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Jaguar XJ-Series



  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    From what I have found...

    Could be one of two problems...

    1) Aforementioned dirty throttle. Heck, you could clean that yourself :)

    2) Defective throttle assembley.

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    check or eBay. Lotta jag pics. Turbine wheels arent common tho.

  • sikorski1sikorski1 Posts: 6
    I just bought a "98" JX8 from a used car dealer and my local Jaguar Dealer want $950.00 to install a CD Changer. Does anyone know where I can get one cheaper, need info on:/brand/install info/cost, ect.
  • arcoatesarcoates Posts: 221
    My god Bill, it is so fantastic to have you around. A jaguar man who gives out free advice, hopefully you don't start charging. Someone who actually knows what could be wrong, not just speculation. Thanks~ A.R.
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Check out message #279 above. That may answer your inquiry.

    Contrats on your "JX8". And don't feel bad, the price of my used 97 VDP went up by $1,000 when I asked them to install the CD changer before I bought it. Sounds great though!
  • sikorski1sikorski1 Posts: 6
    I see question #279 says the Alpine CD changer CHM-S620 will work in a "93" XJ, But will it also DIRECTLY plug into a "98" XJ8? I found one on the internet but, I would like to make sure it will work before ordering. Also, how does it mount? Is there a specific mounting bracket I need to get?
  • pathdocpathdoc Posts: 126
    After three relatively trouble free years in a XK8 convertible I purchased a 2001 XKR convertible. After a few days and less than 100 miles while accelerating from a stop sign the engine power dropped off and the "restricted Performance" message came on. I was able to drive home at reduced power. The next day it drove fine but I took it to the dealer where it sat for a week while they replaced the"throttle module". It was then fine for about 5 weeks and 700 miles. It just did it again and the car is back at the dealer. When I got home in the "Limp Mode" and turned off the engine and restarted it the warning message went out and it seemed to have normal power. I still haven't heard from the dealer yet. Has anyone had this problem with a XKR or XJR?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Unfortunately the only newer Jags that take an aftermarket plug-in CD Changer are the S-Types which take a Panasonic.

    The XJs and XKs would need an adapter, but the Jag market is too small for them to engineer one as far as I know.

    98+ you will need an OEM chagner I'm afraid. $950 installed is a fair price. Internal cost (Cost on changer+$50 for 1 hour of labor.. what the new car dept used to pay) for us used to be about $800 or so.. and that was 2 years ago.

    You could try calling around though. And you could do an "RF" CD CHanger, but then you have the ugly box next to your stereo head unit and they sound crappy.

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883

    That'll be $39.95 plus tax and handling fee. Cash or Visa/MC

    kidding... :)

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Doesnt ring a bell for me. Ask the dealer what the code you got was for (They do get stored in the engine management software).

    However, it could be a loose gas cap perhaps. Also, as you found out, oftentimes turning a Jag on and off gets it thinking clearly again.

    Also, and don't laugh.,. its' the truth.

    The people who run the snot out of their Jaguars seem to get the best service out of them. I have beaten the snot out of my Vanden Plas for 6 years. Lots of tires and brakes. Car still has leak-down compression results within new engine specs at 127,000 miles.

    Somethin to chew on.

    Enjoy the XKR.. I wish I fit in them...

    95 VDP
    97 XJ6
    99 XJR
  • lesliejoylesliejoy Posts: 62
    Bill, Thanks for the info.
    They diddn't get any codes from the computer and could not duplicate the problem.

    They did clean the throttle and replace the engine maintenance module, which they told me regulates the air and gas mixture.

    I will be picking up the car today. Hopefully, it will be fixed.
  • mvargo1mvargo1 Posts: 298
    Jag is notorious for using proprietary(sp?) plugs for the CD players and Phone Systems. This requires the use of the Jaguar parts. You might find a used CD changer somewhere outthere, but your best bet is to bite the bullet and pay the $900.
  • lucnoellucnoel Posts: 31
    My wife wants me to put a CD player in the 1988.
    Any idea what to use and how much work is involve?
    I know that the 88 are not pre-wired for it.
  • I am interested in purchasing a previously owned XJ8 coupe. 1997 is the first year they were introduced. I'd like to hear from anyone that owns a '97, '98, or '98 XJ8 on how their car is performing for them. Encountered any specific problems? High or low maintenance? Is one of those years better than the other, i.e., did they fix a "bug" from the previous year. Thanks!
  • sho3sho3 Posts: 28
    If you can get the pin-out for Jaguar plug
    you could make your own or have someone is
    make it and spliced in the plug from the changer
    of your choice.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I think it's a bit more than just the plug. Has o do with the wiring/electrical system on the newer cars.

    luc: I'd get a high-quality aftermarket head unit and changer... Cost is little more than the changer alone and the sound will be improved as well.

    bellavista: Only real bugaboo on the early (97) coupes is the window sealing mechanism can act up. Generally no major deal to fix tho. Dealer (or you) needs to "cycle" the windows...

