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They are about 3.5in dia., are sold under the name 'Blazer' at Pep Boys for $30.
All the wiring and a toggle switch come with them.
It has double-sided tape to mount them or you can drill a hole and they have mounting hardware for that. (I drilled the hole and used the mounting hardware)
They fit with no problem where the black vents are in the bumper.
Replacement bulbs are $10. (I just replaced one after 3 months)
I didn't use the toggle switch in the kit. (Wanted to but the switch was bad)
I wired the lights to a relay I got out of an ‘automatic off’ headlight kit from K-mart ($10).
I have the relay control connected to an accessory fuse at the fuse panel inside the car so the driving lights only come on when the ignition is on. The hardest thing to do was to find a way to route the relay control wire through the firewall. If you have never done this kind of thing before I would suggest that you don’t bother or get someone who knows how to do it.
Good luck
Took my 01 Elantra in today to see whats up with the front end shake. About a month ago, the dealer was able to balance the front tires under warranty. I have some 9800 miles on it now. This did not help maters.
Because the rear tires were not checked or balanced I took the car to the local BIG-10 tire shop and had them balance all 4 tires on their lifetime rotat/balance plan.
The shaking was still there at speeds between 62 and 78.
I took car in today and the mechanic checked all 4 tires and rebalanced them. I told them I just had them all balanced about 2 weeks ago anf they said all 4 of them were way off balance.
I didnt think this was going to fix the problem.
On the way home, the car did NOT shake. It was smooth as ice.
I can believe I cant even get tires balanced accurately from a place that mounts tires all day long.
I am afraid our hospitals are probably not any better either.
The machine at BIG-10 was no cheapy....... Auto calibration etc and I still get a loused up balance job.
Not that I would or could do it any better, but maybe I will get a weekend job at the tire place next time I need a balance job and just do it myself.
I hope my problem is solved, I am surprised the balancing worked as it seemed soooo major a shake in the front end.
Good luck to those of you with the shakes too.
Tony
I've only had it since February and so far so good with everything. Despite the quirks/problems some folks have encountered I haven't had any. The only thing that did occur was a scraping sound in the front left brake area which was the rotor dust plate [looks like a metal frisbee] periodically touching the brake drum. I just pushed it back a bit and that took care of it.
I have the 4cyl 5spd 2wd. I have no problem with acceleration, tracking, braking. Aside from it being a 4cyl [150hp] it has plenty of power IMO even with 4 adults.
As for gas mileage I'm averaging about 26/27mpg highway and 22/23 city [in line with their specs based on my latest trip to PA on a full tank of gas].
The ride is car-like and holds the turns very nicely. It has a very quite interior even at 80mph with virtually no wind noise. On my last 3hr non stop trip from PA I had no complaints from front/rear passengers which included my wife and kids. All had plenty of room to stretch. The A/C worked fine and even had to keep it towards the middle dial setting because it was too cold if kept all the way towards the cold end.
Radio reception was also good as we passed thru PA/NJ zones. All in all one great little SUV.
If you plan on getting the 6cyl AWD. I suggest you test drive it and/or check the SF forum for more details. Others there will give you a better handle on how the 6cyl handles as well as how well the AWD works.
Good Luck!
(I posted a similar meassage in the Accent forum).
Thanks,
Leland
St. Louis had a hail storm in April and I took a car with slight (repaired) hail damage over one that had vibration at 65-75 miles per hour. Hope I won't regret that one. Dealer has attached written statement that manufactures warranty on factory finish applies, of course I didn't actually look through all the fine print in the Hyundai contract.
Apparently the biggest problem is that the driver's airbag deployed late in the three tests they performed, and that was supposed to have caused significant head injury. However, the cabin area held up well. The tests also showed some leg injuries too.
This is in contrast to the government's test, by NHTSA, that gave the Elantra 4 of 5 stars. I was thinking maybe we'll be seeing a recall to put in a new airbag sensor that will make it deploy faster? I guess Hyundai will have to decide that. It's kinda sad that the Elantra got a poor grade from IIHS, because they gave the Santa Fe the highest saftey rating for SUV's of it's category.
I still feel safe in my Hyundai, though. I just have to stay out of accidents! However, this could affect our insurance rates.
Since the IIHS tested the vehicle three times, I think the results are probably more accurate than the ones from NHTSA (I know they are not identical tests). Maybe if NHTSA were to retest the Elantra, the results would change also?
http://www.progressive.com/resource_center/crash_videos.htm
So cruel to crash a perfectly good brand new Elantra!
