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  • gabmangabman Posts: 284
    Thanks for the reply, I already negotiated a set of winter tires into the lease, couldn't get them to throw in wheels so will have to decide if I want to use same wheels or get new ones. In as much as I lease really does not bother me to use same wheels unless of course I will have tire problems.


    One question about run flat all seasons that come with the car. I have been reading some negative comments about these tires, do you have them and should I be concerned?


    Fully agree with you about parking assist, tried it out on the Infiniti M35X and it worked very well. I am torn over the two cars. The 545i by far is a superior drive over the M35 not to mention it is 8 Cyl instead of 6. I am stuck over all the options that I have to give up that are on the Infiniti. The 545i is a stock car and really does not have any options in it.


    Am leaning towards the BMW and will have to decide today.


    Thanks again for your input.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "In as much as I lease really does not bother me to use same wheels unless of course I will have tire problems."


    It's not the potential for problems that should be your concern, it's the cost. I live in New Hampshire and made the decision to buy a set for my leased 530i after looking at the cost (in both time and money) of swapping tires on a single set of wheels twice a year (and the requisite rebalance). With just the dollar cost alone I was able to justify the new wheels over the course of the lease, factor in the extra time (especially since I can swap my own wheels in about 30 minutes) and the difference in true cost is so large that I was able to justify the second set of wheels in just the first year.


    Needless to say, my vote is for you to get a set of cheepie wheels (TireRack has a set of 17 x 7.5 ASA JH3 wheels for $516 USD plus shipping and taxes) for your car.


    Best Regards,

  • khoonkhoon Posts: 85
    I am awaiting one as well. Just got off the phone with a NYC dealer who mentioned that they're gearing up to take orders on the 530Xis within the next 10-14 days - but they yet don't have pricing on the car.


    They expect incremental price in the range of $2,000 - $2,500 for the AWD, and availability is expected around May - June '05.


    Anyone have any updates on this?
  • Does anyone know if the 545 will receive the same engine 4.8 liter V8 update that the 745 is scheduled to receive?
  • sdg380sdg380 Posts: 109
    According to prevailing opinions on, the new 550 will be available as an '06 model in Sept./Oct. I might have to consider 360 hp.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    As if I hadn't already been happy with the fact that I purchased a set of winter wheels and tires for my leased 530i, I've just come up with an even greater cost justification.


    As my car has just over a month left on its lease, I had it inspected today in preparation for its return to BMW. The inspector tested my summer set of tires and found them to all have more tread depth than the minimum (min=4mm, I had one at 5mm, one at 6mm and two at 7mm), and as such, I won't be charged the $200 per tire (according to the inspector) replacement charge from BMW (I'd be surprised that they'd be that cheap from BMW as they are $191 per tire from plus about $30 per tire for mounting and balancing) at lease turn in. Hmmm, $800 for a new set of summer tires that I didn't have to buy vs. $1,007 for my winter wheel/tire set (including shipping). As if that isn't good enough, my winter tires easily have four or five serviceable seasons of tread on them (they still look new), so I should easily be able to sell them next fall to any E39 540i or 530i driver looking for a deal on a winter set.


    Best Regards,

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,586
    do you know if they'll fit the offset on a non-sp equipped E60?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, offhand, I would say probably not. Then again, I just looked around on the internet and found that both the E39 and the E60 could/can be had with 16 x 7 wheels with an offset of "ET 20", which is what my wheels are. Hmmm, maybe they will fit. Then again (again), I just called and asked them and the official word is "They are not guaranteed to fit, but they might."


    So, it's a definite "Maybe". ;-)


    Best Regards,

  • jim53jim53 Posts: 115
    how does 2,740 off MSRP sound for a 2005 545?
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,883
    My Blizzaks proved their worth in last weeks snowstorm/blizzard when I arrived at the bottom of the steep hill I must climb to get to my house.
    It was covered with 3-4 inches of fresh snow.

    I gunned it and just fed in enough gas to maintain headway as I climbed the steep grade.
    My 528iA basically mastered the hill without any indication of the tricky footing underneath other than the traction control light flickering on
    for the entire length of the climb.

