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Jaguar XJ-Series

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  • ou814ou814 Posts: 12
    Thanks for the info. Just need clarification on a couple of things. When you say bleed the brakes when I push the piston in are you meaning to open the bleeder valve and let it run out at the caliper instead of pushing it back through the system?

    Also, the reason I asked on the weight of oil is because the dealer said to use 10-30. He said if I use 10-40 I would ruin something with the valves (I think he said guides or seals or something like that, I just wasn't paying as much attention as I should have been). He said I would ruin the motor if I used 10-40. Have you heard of this?

    When you say "hard" miles, what exactly do you mean? High rpm's, a lot of stop and go?

    Lastly where are you located in Florida? I will be down there for the first week in July and if you are close to where I will be I thought it might be nice to meet you since you have been such a great help.

    Thanks,

    Rick (loving every minute of driving his new Jag).
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Ahhh...

    The shop didnt pre-load the suspension when they aligned the car and I bet the camber is all... (I cant say the word here)ed up. Toe VERY rarely causes a pull, it's camber which does, specifically cross-camber. You could have 3degrees of positive or negative at each front wheel and the car wouldnt pull. But, say you have 0 degrees negative at the left and 2 degrees negative at the right. That's 2 degrees of cross camber and the car will now pull (in this case almost violently) to the left.

    Have the alignment rechecked. And yes those bloody wires, in my experience, are tough to balance.

    I promise I'll grab a pic of what the plug looks like :)

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Correct on the brake bleeding. Open the bleeder screw. In fact, if the fluid that comes out is dirty, I'd bleed the system.

    Oh, CASTROL GT/LMA BRAKE FLUID ONLY!!!! It works MUCH better with english rubber. :)

    And on XJ40s (Which use the AJ6 engine), 10W30 is really too light. In the X300s (Which use the updated AJ16 engine), they do like the lighter oils. 10W40 wont wreck your engine. I use it in the summertime here in Florida because.. well.. I run the hell out of the car and it's always 90+. Unless you're in a really hot climate like me, I think 10W30 is fine.

    I live in Orlando, when ya gonna be down here? I'd love to grab a snack or beer or something! Let me know! Best way to reach me is my cell.. 407-492-4854 I tend to be lazy with my e-mail :)

    As far as hard miles go.. I basically drive the heck out of the thing. Always full throttle, I drive like a complete maniac. I also like knocking the car sideways through corners and stuff. I really beat on it.. but.. it's fun :)

    The other day I took it to Miami and made it back from Aventura (225 miles I think) to Orlando in 3 hours even. Including a stop for gas :)))

    Bill
  • ou814ou814 Posts: 12
    I will be in Orlando from June 30 until July 4 and then I'm driving to Miami and Key West for a couple of days. I will definitely give you a call when I'm in town.

    Rick.
  • gmangrgmangr Posts: 4
    I have the opportunity to buy a 99 XJR with 28,000 miles with cd, car phone, etc, for $47,900. Any thoughts?
  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    Sooooo we should call you............Wild Bill????
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Cool!

    I'll see ya then! You driving or flying? If flying... I know a great cheap car rental place in town.

    Also, you can rent Jags from Budget and Hertz if ya wanna splurge :)

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Might be a good price might be a bad price.

    What color is it? And Where is it?

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    That works for me :)

    Bill
  • netranger4netranger4 Posts: 149
    Having taken the plant tour at Brown's Lane, Coventry in 1989, is this assembly plant where the new X series cars are assembled? At that time, the engine plant was in another area of Coventry over toward Meriden I believe. The bodies were trucked in from Pressed Steel Fisher in Castle Bromwich near Birmingham on BRG Leyland canvas covered trucks 3 or 4 at a time stored in a staging building and fed to the line as required. Brown's Lane is a very small plant which at that time was producing about 50 cars of all types per day on two shifts. Ford had a large plant in Bridgend, Wales which was building Escorts or Thames vans. Is this where the new X Series is being assembled?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    The X400s are being made in Merseyside (Liverpool area).