The problem of late airbag deployment, according to the Hyundai sources, never happened in any of the tests conducted by other institutions as well as numerous in-house tests by Hyundai. Although this is not an official statement of the company, I think they will probably come up with one in the near future once they put together all the facts on the table.
This is my take on the issue. If you look at the slow motion video of the test, the structure of the cage endured the crash exceptionally well. The damage to the interior was minimal. I have seen numerous crash test videos out of my personal interest, and know for a fact that most cars showing this level of performance on the structural damage front would have come out on the top on the rating. Indeed the late airbag deployment had a devastating impact on the overall score. If we took the comments of the Hyundai excs at face value, the airbags of the two cars tested must have been extraordinarily unlucky ones for Hyundai. I do not know whether this was really the case, but I do know they have to work their butt off to figure out what exactly happened and fix this potential problem ASAP.
Are the 2001 Elantra's front seat latches defective? Was this a fluke on IIHS test. Why did the side airbag deploy on one crash but not the other?
While it is true that the structural integrity of the Elantra looks good; the fact remains that the 2001 Elantra did poorly overall in three offset crash tests done by IIHS. That is hard to explain away as a fluke.
I hope Hyundai releases an explanation and conduct more tests of their own for peace of mind sake.
I can't imagine how Hyundai is going to try to explain this one away. The tests by the NHTSA are not as severe as the tests by the IIHS, so its natural to see better crash test results from them.
Whatever they choose to say, I hope they are up-front about these problems and not try to dodge them like Ford did with the recent tire scandal. If they are honest about it and take care of these issues through a voluntary recall right away I would have a great deal of respect for Hyundai as an automaker. I *might* even consider the Elantra for the next MY (once its re-tested).
In a nutshell: rates are based on actual injury and property losses reported to insurance companies and/or rating organizations (like ISO). These losses are measured in dollar amounts. Once this dollar loss data is collected and organized for a particlar vehicle, that vehicle is assigned a "symbol" (or similar designator) which is then used to rate the vehicile. The "symbol" gives an insurance underwriter a good "snapshot" of the real-world loss experience for that particular car and allows him or her to charge the policyholder accordingly. These symbols are reviewed frequently and can change. And don't forget -- there are two other non-mechanical variables that go into determining a policyholder's final premium: the driver and the garage location. It also takes years for enough data to be collected about a particular vehicle for it to become credible enough for use in rating.
The NHTSA injury data are not measurable in dollar amounts. In the case of the Hyundai Elantra, the dummy had a "likely" injury to its foot in all three tests. Without knowing how much it will cost to "fix" those injuries and return the dummy's foot to its original condition, it's hard to use that "data" to determine a rate. Ironically, the one test that COULD have an impact on rates is the 5-mph bumper bash test. In that test, results ARE measurable in dollar amounts: the bumper was bashed. Result: it cost $532 to return the bumper to normal conition. Conclusion: we could reasonably expect every bumper on every Elantra to cost about that much to fix.
Personally, I'd look to the vehicle's overall structure to get an idea of how "safe" it will be. A strong car tends to need fewer repairs after taking a big hit. Fewer repairs result in lower costs insurers. It took ten years of working in the insurance industry for me to figure this out!
Happy Motoring!
Hyundai should do the voluntary recall for airbag fixes, if they try to stonewall it shows an ignorance of US marketing. All of the Hyundai is junk folks have really gotten back into critical mode in the last day, especially on the GT thread.
Focus was on my short list despite quite a few different recalls. The Hyundai corrections seem easily fixable: faster airbag deployment and a reinforced latch. That leaves the leg injury question-- even if that's not fixed the Elantra's safety scores should be pretty good. Fixing the structure of the car would be much more difficult, but even the Focus recall for A-pillar modifications didn't really bother me.
I test drove a Corolla and last generation Civic before I bought this car. Hyundai's charge to the front of the pack in this market segment was clear to me then, and it's still clear now.
ebekins, Thanks for the link showing the videos of the crashes.
I noticed that there is some buckling of the passenger compartment during the offset crash. This doesn't happen to the Honda Civic tested the same way.
I have just sent an email to Hyundai.com asking them if they are going to recall the vehicles to repair the airbag switch.
I personally would not have purchased the elantra based on these new crash results. I gave that more weight than the price or warranty in my car buying decesion.