    Piece 'o cake, thank you Bridgestone, Bosch and BMW.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • jim53jim53 Posts: 115
    Any opinion on the deal in post 9912?
  • sdg380sdg380 Posts: 109
    Jim, I've heard that as a general rule of thumb, a fair price for a new car is 4-6% over invoice. So depending on how well-equipped the car is that you're considering, that reduction off the MSRP may be fair.

    If possible, a few hours checking a couple of other dealers for the same car should give you an idea of what the traffic will bear.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,042
    A newspaper reporter wants to talk with current and former BMW owners who either love or hate the brand's new styling. Please respond to by Friday, February 25, 2005 with your daytime contact info and a few words expressing your opinion.


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  • stoleystoley Posts: 10
    Has anybody experienced the clear coat protection that BMW offers in their 5 series accessorty catalog? It looks like Seran Wrap - but it looks strong like it would protect against rocks, etc. My local dealer doesn't sell it...but maybe I can find another that does???
  • Okay, now I have a real dumb question, but I have to ask it:

    On the ‘05 530i, the manual states that pressing the radio button (the little black knob that sticks out) will turn the radio off.

    However, when I press this button, a little icon which looks like a speaker with a slash through appears and then I no longer hear any audio. however, the radio isn’t turned off, it is merely muted. the reason I know this is because when I’m playing a CD and I hit that button, the music is muted, giving the appearance that the system is off, and the system keeps going through the tracks of the CD.

    Does anybody know how to turn off the radio/audio system?

  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    The iDrive is so complicated we can't even tell how to turn off the radio!! This is progress? Oh, for the good old days when everything was controlled by a button! If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My motto: new is worse.

    This is ridiculous. BMW is suffering because of this. Customers are fleeing. No wonder they're making iDrive optional on the coming 3.
  • Actually I would appreciate insight on this one too. I have not found a way to actually turn it off either in my '05 530. If you use the knob it turns back on when you restart the car which is annoying if you are on the phone and it comes blaring through.

    Don't get me wrong other than that one minor annoyance I really don't think I-drive is that big of deal. I don't even have to look down to use it anymore.
  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    All I can say is in my car (2004 5 Series) the i-Drive does not function like in yours—or yes?

    When I press the radio button while the CD is playing, the CD comes to a stop. Then the screen freezes showing the track number and the time that track has been played. But the CD player is actually stopped, not only muted. There is no advance either in the clock or from the track to the next one; in addition, there is no noise of anything running inside.

    Then, if I switch off the whole car by taking out the ignition key (leaving the CD in the player), and then I start the car again, the screen comes in and shows the track number and the time as before. But the CD is not played unless you press once more the radio button to start it. If you press the eject button at any time during this process, the CD is ejected and the screen is reset.

    I believe this is the way i-Drive is designed to keep apart the stop-and-eject function (you must press eventually the eject button) from the temporal stop function. This is like any CD player with the reassume function switched on.

    IMO, it is the instruction manual which is very poorly written in a very "solid" German way in the 2004-5 BMW 5 Series, at least in its Spanish version. (Things can be always be worst, you may laugh in despair reading instructions manuals translated from Japanese into Spanish; I can imagine the same happens in translations from Spanish into other languages). I find that the i-Drive is (almost) a piece of cake when adequately explained.

  • ssinghssingh Posts: 10
    Thanks. I Just Leased a 525i with Xenon and auto tran base price 44070 got it on a lease for 41000. I had 1700.00 negative equity on my trade..just wanted to know if I got a good deal..
    3k down 602.00 a month for 36 months and 10k miles a year.
  • kscctsksccts Posts: 140
    Too late now. Enjoy your car and don't worry about your deal.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    If everyone thought that way we'd still be running around in Fred Flintstone stoneage mobiles. If so many customers are fleeing why did BMW just have it's best month sales-wise ever? Sales for 2004 were also higher than for the year before. It's fine if you don't like iDrive or technological advances in general, but to say "new is worse" certainly wouldn't get you hired by many companies in the world. Companies must continue to grow and come up with new ideas that keep them on the cutting edge or else they die. Clearly, BMW is not going to die just because a few vocal loyalists to the old designs can't handle change.
  • Anyone know if the new wagons have an option of a 3rd row seat ala volvo V70? Not looking to carry adults, but the occasional extra two kids in a pinch. Also, I stopped at a dealer yesterday and he said no pricing info yet, but he's expecting his first wagon in May. This was in Central NJ.
  • After a grueling couple of months desiding whether to lease a '05 325i or wait to find the ideal 525i, the wait is now I picked up my titanium silver BMW certified '01 525i with 51,800 miles for $26K plus TT&L with the follow options:

