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The amaretto interior on the A6 use to have a gray headliner, but it was later changed to black so it would match better.
Interesting. I might have to put the 4.2 back on my list. Brilliant Black w/ Amaretto was my color choice, but I didn't want the grey headliner. Not to mention that preliminary photos showed an Amaretto headliner. That's what I was wanting and expecting before I cancelled my order.
The cars were changed for March production. It's too late to order a 2005, but you can place an order for the 06's, which will arive in 3 months or so.
Some dealers may have squeaked in some orders for the new production dates in March, so you may find a few 2005 Amaretto cars w/ the black headliner on dealers lots.
I really love the creme beige interior that was available on the 2005 A6's. But it had a black dash and carpets and it didn't look good at all to me.
On the A8, the creme interior has the lighter clay colored dash and matching carpets and headliner. The creme interior looks incredible on the A8.
Needless to say, Audi discontinued the creme interior option on the 2005 A6. I wonder why.......
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Those lighter color interiors are prone to staining and bleeding of colors, and are a lot harder to keep clean. But it looks gorgeous when it's new.
I didn't like that dark blue color w/ the Vanilla. To me, it looks too much like purple when the light hits it. I thought it looked a bit on the tacky side.
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It was a $1000 upcharge, like the Amaretto.
I don't know how you went from complimenting the Audi's interior to bashing the M35, but, ok. It's all still pretty subjective, though. I like the matte finish on the Infiniti's wood, you don't; I don't find the buttons to be "glitzy", you do; I think MMI is a slightly less confounding system than iDrive, you probably love it; I think the doors on my M35x thunk just as solidly as the doors on your A6....and on and on.
Having shopped both cars, I can honestly say that I think the Audi is a fine looking car with a great interior. Past Audi reliability problems, acceleration that's a bit slower than I'd prefer, the lack of any "wow" factor (meaning that the car didn't "wow" me personally), and, of course, that I was immediately blown away by the M35x, all led me to get the Infiniti.
To each his own.
I would like to take a look at both cars 2 years down the road to see if Audi has actually improved reliability as rumored. In the meantime, I'll just continue to beat every A6 I encounter to the next stoplight.
That's why many lease (among other reasons), but even at that, residual values are hit pretty hard if the long-term reliability isn't there.
I bought my M35x because it "wow"-ed me...not because it particularly wowed anyone else. And like you said, it is more fun to drive.
Again; to each his (or their?) own.
Enjoy.
1. Cadillac "pick up trucks" (in Pearl White with gold "chrome")
2. Any Lexus -- excluding the one that is really just "a Camry that knows somebody" (the ES300, I think)
3. A Hummer H2 in that hideous yellow color (no offense).
4. A true sports car, not a Sears sports car. . . .
We have been granted a "pass" for our Audis, probably because my wife has always had a TT coupe that was probably mistaken for a mutant Porsche, which of course is always an acceptable sheen to show up in. You can even drive a Porsche to church, don't you know?
Now, at our country club, the Escalade's rule -- as do several Lexus SUV like vehicles. Again, they let me pass in my allroad but they pretend they don't see me. I always tell them "the Bentley's on the frizt, dahhhling. . . "
I think the 01's also accept Phat Box or Phat Noise or whatever they call it (it is the same as 300 CD's in your trunk). One of the guys in my company has a VW wth this in it and it is impressive -- huge library of tunes.
I have heard you mention it many times over the months.
IF need be to justify your expense by drag racing other brands to elevate your brand self esteem, then go for it!
I think too the Infiniti is a bit tacky and would gladly give up some Vroom Vroom boy racer time for the refinement. My 2.5 year old allroad has been flawless and it appears Audi is doing well!
Now thats not to say the Infiniti is not a nice car, it certainly is! If there exists a big price gap I might also give up some refinement for the wiz bang interior.
But lets not be so sensitive, this is a A6 forum and Im sure on the M forum y'all preaching to the choir and there are few "bashings" of other brands or prices paid.
IN this day and age of oil consumption I would really rather a Diesel, but then we got environment issues! I saw a new A6 2.4 recently in a central american country and in that world, its a big motor!
I suppose we all justify our expenses in various ways. I would contend that I am less justifying my expense in purchasing the Infiniti, as I am justifying not purchasing the Audi. It's not that the M35x has neck snapping acceleration, far from it. It's just that, for the money, and for my tastes, the A6 3.2 was too slow. Sorrrrrrry.
With very few other exceptions, I liked everything about the Audi. And, with even fewer exceptions, I love everything about the M35x. As I recall, the reason I participated in this forum (as opposed to merely reading the 1 or 2 posts that appear on a biweekly basis) was in response to bondguy's apparently random bashing of the M35x in a thread dedicated to discussing various Audi interior color combos(?).
But thank you for assuring me that I have a "nice car", that you regard as a "tacky...boy racer" with a "wiz bang interior."
To each his own. As bondguy said, that's why there's chocolate AND vanilla (and 34 additional flavors last time I checked.)
