There is an Anthracite 2000 SC Vanden Plas on Ebay (about 28k miles). No reserve, bidding around $39k. Owner started bidding at 35k. With no reserve, one could conceivably walk away with it for a steal. What do you think the catch is? It couldn't go that cheaply, could it?
He could always cancel the auction before the end time, if he sees it isn't gonna fetch his price. He can shill bids. He may have gotten it cheap. Is it salvage or some other unusual title?
After I posted, I tracked down that info. I knew you'd know what it was, but I couldn't wait. I'm an "Inconsiderate Inquirer". ;-)
I wonder why they don't make them? I'm sure they'd sell quite a few. I think there is definitely a market for a high-end luxury convertible. People buy CLK430's, don't they?
It is a beautiful car. That is what alot of people are after but all they make are bubble car convertibles or the Chrysler Sebring. Which is quite boring if I do say so myself, and not to say far from high-end luxury. I would love to see those on the street. We live and die for a nice convertible here in MN, especially when we have a 5 month summer, if that!!
Beautiful automobile. Did all the '95's have the brightwork all the way across the front bumper? What kind of structural adjustments would you have to make on your VDP Bill?
Bill, the car has 120k miles on it. Go to Sears, buy one chainsaw, one welding torch, and a quart of touch-up paint. A few hundred bucks and you're all set for the job.
I defer to Bill on bargain basement pricing, but if it stays in the range it's in now (13.5K), it's a great deal. I'll be interested to see where it ends up. Holding out for traction control and heated seats depends on your latitude. I'm guessing it's cold where you are now. I bought a VDP out of Texas this summer with no heated seats. We had our first real winter storm the other day and the seats were not an issue for us, although the Anti Skid Control is very useful. The color of the bid car is beautiful, I also like the wheels. Good fortune on the bidding if you decide to do so.
Thru 1/02/20, Jaguar has a special lease promotion for Jaguar XJ8s @ $799 p/mo. for 42 mos., w/ security deposit and 1st month's payment waived. SW Fl. Dealer advises that promotion only allows a dealer profit of $2000. Therefore, no extras. Has anyone been able to do better (i.e., an XJ8L for the same lease rate, or included extras, such as 320 audio or nav system or at least free scheduled maintenance)? Interested in British racing green or possibly platinum.
Your dealer was right. It's a great rate at 799/mo on an XJ8 and the profit is so small they will not be throwing in any extras. Your dealer should have informed you that all 2002 Jaguars include free scheduled maintenance for the whole 4/50k warranty period. Remember that payment is with only about $1100 total out of pocket. The XJ8L has been discontinued for 2002 but the big news is that for the same payment you can get an XJSport (about 3k more than standard XJ8) with only about $1200 total drive off. Drive off costs are for So. Cal so you'd have to check with your dealer to see if there the same.
Yes, the XJ8 is a short deal, all of the current special leases except 3.0L X-Types are pretty short. Is it $2,000 over I don't remember (and don't feel like walking over to the office right now), but it is pretty short.
My error on the included scheduled maintenance on the Jaguar XJ8; that info clearly is in the brochure and should have been picked up by me.
Considering the included scheduled maintenance, does it make any sense, other than to speed up the transaction, to go directly to a dealer who has the desired car (i.e., color) rather than use your local dealer who you expect to service the vehicle?
There are several 96 & 97 xj6's on ebay that are v12's. It seems to me that the 12's go for less than a similar model with the 4 liter 6. Doesnt make sense to me unless something is wrong with the 12's in general.
Re the lease question - Jaguar is currently offering $499 a month with 2k down for 42 months on the 2002 S series, is there a catch somewhere? Seems like one heck of deal to drive a brand new S series!
XJ12s were made from 1995-1996 inthe new Bodystyle.
While more than a VDP new, and the same inside except they had a V12...
Theyre worth less now.
I just bought a 96 XJ12 with 80K on it.,... White.. super clean.. for $12,500. Car was traded in on a Caddy. No way am I gonna buy a WHite 96 VDP with 80K on it for that unless its a pig.
Sold it the next day, but sold it cheap as usual with a 12... Gas mileage is atrocious.. theyre fast and all.. but.. the XJ6/VDP/XJ6L ought to suffice.