    Premium Pkg
    Gray Leather
    Premium Sound (DSP)
    Power Rear Shade
    17in wheels (just like the sport pkg)
    CD Changer

    Needless to say, the car is awesome!!! Coming from an Acura Integra, I feel like I do have the Ultimate Driving Machine....yeah, my feelings are very subjective right about now :)

    Now, I have nothing against Japanese cars, but there is some german engineering that the Japanese cannot copy/reproduce no matter how hard they try. For example, I drove both the '06 M35 and '06 GS300 on President's Day last Monday. They are fine cars and have the gadgets to keep the techies happy but they still don't match the driving experience I have had these past 24 hours in my 525i. As we have heard before and I will co-sign today that the BMW 5 series sedan is the best sport sedan...PERIOD!!!
  • cassidymcassidym Posts: 108
    Can't argue with you shayamsdaddy. I bought a 2005 545 Six-speed (NAV, SAT Radio, PDC, HUD, CWP) last October and just took it on its first long trip. I knew I was getting a good car but I didn't know it was THAT good. This is the smoothest, best performing, most responsive automobile I have ever driven or even been in. It flowed through the freeeways around New York City like silk through the fingers of a beautiful woman. I came up the parking lot laughingly known as the New Jersey Turnpike like I was flying (Well, until the NJ State Police forced me down and back to reality...No ticket though; just a warning for bad metaphors)

    You want great engineering, excellent ergonomics and useful cup holders, get a Lexus. You want the best driving car on the planet get a 5er.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    I have had 2 BMW 3 series since 1993 and the driving experience has been incomparable. Only one problem in 12 years-right front passenger airbag opened for no reason in 2002.
    Would like to move up to a 2005 530 or 545 this August.
    Have you had any mechanical issues with your 545?
    How does it perform in typical slow-moving every day traffic situations? I believe Edmunds said something negative about this vehicle's control in slower situations.
    Thanks for your input.
  • Ahhh the agony. After months of research & test driving, I think the 530i is the winner. But then I hear that the 2006 with larger HP engine is soon to be available. I can probably get a decent discount today on a 2005, or wait for the 2006 and pick it up in Germany in May. Since pricing and options are not announced, this is a tough decision. Being a first time luxury sedan buyer, can anyone make this decision easier for me?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    He he. That's an easy one. Do the ED thing and pick it up in Germany in May. Not only will you save considerable amounts of money (even compared with a "good deal on a 2005"), but you will get to drive one of the greatest driving machines in the world in its native environment.

    I did the ED thing on my 530i and I can tell you first hand, "It Rocks!" Oddly enough, we just had a little thread creap over at BMW 3-Series Owners: Problems & Solutions, if you want to give it a look. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • I am leaning towards ED (my wife is too, of course), but it just seems odd after having driven the 2005. To make a decision sight unseen on a 2006 is proving hard for the ex anal accountant that I am. Obviously I will be thrilled with either, as I am currently driving something made in South Korea....
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, well, here are a couple of points for your brain:

    1) You will probably save an easy $3,500 (less airfare) on the ED 2006 vs. a good deal on a domestically sourced 2005.
    2) The difference between the two model years is primarily the engine, which produces an extra 30 HP in the newer car, while achieving greater fuel efficiency at the same time.
    3) A vacation in Europe in a 5er is something that cannot be valued very easily. For Mrs. Shipo and me, it was priceless. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • cassidymcassidym Posts: 108
    Hi hpowders. Absolutely no problems yet with the 545. I have 7K miles on it and commute 50 miles a day round-trip, about half of which is stop-and-go with the rest at freeway speed. I've experienced no problems (apart from low morale) at slow speeds. The car is obviously designed to cruise at 80 (ooops, er, officer, I mean 65) but seems to do fine at lower speeds.

    My last car was an 86 325eS which I bought new and picked up in Munich (as I did my current one). Loved that car and felt a little heart tug when I sold it but quickly forgot that as soon as I started dring the 545.
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