I just wanted to report my first 11500 miles with my 01 Elantra. I bought this car on Oct. 22nd 2000 have 11555 miles. It hasn't ever been back to the dealer since, or any other dealer. This car has been flawless. I haven't had a single problem. I have only changed the oil and oil filters every 3000 to 3500 miles in which I do myself. Anyway, this has been one of the best new car experiences I have had. Only other car that I guess I can compare to is my 94 Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4 which also hasn't had any problems (only 18500 miles). But I wouldn't expect it to have any problems since that car was 43K in 94 or roughly 3 times the price.
I guess the only thing that worries me somewhat is the recent IIHS crash tests. Hopefully Hyundai will fix the air bag deployment problem.
Anyway, happy motoring.
Shawn
,our car is not bad at all and remember: it is not a Volvo!!
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/ncap
Just for the record, I am not affiliated with Hyundai in anyway although I happen to speak Korean due to my background and came across the article on one Korean paper yesterday; nor did I try to vindicate Hyundai or stonewall the test results in the least bit. Also, if you paid attention to my original post, you would have noticed my conclusion was not that a fluke caused the late airbag deployment. On the contrary I was trying to point out the oddity of the conclusion if you "took" their comments at face value.
Nevertheless numerous other facts also remain that other crash test ratings were good (including ones for the previous model year) and the structural integrity of the Elantra in this test was exceptionally good. I do not agree with the opinion that the Elantra fared well in the NHTSA test because it was a less severe one. It is fairly uncommon that the same model fares very well in one and does poor in the other unless there is a very specific factor affecting one of the tests. Usually there is a correlation. Obviously in this case the airbag is the culprit.
This is my opinion, which happens to be in line with many of yours. The fact that the airbag deployed normally in other tests and didn't in the recent test shows the possibility of defects in the airbag system supplied during a certain period (possibly even now). If this is really happening, then Hyundai should recall every single one of them and replace it immediately. No doubt about it.
I do not think Hyundai USA is ignorant about how marketing works here. All of their key execs are seasoned Americans and they make their own decisions. They are the ones who comanage the Hyundai studio in California and coordinated design improvements to the prototype of the popular Santa Fe based on a year long US road tests. Those private comments by Korean execs I've seen were apparently for domestic (i.e. Korean) consumption, but I agree it was not appropriate by US standards. Let's see how they are going to react here.
Got my new K&N Air filter (Part #33-2201) for my 2001 Elantra and it fits perfectly. Just be prepared for a bit of a struggle to get the cover back on (two slots in the back and a couple snap latches and a 10mm bolt.) I'll post my impressions in a couple weeks.
BTW, I got my filter from www.4wheelparts.com. Good price ($39 plus shipping) and when the ELantra filter was back-ordered it got shipped directly from K&N for no extra charge.
I called Hyundai today to ask them what was up with the crash tests and they told me they were looking into all the results and would be coming out with a response. She couldn't tell me in what timeframe they would have a response.
Hopefully, Hyundai will not be like this.
At what point do we stop asking for someoneelse to be responsible for our actions?For instance if I dont want to wear a seat belt why make me?Give us the freedom to be stupid if we wish.That can only strengthen the gene pool.
We all would like the freedom to be stupid if we wish (for example, while posting to this forum). But if we buy a car with a feature that is supposed to work a certain way, say an airbag that is supposed to inflate quickly enough to keep our heads from hitting the steering wheel--we should reasonably expect that it will work as it is supposed to. Ditto with seat belts. Of course, you can choose to leave your seat belts unbuckled and deactivate your car's airbags if you wish, as long as you are willing to deal with the fines for breaking state laws (if they apply).
I hope Hyundai does not act like DaimlerChrysler on the safety issue. I heard today that they are fixing a defect in the fuel filler pipe of their minivans that can cause a fire. But they're only fixing the 2002 models--no recall for the 400,000 2001 model vans on the road. Reason? Company executives said that the chance of a fire is remote. What they should have said is that their accountants have figured out that the cost of recalling 400,000 minivans is greater than the cost of the lawsuits they may lose from families of the victims of fires caused by the defect. I guess they haven't heard of the Ford Pinto.
Frankly, I would have thought that the seat belt pretensioners would have stopped the dummy from hitting the steering wheel. In my 2000 Elantra I am unable to move forward any appreciable distance before the seat belt locks up.
Looking at the 2001 test video; it looks as if the body moved forward, the steering wheel did not move back. Did the seat belt pretensioners fail? I'm assuming the 2001 Elantra has them.
Tony
You may be right about the seat belt tensioner.