    Outstanding cars.. also they use Pirelli P-Zeros which wear quickly and are pricey.

  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    There is some really great sharing of information going along our XJ Series Jag page. I have read new posts by new devotees every day.

    As I read your notes, I notice that quite a few of you are adding
    upgrades and enhancements to your Jags.
    Over the years, I have done some of the same.

    In doing so, I have come across a good place for Jag. parts, accessories and "neat" Jag items. They have been around for quite a while. (I am surprised that some of my Jag friends didn't know of them and this may be the same for you.)
    Those that have dealt with them have good things to say about them. My expierence, likewise, has been good. (Incidently, "I get no commissions".... am just passing along some helpful info. that I have found beneficial.)

    They are Welsh Jaguar Specialists located in Ohio and are able to be contacted at They put out a periodic flier with neat stuff... such as this last issues with "Dad's" Day Jaguar gift idea".... how about that guys ? We could just see that the brochure is put in a conspicuous place !

    Happy Jag'n around !
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    I thought they quit making XJ series coupes in 1975?
  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    Welcome to the "new car" Jaguar world.

    There is nothing like a new car.
    There is such pleasure being the first to sit behind the wheel and peel off the new car stickers.

    I recall a real pleasure I had when I was at the dealer when my "new baby" arrived on the truck. I recall watching as it was driven down from the carrier and parked in the sun. It gleamed and "beamed" as if to say: "Here I am... take me home and I am going to be a great friend".
    I thought as I admired "her" that it was the most beautiful automobile I had ever seen... she was!
    All this is a fond memory, as you can see.

    The point for most of us is that buying back a year or so can result in a great cash outlay savings advantage. The first year or so depreciation has already been peeled off and thus factored in. Moreover, there are so many great Jags now on the market, because of leasing, at "reasonable prices" it just seems the most cost effective way to go, not withstanding comments about "business tax advantages of leasing" to which I concur.

    But, for those who wish to buy, I still recommend a 1998 or newer XJ8 or XJR.
    I prefer to purchase one which has fairly low miles and has been given the dealer "Select Edition" certification. This raises the price over the "used car lot" models because it has undergone, perhaps, the best scrutiny and restoration on the market. In my opinion it is worth every "British Pound".
    After "Select Edition" 100 or so point treatment it really almost is a "new car" again. As a result, Jag feels no hesitation in extending its "new car" warrenty way out. On these cars, as on any expensive Euro with "pricy parts and labor", an extended warrenty is a good deal.... particularly this one.

    Happy Jaguar motoring..... you will have bought a great automobile.

  • christchurchchristchurch Posts: 125
    Inspite of my advice in the previous post, a friend has asked advice on a 1997 XJ6 which he describes as "first class all the way".

    Model XJ6
    Year: 1997
    Condition: very good to excellent - no dings, scratches, blems noticeable
    Color: Dark Red metallic - good to excellent paint
    Inferior: light ivory - immaculate
    mileage: 43,600

    1)What is your advice on this car?
    2)What price would be the buying range?
    3)Advice on this "last of the xj6 motor editions?
    4)Reliability of this car?
    5)Add an extended warrenty? If so, what kind and at what price?
    6)Any further advice?

    I appreciate your expertise and advice that I might pass it along and "keep him as a friend".

    Jags forever!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883

    That car sounds like its' Carnival Red over Oatmeal. I happen to have its' identical twin in my driveway as we speak that just turned over 60K miles.



    It's been a flawless car since purchase.

    Few things to check... aside from the obvious.. Make sure that the power adjustment on the steering column works properly. They can fail, and chances are that this car is out of warranty (Well, it's got a 1 in 4 chance, roughly, of still being under factory warranty). This is a $400 or so repair. Also make sure you dont hear a rattle at startup, if so you need to do a timing chain tensioner update to get rid of the noise. If its' not under the campaign.. expect $400 or so there IIRC.

    As far as a warranty... if its's available with a select edition by a Jag dealer.. add at least $2K to my prices. Otherwise, pass. I'm not personally a fan of them, but people's tastes differ. I do know that they are at LEAST $2,000.

    Pricing onthe car is easy... I don't see a record of that particular car being sold at auction recently, but its' worth roughly $19-20K wholesale and I'd peg its' retail value at $3-4K over that.

    Shoot for $22K, but I don't see going over $24,000. Obviously, first offer ought to be closer to $20K.. who knows. If its' a private seller, they tend to have grossly inflated ideas of the cars' worth.

    Hope this helps!

