are worth noting. Make sure the A/C is working properly, as the control module is expensive. Do not accept the explanation that "The car just needs a tuneup" if it is running rough. (Injectors and plug wires are $$$$'s.)
Check out the service records with a careful eye toward transmission info., making sure it has been regularly serviced. And lastly, think long and hard before you buy an active suspension model. The active susp. is a wonderful piece of engineering, but at this stage of a 92's life it could cost you almost as much as the car if it fails. (And not many shops would be qualified to repair it.) Hope this helps some. Just for reference, I sold my 93 a few weeks ago after owning it for 6 years. It had 85k miles on it, and not one item ever failed on the car. Not even a light bulb.....DB
Thanks, you could be saving me thousands of dollars not to mention shop time.
Doug
Yes, the "A" after Q45 designates the active suspension. Without going in to the resale topic too deeply, I'll just say that the prices are most affected by demand, and there just isn't a lot of demand for the Q. Of course, at last count I think I saw that Infiniti was down to around 147 dealers nationwide. It's pretty tough to sell cars when you can't "reach" a lot of potential buyers. But the effect of this marketing drawback is that (like you have discovered) buyers can buy a lot of car for the money with a used Q.
I also believe Infiniti made a gaffe with the front end styling on the early cars. Put a bra on it and forget about it. The rest of the car was well done....DB
PS And don't forget to replace the "platters" with BBS wheels!
Curt
people who are asking the price paid on new Qs, I
paid $40,764 excluding delivery fee ($399), taxes
and license. This was taking advantage of the
$5,000 dealer incentive that the dealer passed on. He did not pass on the dealer holdback. The list on this car was $51,120.
Overall I am very satisfied with my car and it
drives extremely well. However, I want to ask
about three minor problems and one question I have
on this car to see if any one else is experiencing
the same problems on their new Q's. I have noticed a shimmy in the steering wheel at about 50-60mph and again at 80-85mph. I have had it back to the dealer now twice. Each time they have said one of the tires was not quite balanced. However, I still have the problem and noticed it when I bought the car. At that time I signed and still have a "Special Conditions of Sale" form that indicates that if I am not satisfied I can swap out for another Q45. However, I am sure if I want to swap out for another one that it will be a major hassle
if it will be done at all. I now have about 1800
miles on the car
I also notice that at a certain speeds(40-50) I
see and feel the gear shift handle moving forward
and back slightly. I cannot feel anything in the
driver's seat, but if I am in the passenger
seat(which is not often) I feel a very very slight
lurching or vibrating. It stops when the speed
changes and the gearshift handle quits moving.
One other thing that I notice is that at about
40-45mph, if I am cruising along and take my foot
off the gas, as one would if the car in front of
you slowed down, the transmission does a very
noticeable, somewhat of a bump, downshift. The
dealer has said this is a downshift from overdrive, is nothing and occurs on all Qs.
Finally, I am 6'2", with long legs and have
realized that I just cannot get back far enough to
be comfortable in the seat. The car drove so great relative to what I was previously driving, I just didn't notice at the time I test drove it. Has anyone done anything to get the seat to go back further?
These problems may seem minor to many, but when I
buy a car with a list price of $51,000, I expect
perfection.
Finally, I found a dealership (Discover Infiniti in San Diego) with had several customers who ran into this problem. These guys were super helpful. Service at Infiniti varies greatly among individual dealerships. The problem is not with the tire balancing but with the tire itself.
Certain tire brands work better with certain cars due to many factors such as the rubber compunds, tread design, etc. I'm assuming you have the Bridgestone Potenzas. These tires need to be replaced with Michelins. In my case they were replaced with the Michelin Energy MXV4+. For the 17" wheels you may need to go with the Michelin Pilot XGT series. Check with the dealer.
The problem has been logged internally with Infiniti. My local dealership had to contact the factory rep to get the necessary authorization to replace the Bridgestones with Michelins.
When you approach you dealer again, mention this information and I'm sure you'll get results. I still notice a very slight amount of shimmying but much much less than before. And the tires handle much better than the Bridgestones.
Now I know why the ads say drive one and you'll understand. The steering is so precise! It grips the ground and I've been up on some switch backs in the Hollywood Hills. Yes, it's fast. And strong. This weekend I'm taking it down to San Diego and back - got it just in time to impress my college roommates at a wedding. I don't care what they think. I'm impressed.
Now, I want to take really good care of this car. Any tips? I called Infinity about it. They told me the car had the fuel injectors changed four years ago and they split the costs with the then current owner. Everything else in it's history seems great.
How often do I tune it, watch for belt wear, and does anyone know a good mechanic - God forbid, in LA other than the dealerships?
Doug
Since it's not a new car anymore, you'll need help and advise from other Q45 owners. If you haven't discovered it, you should be spending time frequently at the Yahoo Infiniti Owners Club:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/infinitiownersclub
You'll learn more about Q45's than you thought possible. It's one of the best online clubs I know of.
Doug
Based on my research seems like a pretty good deal--I estimate that he's giving me the car between $24K-$25K with 1.5K-2.5K on the warranty.
Any thoughts?
Try yahoo clasified, you ought to see lots of choices there.
Good luck.
I own a '91 Q with less than 75,000 miles. It has new tires, is exceptionally clean (it was my mother-in-laws) and runs great. If anyone wants a great car for less than $11,000, send me an e-mail. I'll deliver!
Would appreciate your input.
A used Q is going to hold better value than a brand new TL.
enjoy
Listed here at Edmunds are year model 1997 and 1997.5
Is one better than the other?
Why the mid-year release?
Thanks, Phil
The new Q45 which is on TheNewQ.com web site looks noticeably different than the 2002 Q45 which debuted at the New York Auto show. You can check it out at http://www.autoshowny.com.
At first glance the cars look roughly the same but close inspection reveals that the Q on the Infiniti web site has a smaller, more aggressive looking grill. Also, the front headlights are not pulled back as far as those on the car that debuted in New York. These are just a few of the subtle differences I noticed. I'm sure there are others. Any thoughts?
While there was a lot of information on TheNewQ website, I couldn't tell.
As far as the 97-97.5 Q45, The 97 was the new body style. It was released in March of 96. Mid-way through the model year, Infiniti made a couple of changes to the Q. The most notable change was the addition of side impact airbags. This is the tell tale difference between the 97, and 97.5 Q.
The 97-97.5 question had me stuck and I could not locate an explanation. Since my wife & I love the Q's and are now in a position to purchase I've started to do our "homework" on the preowned market.
Here's another one for you Steve (if you don't mind me asking)
Of the model years 97, 98 & 99, is one year model proving to be better? I realize that little "tweaks" were made each year and that the analog clock was put into the '99, but besides that is there anything major that has began to surface in these 3 model years?
Best Regards,
Phil
-valve covers beginning to leak
-replace front seal
-a/c compressor beginning to make a little noise
otherwise, says looks good. Any idea of cost to maintain this car? I feel 9900 should be fair, any suggestions...
If you can get it for $9900, I'd take it. Then I'd take the 2 grand, add another grand or two, and have all the work done ASAP. Do all the fluids (every one of them), filters, brakes, shocks, new Michelin Pilot XGTV4's, and go thru the car with a fine-tooth comb. Then you can laugh at all your buddies who spent $30K+ on their boring Lexus'.