Sensitivity is not my strong suit, so apologies to anyone whose vehicle I may have inadvertantly or excessively bashed. The A6 is a superb vehicle.
I too own a membership to a golf club.
One can join a club, but I love when members say "WE BELONG!"
That is shallow!
To replace my allroad, Im thinking an infiniti Fx35 for a hundred and fifty LESS than what I am paying now! Its not an allroad, but not bad for 25% less and zero down!
I hate driving the IT car. I hate large SUVs, hate the escalades, Lexus' are just ugly! Owning a 15 year old mercedes is cool, leasing a new one is not. Cayannes are cool, Mercury aviators are not. Navagators are tacky bling! CTS caddy is cool. Lincolns are not.
I agree with rich, Mark, and JamesBondguy: I love my audi, I want another audi, but I won't pay much more than what I am paying now!
When all was said and done (and this happened with my wifes 2003 TT when she went to replace it with a 2005.5 A4 3.2) the two new Audis we wanted had fewer features, somewhat lower MSRP's but much higher lease payments than either BMW (my wife replaced her $42K TT with a $47K BMW and lowered her mo pay by $128) or Infiniti (an M35X at ~ $51K compared to an A6 at $52,770 was $200 less and $112 less -- per month, respectively -- than my allroad).
In both cases the Audi's content (features) was lower, performance was about equal or lower, yet we had a preference for the Audis.
The value proposition -- for the first time since 1977 -- did NOT favor the Audis.
The fact that the Audis, in my biased opinion, were superior -- and therefore worth more (slightly) notwithstanidng -- still could not persuade us to pony up an extra $328 per month.
I think the deals on the Audis may be improving (local newspapers) but the web site still makes me think that Audi pushed its way into the premium price class about a year or so prematurely.
I still am one of Audis biggest fans -- and those who have or are about to acquire any Audi product will not get a raspberry from me. My circumstances, my history and experiences with Audi (and I include my wife's too) are that "mine" (or ours).
I would love to have a silver A6 with Amaretto Sport seats and all the trimmings -- but, at this juncture, I just can't make the "value proposition" work for me.
My friends tell me I'll be back to German for sure and probably to Audi, next time.
Time will tell.
The dealership’s mechanic was at a loss as the diagnostic computer did not reveal any clues as to what was wrong. He discussed the problem with a factory representative where they recommended replacing one of many, many modules but the problem persisted. The factory representative then suggested replacing a second module, which, so far, has done the trick.
Hopefully Audi will continue to improve upon the reliability of their automobiles, but until then, I wouldn’t recommend one. They are beautiful cars but based upon the experiences that my friends, family, and I have had, the Audi is far from reliable. If you must have an Audi, I’d recommend leasing one as it would be a very expensive car to own for the long term. My next car will likely be a BMW or of the Japanese variety.
Note to self: Never buy an Audi again!
Thanks!
P.s. the sticker is $50,000 and they only want a discount of $2,000 - so $48 is this right?
But you've got in backwards as Audi is actually cutting down on too many individual options..... and making them a part of a larger package.
You won't be able to get parktronic or advanced key as a stand alone option anymore. You have to get the technology package which includes parktronic, advanced key, navigation, voice activation & sat. radio. The new technology package will be a $3800 option. You can still get DVD NAV as an $1800 option.
Base price of the new 2006 3.2 A6 is $43,970.
I understand the advances in that the key fob contains a transmitter and a chip that identifies "you" and can set the car to your preferences and so on. What I can't understand is the charge (when unbundled) of $750 for a starter button. I believe the new BMW 3's too may have this as an option. It seems to me if you can bring a car to market (as Audi has often done) with either a stick shift or an automatic (for the same money) you could offer "keyless" ignition for a lot less than $750 or however much of that $3,800 tech package is represented by the advance key.
What next, crank starters, for $1995?
What's old is new again, I get that. It just seems to me that keyless start versus a keyed start couldn't possibly "cost" enough even with 30% margin to be "worth" that much.
Having tested several cars with keyless ignition, I must admit it is at the very least, "cool." I am, as noted, old(er), but that just seems -- in this instance -- like a "gouge 'em" price.
This does not detract from the overall goodness of the new A6 -- but it is too conspicuous IMO as a revenue generator. Funny, voice activation, as I recall was a $350 option. My current Audi (a 2003) has the On*star voice activation system (which is less capable, I am led to believe than the new Audi's version) -- based on my experiences, I WOULD pay $750 for that for the ability to control the phone completely hands and eyes free and also for not having to "teach" the system to understand me vs my wife, for example.
Perhaps it is moot at this point but I could do without the advance key, but am finding voice activation a convenience and safety feature -- big time.
I'm not too crazy about the advanced key. It's a cool feature, but I already like the way you barely have to turn the key in the ignition on the A6 and it starts up. It's very smooth.
I'm prone to losing my keys and always wondering where they are, anyway. Not having them in the ignition will have me always grabbing for my pockets (and elsewhere) to see where I put my keys.