  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    I have just purchased a '99 VDP (one owner, Texas car) with 34k for my wife. The car was purchased via the internet (big leap for us). One of the things that gave us confidence in the VDP was this forum. Jaguars are beautiful cars with owners who are passionate about owning them.
    The homework I did on the car revealed a few issues I would appreciate any feedback on.
    I spoke with the dealership who performed all of the warranty service on the car. A niggle here, a niggle there, but one issue seemed to be the "air bag" warning light. It was repaired in 2000 but re surfaced at the "certifcation" inspection after the car was traded in (different dealership).
    The other somewhat troubling information was that the previous owner complained of a "transmission noise" in 2000 that the dealership couldn't reproduce. This problem was not mentioned by the dealership that performed the "Certification" inspection.
    The "Certification" inspection showed that the car needed new front pads and rotors and some duct work under the skid plate (from driving on to a parking stopper). I asked why the car was not accepted for certification. He explained that the cost of bringing the car to "Certified" level coupled with the high trade-in cost may have made the profit margin unattractive to the dealership.
    I had the car inspected by a third dealer before purchasing and he mentioned the duct work but said the car was gorgeous otherwise (no mention of the "airbag" light).
    All three said the car was never hit.
    My local Jaguar service center is ready to do the 30K service and the other work.
    I elected to buy the car even with this info because and all of the service managers said that the issues were not major ones and I saved 10k to 15k on the purchase. The car is being shipped to us this week.
    Are brakes a problem on the VDP?
    Any suggestions if the "airbag" light reappears?
    What "transmission noise" should I be listening for?
    Can I still "Certify" the car or purchase a warranty extention after the 4 year 50k runs out?

    Thanks in advance.
  • sikorski1sikorski1 Posts: 6
    I just bought a used 98 XJ8 (31000 miles) and the brakes are squeaking most of the time upon stopping. What would your concerns be if you were me and how much should it cost to fix?
  • lesliejoylesliejoy Posts: 62
    When I bought my 1998 XJ8L a month ago, the brakes squeaked also. Brought it to a dealer repair shop. It needed new front brake pads.
    Cost approx $200 with labor.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883

    Congrats! What color? As far as the airbag light... Who's to say, but stuff like that is usually a minor problem. I wouldnt be overly concerned. Trannys are not a problem, maybe the PO (Previous owner) was too.. umm... well, maybe they were "overpicky".

    He explained that the cost of bringing the car to "Certified" level coupled with the high trade-in cost may have made the profit margin unattractive to the dealership.

    Sounds like BS to me. Also, those trays under the front bumper are always being replaced. I've ripped mine off a bunch of times :)

    As far as the warranty, adding an extended is usually expensive, I don't think that its' possible to add a Select to the car.

    Brakes: These cars are very heavy and suck through pads somewhat frequently. Common problem. Probably why sikorski has squeaky brakes.

  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    Topaz w/ Ivory. It's a beautiful car. We were test driving a LS400 when my wife saw a XJ and said "that's still what I want".
    We had driven a few XJ's but the dealership was "uncooperative" price-wise. We don't have a formal Jaguar dealership here but the local Lincoln Mercury dealer is trying hard to get one by stocking 4 to 8 used (ahem....pre-owned) cars from California. They are an authorized service center now.
    I kind of suspect your comment about the "certified" inspection is correct, although I hear the market for upper end cars in Texas (and many other places) is very soft....with tight margins.
    I'll probably shy away from a extended warranty depending on the near term experience with the car. I hope to get by with the $200.00 Leslie mentioned (thanks) for the brakes, that would be great.
    Being an owner of a few older British cars, we'll try to stay away from "parking stops".
    By the way, I looked up "National Flags" and could not find the exact flag posted with your correspondence. Which of the British territories is your residence?

  • sho3sho3 Posts: 28
    I notice on the internet that alot of Texas
    Dealerships sale Jaguars online. With the
    heavy rains and severe flooding in Texas
    should Texas dealers be avoided? Besides Carfax
    is there any other way to check for flood
    damage ?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Welcome to Town Hall! Trust NO one's flag around here. ;-> The flag comes from the country of residence selected in one's profile - many folks decide where they "live" based on what flag they think is attractive.

    You can see the country of origin for a flag by holding your cursor over the flag itself for a few seconds.

    Good luck and again, welcome.

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  • vusicvusic Posts: 53
    I'm not sure of any other way besides Carfax. I'd be careful until their data base is updated after recent events. I've been calling the dealer and the shipper to make sure we're in the clear. So far so good.
    I scoured the internet for, what hopefully was, the best deal. For some reason Texas is a competitive market. The dealer I purchased from had 99.5% positive comments on E-bay. My experience with them was very pleasant. The real verdict will occur when the car arrives on Friday.
    My auto-body person says that the main thing to watch out for in Texas cars is the interior baking in the sun. Try to make sure the car was garaged. Same applies to Southern Cal.
    Also, thanks for the tip Pat.

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Ahh, Topaz is the most valuable color for that car! That and White.

    As far as where the cars come from, if you bought it from TX Mustang sales, he buys at Jaguar Credit auctions all over the country. I know him from the auctions (Im a dealer) and he's picky about what he buys too.

    Few of his cars originally came from TX I can tell ya :)

    sho, CarFax is an excellent way of checking for flood damage.

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