S-type lease is a great deal, but it is so good that is very hard to find the base model 3.0L. So you a most likely looking at a $540-550 payment for a Premium pkg or premium/weather pkg car. Which is still a great deal
Hi all. I'm considering buying a 95 XJ-6 (non-VDP). It's lightly driven (63K miles) and appears to have been very well cared for. Is there anything about this model year I should be aware of, quality/reliability issues, etc.?
I was gonna advertise it for $39K.. but then I get the car, first day its outside.. doesnt even have a for sale sign on it, guy stops, goes.. "Is that a Supercharged Vanden Plas? Is it for sale?"
"Well, not really.. its my car.. Im not trying to sell it"
So he asks me about it, I tell him..etc.
"Wait, what if I offered you the same price that I missed one for at a Jag dealer, I'll give ya $53,500 for it"
(Now I think, if I say no Im a complete retard)
"OK, I'll sell it"
"Great, will a $5,000 deposit check, I SWEAR its good hold it till tomorrow until I can bring you a cashier's check?"
(Wait.. this is a practical joke Im thinking)
"Sure, no problem"
Next AM hes waiting with a cashier's check!
Umm.. If I handt deposited the check and had him sign the title.. Im not sure Id belive it myself!
You're one lucky SOB. It's karma. That's what you get for not being a sleazy, lying, sack o' crap style of car salesman/dealer. I'll still take a beer. None of that hoity toity stuff for me! ;-)
I bought a new 2001 XJR in May,and after reading all the 2001 Jaguar brochures and/or Web sites,I saw that the interior and specifically the console is described,for the XJ8 and XJR, as "trimmed with Connoly leather".
Well,if you look closely at the interior, only the "seating surfaces" and hand brake handle are made of leather,all the rest,including the console is made of vynil/ambla.
To make a long story short,after numerous letter and call to Jaguar,they first proposed to "buy-back" my XJR and finally agree to replace at no cost to me ALL the interior trim with REAL leather. Console Console top/cup holder Rear console extension Hand brake gaiter Doors pockets (4) Doors armrest (4) Console ashtray.
Must be at least $ 5k in parts.
Just wanted to let you know,because if you bought a 2001 XJ8 or XJR new,this "false/mis-leading" advertising apply to your cars too.
The issue was/is that if you sell a car,representing that the interior,including the console,is made/trimmed with leather,it is what you should get. Not vynil/ambla.
I do have this proposition (buy-back) and the replacement of vynil/ambla parts with real leather,in writting, from someone pretty close to Jaguar NA President.
You will also notice that for the 2002 models,Jaguar changed the description of the interior for the XJ8 and XJR,on it's brochures and Web sites,from "Interior trimmed with Connoly leather" to " Leather seating Surfaces"
The ride on an XJR should not be harsh in the least. $41.5K seems about the right starting price if they were select edition Jags. The last 2 XJR's we had on our lot were 98's and I sold them both (guess it helps to sell them when you love the cars). They had between 39-45K miles and retailed for $38,995 each (one white onyx and one anthracite). Ours were also select edition cars (certified 6yr/100k warranty and 3.9% financing). I may have a 99 Super 8 VDP in Topaz coming in this week (no Bill it's not your car). Drop me an email if your interested.
Is that Topaz Super 8 coming out of Thousand Oaks CA? If so, I looked at it repeatedly over several weeks on the lot. Almost talked myself into buying it. Still don't know why I didn't, except that in So. Cal, you maximize the number of convertibles that you have, and I already have one sedan. It was a close call, however, and I'm still not certain that I made the right decision.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
I buy close to 50 Jags a month.. and I get a chance to buy a VDP S/C MAYBE 4 times a year. And everyone out there knows I want them (I have a client who is an independent dealer in Chicago who, for some reason, will buy EVERY SINGLE ONE he can find).
I sell him 3-4 XJRs a month as an example. Hes POd at me now as I've only found him 2 in the past 3 weeks!
In other words, if you want one.. buy it. Not to sound like a salesman.. but.. you just almost never get the chance. Jaguar Credit corp has 18 in their lease portfolio from what I was told.
Thats the car, my sales manager is old time Jaguar guy (he's even British) and knows most of the folks around. We're going to buy the car for one of our local clients who was interested in it, he changed his mind but we still want the car. I also have a new Super 8 VDP inbound (plat/Ivory).
