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When looking forward at a street, the large post partially blocks the view to the left for oncoming traffic.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
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Flate-Rate Time to install the oil jet kit is 0.7 hours. Photographing the gears and then installing the oil jet kit takes 1.1 hours. Installing a remanufactured transmission is flat-rated at 7.8 hours.
I'd go back about the noise and confront the Service Manager about the story the Service Writer gave you the first time.
___I am not faulting anyone for purchasing a V6 based LX but the EX would probably be the smarter choice based on resale possibility alone let alone the much higher level of amenities.
___According to Edmunds, TCO’s are as follows and they are high on the EX V6 imho:
05 Accord LX V6 w/ Auto: $0.43/mile
05 Accord EX V6 w/ Auto: $0.46/mile
___For $0.03/mile, you receive a leather interior/seats, multi-level heated seats, dual zone auto climate, XM satellite radio, external temperature display, alloys, hood w/ struts, interior trunk lid w/ a covering, power glass sunroof, drivers seat w/ manual lumbar adjustment, 4-way power passenger seat, height adjustable passenger seat, Homelink Universal remote for garage/security, leather wrapped steering wheel, illuminated power window switches, and ambient console lighting.
___At trade-in or for sale time, the EX will be a far easier sell then would the LX w/ a V6.
___In terms of noise, during acceleration the I4 has a far higher dB output but out on the highway, the I4 is ~ equivalent at 55 - 60 mph in my experience.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
If you are changing lanes, you should turn and look to see if the lane is clear.
I have a 2005 Accord and don't find the mirrors better or worse than anythng else, unless you want to try the WINK-style mirrors on race cars.
The only advantage when closed is that during the day, it's brighter inside the car. My interior is black leather, so the extra light helps.
The real issue with the moonroof is that it reduces headroom by 2.1 inches. The Accord is tall enough so it doesn't matter for me (5'11"), but if you're over 6' tall and like to sit high in the driver's seat, the moonroof might annoy you.......Richard
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It should be the same Accord that is being sold in the US.
I've seen horrible accident photos of Mercedes cars ripped apart similarly--they've always been among the safest.
Under some conditions, no car (and no person) is safe.......Richard
___Did you have a friend or family at the scene or personally involved taking pics?
___What a mess is about all I can add and god speed to those that lost their lives
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
Question: Have any owners experienced a "crunch" when shifting VERY quickly from 1st to 2nd at or near redline? I've driven a stick shift for 40 years, I believe I have a solid base for doing it right.
When I say quickly I'm talking about the time you pulled out (in 1st) and saw another car coming towards you at a high rate of speed and realized you needed a floored accelerator and a super quick shift to 2nd to get out of the way and blend into the traffic. I've never had a five speed do this before and I'm wondering if others have experienced it.
Minor points - the LX-V6 does have a lined trunk lid and gas struts for the hood but you forgot to list that the EX-V6 includes alloy wheels. The exterior temperature sensor is an $84 add-on accessory on non-leather Accords. What I do miss a lot is the integrated XM radio and leather-wrapped steering wheel on the EX-V6.
I have to confess my ignorance - can anyone explain what "ambient console lighting" is? I've seen it in the Honda brochure but didn't know what it is. Wayne? Anybody?
I believe that you will find that the "ambient console lighting" is handled by a very small lamp in the overhead console (at least in my 2004 EX V6 Coupe). It is aimed down, and gives a soft amber illumination to the lower console in the area of the shifter, cupholders, coinholder and power jack. It is only visible in the dark and may be unnoticable unless you wave your hand slowly near the overhead console.
___I did mention the EX comes w/ alloys but I did not know the LX V6 had the gas struts for the hood or the interior trunk lid lining. You cannot add the gas struts to the I4’s without a tabbed bracket welded in unfortunately so a prop rod will be forever the std. :-( The interior trunk liner is an ~ $60.00 fix according to another Accord site I hang out at and the HW snaps right in ;-)
___You can add the Homelink console as well if you would like. I don’t remember the cost for the LX’s but it couldn’t be that much more expensive? If it was expensive, you can install and wire up the Homelink based Rear View mirrors w/ a compass and external temp for < $250.00 as another option.