I looked closely at the video and the seat belt did move or possibly stretch. Looks like there may be a combination of problems.
fangio2
I guess your right that you can't force people not to be stupid. If people don't want to wear seatbelts then they should sign a waiver saying that the insurance company and the state are not responsible for any injuries they sustain in an accident. They have the right to be stupid and the public has a right not to pay for their stupidity.
The offset crash test is actually a viable real world test. I had a drunk driver lose control of his vehicle and come into my lane causing an accident that was just like the offset test.
I ended up with a broken nose and stitches in my nose, lip, and eyelid. (and that was with a seatbelt on, no airbag, at about 35mph) My rear seat passenger spent 6 mos in the hospital. (no seatbelt on)
I personally consider anybody who doesn't wear a seatbelt to be an idiot. (My 21-year-old son, who scored over 1400 on his SATs, included)
Just goes to prove that you can be very intelligent but have no common sense.
I'm not sure, but I think the video may be of the second (out of 3) test. It's not the seat-belt failure causing the dummy's forward movement, but the driver's seat actually coming loose of its tracks.
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/0103.htm
Your conclusion is totally illogical and the most reasonable conclusion is that I believe very strongly in personal (and corporate) responsibility.
That conclusion would be the correct one.
If the Echo fares as poorly as the Elantra did in the offset crash test, I will not be blaming the test. I will be blaming Toyota.
Many times, corporations weigh the potential costs of a recall against the potential costs of lawsuits and act accordingly.
Yes, DC did not say that, but I am sure some people at DC are thinking that.
Hopefully, this same type of thinking is not going on at Hyundai about the Elantra, but I bet it is.
This failure during the test is more likely a error during manufacturing and not a design flaw.
And the error may not be that large at all.
I still think that Hyundai needs to express concern about the results and not try to blame the test itself.
Thanks
Try wax. Apply it to the affected area with a terry cloth and rub it gently in a circular motion. Should come up as you are doing it. If not, let it dry to a haze and then buff it. If not, go to pep boys and see if they have a paint stain remover. But wax should get it up, especially if this occured shortly after you have waxed the car, it will make matters easier.
My theory on crashtests...
Crash tests? Call me ignorant, but I totally ignored that when shopping for a car. Well not totally, I checked the standard equipped of every car that I looked at and saw that airbags came standard with every model, so I thought that was good enough. I was more concerned with standard equipment, engine, appearence and ride/comfort. I mean, I came from a 1986 Toyota Corolla that had no airbags, antilock brakes or traction control or any other BS high tech saftey equipment. So anything was an improvement from that. All that safety stuff IMO, is a waste of money. I rather get the rims, CD player, spoiler for $1000 vs. the antilock brakes. I lived without it for the first 3 years of driving...so I dont need it.
BTW, in the 2000 Elantra, the front got an acceptable rating. Its the people in the backseat who are screwed if they get hit on the side :P As long as Im safe, then people can ride elsewhere, which would be better cause they make a mess in my car when they come anyway!
The latest crash testing by IIHS has shown that the Elantra has poor overall crash worthiness.
The main reason for my purchasing the Elantra were the crash test results posted by the NHTSA giving the Elantra 4 to 5 star ratings.
After comparing the testing by the 2 different organizations it almost looks like the NHTSA tests were done with a hand selected vehicle instead of a standard production vehicle.
Based on the IIHS results I would not have purchased or even considered the Elantra. I make it a point to only buy vehicles with 4-5 star crash ratings.
What does Hyundai intend to do about fixing this problem?
Will there be a recall to fix the slow responding air bag switch?
Their answer.
Your questions and concerns are legitimate regarding the crash test results from the IIHS. We do dont dispute the test results but we do want to stress that this is an independent test from an independent agency of which the results are not used to set US government standards. We have received very high crash test ratings from NHTSA, NCAP, EURO NCAP, KARCO, and Hyundai
Motor Korea , and all performed the same set of tests. We are working with IIHS, studying test results and coming up with solutions they may affect future models if necessary. We will not be issuing a recall because there is no defect in the vehicle itself or in the design of our Airbag Safety Systems. We will gladly answere any other questions you may have regarding this matter and/or provide more detailed test results if you contact our consumer affairs line at 800-633-5151. Thank You
IIHS came out and said that in two of three tests the airbag deployed late. Is Hyundai saying this is was a fluke or that this is normal?
In closing, I still love my Elantra and continue to feel that I made the right choice over the Civic! Well there you have it, my long winded personal 10,000 mile road review.
Robert MSEd.