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Acura MDX 2007

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  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    Anything you could possibly want to know about the new MDX. Colors included.
  • I am interested in the 07 MDX possibly even though I have an 06 Subaru B9 Tribeca. MPG is an important issue. I will only want to switch to the MDX if it is equal or better then the Tribeca.

    I would prefer a hybrid but the only 2 hybrid mid size suv are the highlander and lexus rx400h which my parents already have adn dont want the same as them.

    so the best non hybrid mid size suv mpg would be good.

    already i'm not crazy about the styling of the mdx if it looks like rdx though pics look a little better and will have to see in person. Mostly interested for the superior tech and the increased horsepower etc (250 for the Tribeca, 300 for the MDX?) but now i hear the nav is not touch screen but rather joystick so that is a concern, though it is voice activated so might make up for not being touchscreen now.

    but if the mpg is worse then teh tribeca then its not worth the hp it has over the tribeca. the other benefit was the price i might get when my wife gets a TL if we get at same time from same dealer. but her lease up in jan and 07 mdx will prob still be too new and no good deals quite yet.

    I was thinking about the Audi Q7 but it might be actually too big and i saw someone here say Q5, was that juat a typo or are they calling the v6 version Q5? i'm afraid it will be the same case as the VW Touareg where the V8 was too expensive and too much of a gas guzzler while the v6 wasn't enough for the heavy vehicle, which with the Q7 being larger i would think is the same problem though i think its a stronger v6. I'm just worried that coming from a Subaru with the industries best AWD, that the only thing that will be equal is Audis AWD.

    Also someoen said why get a Lexus LS when you can get a camry xle. LS is much bigger you might have been thinking Lexus ES based on teh camry. I see the arguement in that a lot of these models are rebadged luxury version of their non luxury make vehicle.

    That is one thing i always didn't like about the MDX that it was just slight luxury version of the Honda Pilot. But, you get Acura for the technology that they seem to be best at. The Acura TL while being basedon the accord platform was consumer reports #1 car in its segment and you may think you are just paying for luxury options on an accord but the whole thing that seemed great with the TL was how much was standard.

    I just dont understand why Acura hasn't made any hybrid versions considering honda has hybrids and even honda hasn't made a hybrid suv yet. Hybrid MDX would be great and finally compete with the Highlander nad Lexus RX400h.
  • The Audi Q5 is a midsize SUV do out in the Spring of 2008. Suppose to have either a 4 or 6 cylinder engine. Additional details on Edmonds Inside Line...Future Vech...SUV
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    will people pay more just because it has Acura stamped on it? of course. will people pay more more for a toyota with lexus stamped on it? yes. It's all about image!
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    Q7 may be big, but mdx will be marketed as more of a Q7/Gl fighter because of third row. and if you look at interior space, leg room, cargo room, MDX beats Q in any direction. and almost as much power.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    And most importantly, the MDX will beat the Q7 in reliability.
  • I also have the new brochure as well. Don't forget the ride and drive for CA dealers is today and tomorrow for the dealers sales people. They mostly recieved Silver color MDX's. I did see the Nimbus Grey as well. The car is very nice on the interior. Plenty of leg and head room. The dash looks terrific and the faux wood looks pretty convincing. The car looks much better in person then in photographs. From what I was told, the car should be arriving at dealer showrooms by October 15-17th. All dealers know what they have coming in initially. Don't believe them when they say they don't know what MDX's are coming in on their first allocation. The dealers now are ordering cars for Novembers allocation. I've had several high end SUV's these past few years and I predict the MDX will do extremely well. I've had an Rx330, Fx35, Murano and 2006 ML350. I also had purchased a new Q7 this past June which turned out to be a nightmare of a vehicle. Audi bought my car back after just having it less then 3 weeks. It went into the shop after 2 days. The vehicle doesn't even drive that well. To much vibration noise that eminates from the steering wheel. The A/C doesn't get cold enough and too many electrical issues. I'm looking forward to getting my MDX next month. I've already ordered mine, fully loaded.
  • I have some information for you. The Q7 is a beautiful looking vehicle. The interior is probably superior in fit and finish over anything that's out there. The big problem is this vehicle is not a reliable SUV. I bought a new one when they first came out back in June. I had electrical problems with the car the day I left the dealership. It went back into Audi two days after I purchased the vehicle. The car sat there for over 2 1/2 weeks. They still couldn't figure out the issues. I decided I didn't want the car and asked for my money back. The dealer I dealt with was terrific and had no issues of returning all my money back on the Q7. What was disappointing was the fact that Audi of America could care less about my issue with their new vehicle and had informed me that under no circumstance am I to recieve my money back and that they would fix the car and too bad to me. I was shocked about how they could care less about their customers. I would never buy and Audi again. They are done in my book. There are plenty of other issues with the Q as well but I'm not here to write a documentary on that car. Stick with the Japanese cars. They are more reliable, better and still fun to drive. I saw and sat in the new MDX the other day. The car is really amazing in person. Very impressed. I think the new MDX will give the new BMW X5 a huge run for the money. It's all about how you feel about a name. It's just a name. Remember, most cars these days almost all cost the same amount of money. Don't think that if you drive a Mercedes that it's going to have better resale then a simple Toyota product. You will lose you'r butt on the Mercedes. I should know, I just sold two of mine a couple months back and took a huge hit....Get the MDX you won't be sorry.
  • nxs138nxs138 Posts: 481
    Well from everything I've read in the last few days it would seem that the new MDX will likely be tuned very differently than the upcoming Pilot, i.e. Acura has gone sporty with this new CUV. I assume that the new Pilot will not be tuned to go on the track and will remain primarily a people-mover.