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Owner started bidding at 35k. With no reserve, one could conceivably walk away with it for a steal. What do you think the catch is? It couldn't go that cheaply, could it?
He can shill bids.
He may have gotten it cheap.
Is it salvage or some other unusual title?
I didn't know they could cancel for that reason. That would be pretty low if he did.
Shoot.. I dunno. Miles are a touch heavy for an 00.
Its clean I assume? I think its gotta be a $40K wholesale car.
Bill
Sometimes these dont sell at auction for much over a regular VDP..
An Anthracite 00 VDP with 23K recently did $39,700 in st louis but you guys say 28K...
Bill
The high bidder seemed to be a Jaguar Dealer in Louisville at $39,100.
That ,ay tell you something
Bill
I already got one
I dont like those wheels myself though. They look like tacky crap to me.
Still, I think you can get you a deal here..
Bill
Have you ever seen one of these? What is it? It's gorgeous!
Convertible
I found it in the middle of the F-type brochure on Jag-Lovers. It's certainly no F-type.
Funny you should mention that... Its what I am seriously considering doing to my 95 VDP.
It was a show car from 1995 and has birdseye maple wood trim. It does not have a drivetrain.
It is now owned by the Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust (JDHT) and is in their collection.
I've seen it and it is gorgeous.
Bill
I wonder why they don't make them? I'm sure they'd sell quite a few. I think there is definitely a market for a high-end luxury convertible. People buy CLK430's, don't they?
Did all the '95's have the brightwork all the way across the front bumper?
What kind of structural adjustments would you have to make on your VDP Bill?
DC
God only knows. A cross-brace on the floor, stronger rocker panels (sills in British), strengthening the bulkhead behind the rear seats..
In Other Words.. we're looking at $20K to do it right.
Bill
Im figuring chopping the top... reinforcing the bodyshell.. lengthening the front doors, and welding filling in the rears.
The real expense is the top mechanism... Which it would pay to make manual vs Power.
Bill
Although I wanted to hold out for traction control and heated seats
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=598443822
Holding out for traction control and heated seats depends on your latitude. I'm guessing it's cold where you are now.
I bought a VDP out of Texas this summer with no heated seats. We had our first real winter storm the other day and the seats were not an issue for us, although the Anti Skid Control is very useful.
The color of the bid car is beautiful, I also like the wheels.
Good fortune on the bidding if you decide to do so.
DC
1) I know that seller. Very good guy He's in Atlanta I do believe.
2) Good color combo as well. Sapphire Blue is a good'un.
3) Car would do close to $15K at a dealer auction... soo.. even $17K is stilla cheap deal on it. I say it'll end up around $16,500-17,500.
I sold a 96 VDP on eBay last month for $17,895 with 73K on it. However, it was Topaz with Creme interior (worth a solid $1,000+ More)
See what it does tho.. car could go cheap. Could go high..
Bill
Advertised Lease specials are usually pretty cheap deals actually ($2K over invoice on a new XJ8 is a pretty cheap deal actually).
Ray and Mike are still on the New Jaguar side, they may know better.
Bill
Considering the included scheduled maintenance, does it make any sense, other than to speed up the transaction, to go directly to a dealer who has the desired car (i.e., color) rather than use your local dealer who you expect to service the vehicle?
Failing that, car ought to be easy to find.
Bill
than a similar model with the 4 liter 6. Doesnt make sense to me unless something is wrong
with the 12's in general.
Re the lease question - Jaguar is currently offering $499 a month with 2k down for 42 months on the 2002 S series, is there a catch somewhere? Seems like one heck of deal to drive a brand new S series!
While more than a VDP new, and the same inside except they had a V12...
Theyre worth less now.
I just bought a 96 XJ12 with 80K on it.,... White.. super clean.. for $12,500. Car was traded in on a Caddy. No way am I gonna buy a WHite 96 VDP with 80K on it for that unless its a pig.
Sold it the next day, but sold it cheap as usual with a 12... Gas mileage is atrocious.. theyre fast and all.. but.. the XJ6/VDP/XJ6L ought to suffice.
And yes, the S-Type has a great lease on it!
Bill
1) Power steering column, does the tilt motor work?
2) Does the key work in the trunk (Important if youre up north as salt can cause the keyhole to lock up).
Hmm.. what else.. Groaning noise on startup (timing chain tensioner, but there was a recall/campaign for this I do believe).