___I believe Blane nailed the ambient lighting question
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
Curious about the projection of better resale value for the EX-V6 vs. the LX-V6, I looked up Kelley Blue Book values for 2003 models.
The difference between Trade-In and Retail values was only about $1,875 while Private Party sale projects a $2,200 difference.
Here in 2005, the new purchase price difference between the LX-V6 and EX-V6 is around $2,800. I realize this is only a rough projection but the above figures put the LX-V6 $600-900 ahead on depreciation. The 2005 LX-V6 model adds side-curtain airbags missing on the 2003 LX-V6 so that may widen the gap a little further.
Of course, the EX-V6 will always be worth more than the LX-V6 but will it always be worth the $2,800 more that it cost at the start? One intangible too is that a used EX-V6 could be easier or faster to sell with it's extra equipment - hard to say, everything here is speculation.
I'm certainly not saying that the EX-V6 is a bad buy. If you want leather, a sunroof, alloy wheels, XM radio, navigation or the other things, the EX-V6 is an awesome package (and without the torque-steer that bedevils Acura TL owners).
Still, I'm puzzled as to why the LX-V6 isn't more popular. Perhaps I've overlooked something?
Thanks for your concern. These pics are all over the car forums in Chinese. I just posted the link here. The report says that 1 killed and 4 seriously injured.
Honda has a factory in Canton and sells them there. Accord is very expensive there , about 30k usd for the basic trim. Some people in Chinese media questioned whether the passengers involved in the accident wore seat belts. They probably didn't, since very few people do.
___There is a Honda salesman that goes by the nick Isellhondas (imagine that ;-)) here at Edmunds that has stated in the past that he can’t give away new LX V6’s for whatever reason? I think it’s a viable alternative to the more expensive EX myself but boy does the EX come nicely equipped. I sure wish your V6’s TCS came on the I4 EX’s
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Thank you for the reply and the update. I have been posting the pics you linked to other Accord forums and it has stirred some controversy. Oh how I wish the Chinese government could keep up with the driving public (better and safer roads, driver training, traffic enforcement etc. ) to keep such tragedies from happening. Little can I say anything given the death rate on America’s highways and Byways as well?
___Whatever your traditions or beliefs, please say a prayer for the member that died and for those that survived.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
TCS would be nice, but the 4 cyl. doesn't generate as much torque as the V6 so there's less need for TCS.
Also, I think selecting D2 on the transmission starts and holds the car in second gear. Second gear starts are fairly easy to control on slippery surfaces--at least that's what I remember about winter driving before leaving Cleveland for San Francisco in 1972.......Richard
not if you don't want to downshift a gear or two. torque is indeed revelant. for all out acceleration the more high end torque you have the better off you are.
Toyota, while having racing involvement, seems to have adhered closer to the "customer is king" adage. The torque of its 4 and 6 cylinder motors is higher than the Honda's. Additionally, Toyota engines' peak torque is attained at lower RPM - meaning, it takes less gas pedal pressure and noise to accelerate
again, not so. For example: car A with 200 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm (its peak torque) that retains 180 lb-ft @ 1800 will have better low end power than car B with 205 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm (it's peak torque) that retains 155 lb-ft @ 1800 rpm.
peak torque at high rpm doesn't necessary mean it lacks abundant low end torque. torque through out the engine's power band is what you want.
the accord's 2.4 i4 torque curve is marvelous. it certainly doesn't lack torque compared to toyota's 2.4 i4.
the current accord's 3.0 v6 peak torque is not much higher than the previous generation 3.0 v6 (11 lb-ft) but its torque curve is much flatter now. it now has abundant power at all engines speeds. i know the 5 speed helps here but the difference in low end power is impressive. more impressive than the additional 40 hp it now has.
now if honda can get its act together with the civic. 1.7 engines just don't cut it any more. they do indeed lack torque compared to the competition.
If you are changing lanes, you should turn and look to see if the lane is clear.
I have a 2005 Accord and don't find the mirrors better or worse than anythng else, unless you want to try the WINK-style mirrors on race cars.