    The main Coventry plant makes the XJs and XKs... And the Ss are made in Birmingham (Halewood IIRC)

    Bill
  • ajaymeajayme Posts: 74
    Have any of you guys had any experience with this Jag reseller (http://www.texas-cars.com/). Their cars look very clean and they say that extended warranties are available. Their prices seem very good. I just wondered if they're legit. Thanks
  • gmangrgmangr Posts: 4
    It is black interior and exterior--which I think looks really cool--and is sold by a Lincoln/Mercury dealer in Michigan who often sells slightly used Jags. In fact, some other Jags he has on the lot right now include two black 99 XJ8s, a white 99 VP (for $45000), and a 2000 silver XJ8 (for $43000).
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Yup, good outfit. I know the guy who owns it... He goes all over the country to buy used Jags. Must be doing close to 100 a month...

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I'd certainly try and talk em down./...
    \
    However..

    There's a 2000 Black/Black XJR on eBay with 6800 miles for $48,900 "Buy it now" is the same price. Its' in Texas but so what? Have it shipped!

    www.ebaymotors.com

    Much better deal, at wholesale. The 99 XJR is below full-pop retail, but not a screaming deal.

    I'd rather see you chop $2K or so off the price of that R in Mich.

    Bill
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,406
    I saw one of these listed for sale by a local Jag dealer. Said it was a special order job. Could you really get one of these is '99 or was it a misprint? I have to admit that I could be tempted if it was certified. They were asking about $54K. I can't remember the mileage.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • netranger4netranger4 Posts: 149
    Thanks for the update on where the new X car is being built. Have you ever taken the Coventry plant tour? If not, try to do it. Those folks at Brown's Lane take a great deal of pride in what they build. As of 1989, each car got an 15 mile trip through the streets of Coventry before it was cleaned again and prepared for shipment. The guide on my tour said the only reason they used Lucas electricals is "because they're British".
    Thanks again for the information.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Wow,

    Yeah you could get them in 99. Rare as 1804 Silver dollars (almost). VERY uncommon car. Basically, each one was built to order and had everything. They have beautiful 17" Wheels. That's the only way to tell the car from the outside. (www.jaguar.co.uk... look for the UK section and search for a "Daimler Super V8" for more info).

    That is a Monster of a car. Also, was the only Jag sold in the 99 Model Year with CATS (This was pre S-Type and Pre-XKR). VERY Few imported, and they only showed up in Spring of 99. The car came out with little fanfare, and was not advertised.

    I think under 200 came in. I think I've mentioned before, my mother drives one. The Lease ends next Spring and we're buying it. I had to trade an XJR and an XK8 to get the car from another dealer. Sapphire Blue with Ivory. Unless you pop the hood or look at the wheels, it can't be told from a regular VDP. No external badging (Which was a complaint from buyers).

    $54K sounds fair to me I suppose. Black Book doesnt separate the car, and Manheim doesnt show a separate listing for the car. Also, in looking at recent auction sales I can't find any records of any 99 or 00 or 01s selling for more than typical money either.

    It's a VERY Rare car. This is a pretty rare opprotunity for you. I'd say buy it only because it a seriously amazing car.

    Now... How many miles? Color?

    $82,580 was the MSRP IIRC.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Been there...done that. I plan to go to to see the other plants ove the next few years.

    I'll get to it I suppose :)

    But Brown's Lane is a real institution.

    Bill
  • pluskinpluskin Posts: 79
    Just a couple of corrections and clarifications...

    The X-type plant in Merseyside is called the Halewood plant. This is indeed a former Ford Escort factory, which has undergone huge renovation and training of the workforce.

    Castle Bromwich in the Birmingham area, is where the S is produced, and is the body shop for the XK & XJ.

    Brown's Lane in the Coventry area, is very final trim & assembly of the XK & XJ is done.

    Whitley Engineering Centre is in Coventry as well, where all of Jag's product development is done.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I got em all confused...