Uhh.,... hmm... Everything oughta work I hope. Cupholders can break but thats like $50.
Shoot. Not a lot really. Theyre awesome cars.
Bill
95 VDP 132K
Sold the SC (RB you dont wanna know what I was offered for it)
Ok, tell me.
I was offered that.
Bill
I didnt feel like High-Grossing you
I was gonna advertise it for $39K.. but then I get the car, first day its outside.. doesnt even have a for sale sign on it, guy stops, goes.. "Is that a Supercharged Vanden Plas? Is it for sale?"
"Well, not really.. its my car.. Im not trying to sell it"
So he asks me about it, I tell him..etc.
"Wait, what if I offered you the same price that I missed one for at a Jag dealer, I'll give ya $53,500 for it"
(Now I think, if I say no Im a complete retard)
"OK, I'll sell it"
"Great, will a $5,000 deposit check, I SWEAR its good hold it till tomorrow until I can bring you a cashier's check?"
(Wait.. this is a practical joke Im thinking)
"Sure, no problem"
Next AM hes waiting with a cashier's check!
Umm.. If I handt deposited the check and had him sign the title.. Im not sure Id belive it myself!
Bill
That's almost $15K more than you thought you'd be seeing. The next beer's on you, pal.
Try Louis XIII!
I had $24K in it! =O =O
Which, as we well know, was a fortune below its market value tho.
I split the "overfunding" with mom.
Bill
I'll still take a beer. None of that hoity toity stuff for me! ;-)
But owning it $17,000 or so back of reality didnt hurt either.
Still... man she was sweet...
I regret selling it. And rb, that's why you didnt get an e-mail.. No way I'd ever live down a thirty-pounder in Town Hall!
Thanks for the compliment too
Everyone else is crying!
Bill
Well,if you look closely at the interior, only the "seating surfaces" and hand brake handle are made of leather,all the rest,including the console is made of vynil/ambla.
To make a long story short,after numerous letter and call to Jaguar,they first proposed to "buy-back" my XJR and finally agree to replace at no cost to me ALL the interior trim with REAL leather.
Console
Console top/cup holder
Rear console extension
Hand brake gaiter
Doors pockets (4)
Doors armrest (4)
Console ashtray.
Must be at least $ 5k in parts.
Just wanted to let you know,because if you bought a 2001 XJ8 or XJR new,this "false/mis-leading" advertising apply to your cars too.
Luc.
Shoot. I cant think of many cars that have "full" leather interiors..
Newer VDPs and XJ12s.. Bentleys.. Rolls Royces.. hmm
VERY few.
Bill
The issue was/is that if you sell a car,representing that the interior,including the console,is made/trimmed with leather,it is what you should get. Not vynil/ambla.
I do have this proposition (buy-back) and the replacement of vynil/ambla parts with real leather,in writting, from someone pretty close to Jaguar NA President.
You will also notice that for the 2002 models,Jaguar changed the description of the interior for the XJ8 and XJR,on it's brochures and Web sites,from "Interior trimmed with Connoly leather" to " Leather seating Surfaces"
Luc.
By the way, had my first ride in the XJR today. '98, 39k miles, and the asking was $41.5
Yikes!
Plus the ride was so harsh, it rattled over every expansion joint, as did my teeth.
Maybe they're supposed to be like that?
Heck, it was that and the XJ12.. those were the only ones.
Truth be told, I never did pay that much attention to the brochures
Bill
And they should ride smoothly!
I'm driving an 00 Platinum one right now, and it has a very nice ride (Well, maybe it'd be harsh if you camne out of a 77 TOwn Car lol!)
Ray, not the one I had, eh? Hmm...
Weird. Wait, mine was an 00, yours a 99?
RB.. I'd call Ray, I havent seen another one nationwide in 2 months.
Bill
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
I buy close to 50 Jags a month.. and I get a chance to buy a VDP S/C MAYBE 4 times a year. And everyone out there knows I want them (I have a client who is an independent dealer in Chicago who, for some reason, will buy EVERY SINGLE ONE he can find).
I sell him 3-4 XJRs a month as an example. Hes POd at me now as I've only found him 2 in the past 3 weeks!
In other words, if you want one.. buy it. Not to sound like a salesman.. but.. you just almost never get the chance. Jaguar Credit corp has 18 in their lease portfolio from what I was told.
Bill