We teach to move the head against the drivers side window and then adjust the mirror so that you can see just barely the side of the car. When you adjust the passenger side mirror move your head to the middle of the car to make the adustment to just barely see the side of the car on the Passengers side.
The area you lose directly behind the car is taken over by the inside rear view mirror. To check it out have someone walk from one side of the car to the other side and watch in the side then rear and other side view mirror. You will be supprised by the greater field of view you have.
Maybe the placment of the mirrors was done with this in mind.
According to the stats released by the Chinese govt, 107,000 people killed in traffic accidents in 2004. I remember that that figure in the US is around 45,000). Comparing with the ratio between numuber of vehicles and people, the Chinese one is really too high.
In terms of seatbelt, people just began to realize its importance. Most people think it is useless to wear it, and the babies are not restrained at all, since they believe they can hold the babies tight in case of the accidents, sigh...
Most Popular Exterior Car Colors Based on Nationwide Consumer Preferences
Men Women
1. Silver 1. Silver
2. Black 2. Black
3. White 3. Blue
4. Red 4. White
5. Blue 5. Red
6. Gray 6. Gray
7. Green 7. Green
8. Beige 8. Beige
9. Gold 9. Gold
It's so common that I've seen as many as 7 silver cars parked in a row on San Francisco city streets. But silver doesn't show dirt and looks good after a few weeks without washing--a major advantage.
I thought people chose silver because they couldn't make up their minds. Silver is neither very light nor dark, and is really a metallic gray--not much of a color at all. But it's popular because Silver is viewed as a hi-tech color and that's its primary appeal, so I've heard......Richard
I routinely flash oncoming cars with low driving lights that stay on when low beams are on. I have my left front lights aimed left and up (which works nice for suburban roads I travel) and when my high beams are on it hits oncoming drivers in their face just like they hit me with their "driving lights."
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
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There's lots of conversation there for you to read through, and it's the best place to continue the debate.
Have fun and good luck!
I'm concerned mostly with this one.
When I take my foot off the accelator it sometimes feels like the car slows down too quickly then when the tachometer reads around 1(000) it gets a boost in acceleration (I can see the tac go up just a little bit then back down). I have been monitoring this in different situations eg. once the car has been warmed up, exit off a freeway, on a flat stretch of road etc...
I'm wondering if the car has to be broken in or if this is a problem (I have 350 miles on it) break-in period is 600 miles.
Has anyone else experienced this?
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It does, doesn't it? Especially when you are accelerating and suddenly take your foot off the accelator. One time when I did that, my wife thought I stepped on the brakes for no reason.
I think it's normal. Just enjoy the new car.
Forgive me if this is a silly question or even a silly complaint. I have an '04 EX-V6 with navi and don't particularly like the fact that the speedometer, clock (and other text in that area), and navi text is white, with the dash buttons lighting up green. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't most cars have the same backlit color for their dash buttons as their speedometers, etc.? For example green with green, orange/orange, red/red, white/white, etc. For example, I believe most Lexus cars are backlit in white? Am I right about this? Am I way too picky? No one, as far as I know, has commented or complained about this before. And more importantly, was my car made correctly as far as this concerned--is mine the same as yours (especially those of you with navi?)
As a contrast, I believe the Accord coupe has a red speedometer with red backlit buttons, and thus matches, but it seems as if the sedan is an enigma. It seems to me the dash should be lit all one color, and thus match, giving a uniform, classy presentation!? Your thoughts appreciated.
Mike
"Feels like my 2005 Accord EX-L Sedan is floating all over the road, but when I take my hands off the wheel, the car does maintain a straight line."
I think I know what you mean. I have a 2004 LX and when I first got it, it was actually a chore to drive down the highway. I felt like I had to constantly concentrate on driving whereas my '94 Civic felt like it was driving itself. Eventually, for the mostpart, it has quit doing this. Whether from breakin of the car or me getting used to the feel of the car, I don't know.
Can this be adjusted or is this the way it should be. I don't like it but will probably have to get used to. Never had this problem in my '91 accord. I