    Bill
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ...... I think the dealer in
    Mi, is trying to put you asleep at $47,900.. I was in the Detroit auction on thursday..so I have a pretty good idea on what these "dudes" run..

    On wednesday I was at the Manheim in Pa, and 5 ran through -- 2 I bid on, 1 ruby red with 9K and the other "brave blue..?" with 11K both with all the stuff..perfect shape, with -day 1 records.. the blue sold at $39,800 and the ruby sold at $40,550 ---- So if you are truly interested in the one in Mi, I wouldn't be lookin' to spend much more than about $43,000 and some change..

    Nice clean low mileage Jags, are not breaking any records....it's not like they a rare..

    I hope this helps....

    Terry.
  • arcoatesarcoates Posts: 221
    The supercharged VDP is the ultimate car in my eyes. Classic Jaguar looks, the most opulent interior this side of a Rolls, and it can beat the pants off of anyone who thinks it's JUST a stately Jaguar. I would give anything for one. To those priveleged few, congrats on getting one of the greatest cars in the world~ A.R.
  • pluskinpluskin Posts: 79
    Bill,
    Its a bit easier for me to keep them all straight, since I work there
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    I do love the VDP interior indeed. But the additional room in the back to me somewhat negatively affects the near perfect esthetics of the XJ8. That is why, after much (and painful, because I loved my XJS convertible, but it was getting a tad long in the tooth) deliberation, I went for the XJR. The interior is not quite up to VDP coziness, but it has a 2+2 sportiness I like. And the driver's seats are more comfortable for someone over 6 feet (the base XJ8 seat seemed a bit short for my legs, the XJR's extra padding solves this).

    But the VDP SC indeed is fabulous.

    One thing that I love about the XJ8 platform is the "Baby Bentley" philosophy. Its shape oozes esthetics and tradition, its interior class, and yet it's probably less quirky and a better car to live with day to day (particularly in times where I am adjusting to living off my salary again, and no longer of my high-tech stock portfolio :-)

    Mind you, I still *love* Bentleys.
  • lucnoellucnoel Posts: 31
    I agree with Pablo regarding the lack of proportion on the longer wheelbase.
    I think that it is due to the fact that they only extended the back of the car and having doors/glass of od differents lengh look a little weird.
    I also,beside the fact that I am 6.3 prefer the style of the sport seat with the perforated leather look.
    From a interior point of view, the XJR have way too much Ambla/vynil,it is why that on my 2001 XJR, I replaced for less than $3000 the console,console extention,door pockets and armrests,console lid/cupholders with Autolux leather.
    I also added rear blinds,wood on the roof console and rear passenger adjust front seat.
    From a driver point of view, the XJR is THE better car, shorter weelbase, less weight,better suspension and bigger wheels and tires.

    What is a shame is that in the US, you cannot custom order a Jaguar.
    In England, you can have a VDP on the shorter wheelbase and from what I understand,if you are willing to pay and wait for it,you can built your car anyway you want.
    Also why can't we get in the states the Auto leveling headlamps,intrusion sensors,hood security switch,heated front windshield,and a bunch of other standard/optional features that are available in other parts of the world?
    Luc.

    To Pluskin.
    Do you know why Jaguar doesn't offer anymore the air particle/pollen filters kit part # JLM 20670?
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    Totally agree with lucnoel: the XJ's are such an individualist statement that it is a shame they can't be customorderd far more. I *totally* missed that possibility when I ordered my XJR. Al you could order was color and nav system, period. Not enough given the car's philosophy and the price bracket, in my humble opinion.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    It boils down to marketing.

    In the US, People wake up one day, decide to buy a jaguar, stroll down to the dealer, pick one out and drive it home.

    In Europe, most cars are ordered...

    The way things be in the US... They pretty much offer 90th percentile cars...

    Bill
  • pluskinpluskin Posts: 79
    Not really my area of expertise... Have you asked a dealer?
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