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1) Anthracite/Cashmere 00. 17K miles. Paintwork on hood (WHich I did to fix bug marks). Otherwise flawless. I paid like $45K for it and sold it for $49,500
2) Sapphire/Ivory 99. 34K miles. No Paintwork, few stone chips, one wheel had road rash. Oerall though, clean car but prevbious owner was light smoker. Paid $38K, Sold it for $41,500.
And you say that they want $59,900 for that car?
I could see it doing $40-42K "to the moon" wholesale... Maybe $2K in recon if it needs rubber... Another $900 or sofor the SE Warranty... Shoot.. $45K in it... MAYBE $49,950... but I dont see $59K
Either:
A) They are very greedy
or
C) They have no idea how to appraise trade-ins.
Bill
$49,900?
They can park it next to that $59,900 VDP S/C and have a pair of matching boat anchors
Unless there's a $14K+ wad of cash in the glovebox...there will be few calls methinks...
Nice 98 XJRs are in the $31-33K range with low miles in the right color across the block, so figure private party retail oughta be no more than $35-36K... Shoot, and its' Carnival Red too. $34K really is the # for private-party retail. More if its' Anthracite or Silver (Anthracite is a good color on XJRs... They can be opposites valuewise of the rest of the range when it comes to color)
Bill
I'm too friendly with people who speak up at dinner meetings and nominate people
Ought to be fun tho, I am psyched. So, will some of you guys in the Southeast come to our concours or events next year?
Has anyone heard this? Thanks. Stan in San Diego.
XJSs used either a Dana rear-end or a shoot.. I forget the name but some English brand rear.
It may well use a Dana-Spicer rear end (The LS that is) but I dunno if its; the same as an XJS.
I'm not sure any of the newer XJs even use an LSD what with traction control and all... Last one I thought was the 94 VDP/XJ12.
You might want to trry jag-lovers.org or jagtalk.com
Bill
I still like the Carnival the best.
Bill always says the Topaz is THE color, but...
Somebody please toss in their opinions. I'm paralyzed by indecision.
IIRC, he evn points out how he finds BRG to be among the best and classiest looking, but among the lowest resale value.
For those that love BRG, it's great. They'll be able to save quite a bit when buying a used XJ.
Personally, I also like Carnival...on an XJS. ;-)
I was talking values! 96 VDP? Me? Morocco Red. For Inventory? Morocco Red vs Topaz? I'd have to be a dummy to buy the Morocco Red.
BRG? I love it. But a very bad color for resale value compared to Topaz. Carnival is pretty good (Weird, because if I ever bought a Burgandy MB S or E-Class or 5/7 series BMW I'd have my head examined).
Rayh3: You CAN Get a BRG Vanden Plas. $1,000 upcharge for a special order color. We ordered Meteorite (Silver), BRG and Mistral Blue VDPs in 1998. $1,000 upcharge. They all sold. Qucikly.
We also ordered a Carnival/Cashmere VDP and a Sherwood Green XJR for customers.
Bill
I've been away for a couple of days, but I have an update. Someone (but not everybody) there apparently has a grip on reality, because an ad for this car showed up in the newspaper with a price of $48,900. The next time I was in the area of the dealer I dropped in to have a look at the car in daylight. It still had $59,900 on the window. The salesman claimed ignorance about the ad, but said that it was 'on sale this weekend'. I have to decide if I am interested enough to shovel my way to the truth. Meanwhile, in looking at the car, I noticed that the pinstriping along the tops of the doors was coming off. The salesman said that it must have been an aftermarket job, because Jags don't come that way. Was he right or was he just unloading another truckfull? Thanks in advance for your insight.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Pinstripes are aftermarket on US Jags. "Coachlines" are available in Europe only..
$48,900 is getting closer to reality...
What dealer?
Bill
I'd love to
I already passed on one GSM Job this year at a Jag store. Besides, I have vowed to never live in California!
Yes. Yopu can do special orders. Also mix-and-match interior colors.
I.E. Say you want a.. ohh... Anthracite/Oatmeal or Anthracite Ivory..etc...
Or maybe you want a Sapphire/Charcoal.
Bill
Bill
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Bill
If you see anything at the auction, please let me know. You know what I like. ;-)
Will keep eyes open.
Enjoy said Beer...
Bill
The 59is going to be restored.
The 60 is the only roadworthy LHD one in the USA
Bill
If Bill doesn't get me my supercharged VDP,
What would you prefer, an XJ8, and XJ8L, or a Vanden Plas? And what is a reasonable price spread between them, ( '00 model year, good color, same mileage (for comparison's sake)).
I would prefer the extra space in the L, but at what cost?
I mean they did import like 300 of them ;-)
Saw one today... 00.. Topaz.. Paintwork all over the front end tho
I'll post some of the latest Jaguar Credit post-sales here tomorrow...
Bill
Thanks.
Unfortunately, depreciation is the watch word for any newer Jag. If your looking "invest" in a Jaguar with fiscal appreciation in mind, better go back at least 30 years (or be prepared to wait 25 years for that XKR to bounce back).
We drove an XJR when shopping for our Jag this year. The performance was fantastic, but I found the interior a bit austere for a "family" Jaguar. If it were strictly my car, the XJR is a near perfect automobile, but we decided the VDP was the way to go. The VDP's performance is still astounding given the level of the car's luxury.
A late model "used" Jaguar is probably a better investment anyway.
I actually have one. Remember?
I gotta take a pic of it. But yes, it is a screaming evil monster.
Bill
I'll take one. But, I'm not paying a penny over $82K. You salesmen think you're so slick! ;-)
What about suspension, etc? More like the XJR or VDP?
Ride is not as firm as the XJR's and tires not as big. Mine just got a fresh set of 235-50ZR17 P6000s
They, obviously, use 17" Wheels.
It was also the first Jag in the US to be available with CATS (Active suspension)
Gary's is Sapphire Blue over Ivory. Since he just offered $82K for it he now owns it
Bill
However, Jonah Brown has pretty much made it clear that myself and several others are not wanted here in Town Hall.
So, as such, I am bidding this forum goodbye for the time being. I'll be around, but won't actively post any longer.
If you need me, I can be reached via e-mail at directautogroup@aol.com
Take care guys!
Bill Weismann
I can't believe that humor and knowledge are considered undesirable here on TH.
I cannot imagine a Jaguar XJ forum without you.
BTW, who is Jonah Brown?
Before you go, what was the reason given? I've seen some horribly rude and mean-spirited members here, of which you guys are never a part. I also see some heated discussions, of which I am often a part. ;-)
I don't think I've personally seen anything posted by you two that would warrant such treatment.
AAMOF, Bill has been the premier source of knowledge on Jaguar related things, AND one of the top sources for insight into sales practices.
It's a crying shame.
I SINCERELY doubt they will listen/give a hoot
Bill
He's a piece of work, that one.
Bill
Bill (and others), I suggest you create a new screen name.
These boards are open to the public to post. If Edmunds attempts to discriminate, then it must block ALL participants.
I know when I am not wanted and, basically, know when to leave.
Jonah is the manager of Town Hall
Sorry guys...
Bill