    The success of the Mazda CX-7 shows that people do want a CUV that behaves somewhat likes a sports car, so what Acura is doing makes sense and it might be worth a slight premium over the Pilot. It's a shame that it is going after overpriced CUVs like the Q7 or X5, because the slight premium then becomes a "high premium" in order to keep up with the Joneses!
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    "if the mpg is worse then teh tribeca then its not worth the hp it has over the tribeca."

    This should make things easy for you. The estimated EPA mileage for the MDX is 17/22 mpg (City/Highway) running on premium fuel. The Tribeca is supposed to return 18/23 on regular.

    Don't bother with the Audi if fuel economy is really that important to you.
  • I second your opinion about Audi, especially Audi of N. America, you are right on! I am done with Audi as well, for very similar problems and reasons, I have a 2005 A6. Never will buy Audi again, ever!!
    I do have to say, the 2007 BMW X5 pictures/video are very sexy ;)!
    I am tempted to go German again, even though I have had problems with BMW and Audi (Audi was the absolute worse of the two, I cannot wait to get rid of it).
    I am deciding between the 2007 MDX and X5, I have to see them in person and take a test drive to decide. I hate to say it, but I know the X5 will out perform and the pics look hot compared to the Maroon colored MDX pics I have been seeing all over the internet. MDX lovers please do not jump on me for saying that!!
    If the performance/handling is similar, I do have to say at this point, reliability looks better then any picture!
  • gene00gene00 Posts: 113
    My impression is that there is a substantial difference between the Pilot & the MDX. The Pilot feels like a nice economy car, the MDX a luxury vehicle (on par with the wife's BMW). In most of the important ways, they will admirably perform their functions, but if you appreciate and recognize nicer materials, more comfort & functionality, better handling, etc you can spend for it & get it. An Acura is not merely a re-badged Honda. And I don't think Acura has the greatest image, kind of bland compared with the sexier German competition and 3rd place in my mind behind Lexus & Infinity. But I prefer the MDX to the others. Image is down the list a ways.
  • I am really looking forward to the mdx. It now has some style rather than being so plain. I spoke with my local dealer yesterday and he said they would start getting them on the lot in 4 wks. He was leaving for chicago yesterday to drive one. I just finished nursing school and my treat is a new car...we currently have 3 vehicles and will be getting rid of a 99 landcruiser and a 98 accord.

    we were looking at the q7 because it does look nice but opted to stay with the japanese because they have never failed us in any way. they are reliable vehicles. the mdx does get a few more miles to the gallon.

    here is a link i found somewhere for mpg on about any vehicle.

    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2005findacarf.jsp
  • I also think Q7 is totally sucks! The Audi is define that 'not reliable'. Therefor, I am start to comparing to MDX vs X5. I also considering to buy 2007 Escalade which is most gas slurper in its class, but still catching my soul. The reason is GM announced 10 years warranty on those. :P

    The most advantages of attracting of X5, it's named by BMW. it does have adaptive drive, Head up display(It's so cooool), sun blocking shields on every window.
    Minus of these are probably 54-56,000$ based on those options, not reliable as 'acura'.(most german does) :confuse:

    The MDX's benefits are 300hp(x5 is 265hp), Real time traffic info(which is mostly important to me, I am in LA!), SH-AWD, larger space, lower price 45-48,000$, more reliable than any other brands, Excellent gas mileges(Escalade 12-13 mile for Gal, common!!) ;)
    The minus are no window blocking shields, not soul attracting as looks(probably japanese brand, acura targeting as excutive dad or stylish mom?). low options than other premiums SUV( I like the fact that Q7 does have cup holder gets cold), ugly-fake-wood trims(looks like fake to me) in interriors.

    I will buy X5 if they fit on $52000 and if acura goes on more than $48000, but I will buy MDX gets $46000 for full options if X5 goes more than $54000.

    Anyhow, both are big money to me, but I willing to spend more if somethings are 'really valueble' :shades:
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    yes, but from different stand point, lexus es is nothing but a toyota camry xle. but for once it looks better!
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    @ first, I was itching to say no one cares that much about reliability, but reading the next few posts made me think different.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Audi vehicles have been plagued by reliability issues over the years.
    It has been brought to my attention that over on the Q7 board, there have been quite a few complaints from owners.
    I wouldn't bother to go over there.

    What's the point of getting a high status, good looking SUV if you are afraid you may break down somewhere?

    I would rather go a little lower in status and get the MDX.
    I would sleep better, plus it is also quite good looking and even though the "wood" came out of a test tube, the interior is quite beautiful, IMO and I look forward to sitting in one and hopefully driving it next month.

    When the reviewers are saying it can handle almost as well as the Cayenne and X5, I have to check it out.

    Sure wish the remote power operated tailgate wasn't buried in the rear entertainment system option.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    The reason is GM announced 10 years warranty on those.

    IIRC, the warranty is 5 years/100K miles. It would make sense if you put at least 20K miles/year. Otherwise time will run out before the warranty does. For that matter, Acura powertrain warranty is 6 years/70K miles.
  • my3rdrxmy3rdrx Posts: 167
    I too don't understand why the power liftgate is packaged with the rear entertainment system! It makes much more sense to be included in either the Technology or Sports package.

    Also, the "knob" for the GPS instead of touch screen is another puzzle? Why would Acura switch to that when they had one of the best GPS features around?

    Go figure!?!
  • nxs138nxs138 Posts: 481
    Car & Driver just drove one, and they were impressed with the sport suspension. They especially like the AWD, mentioning how they could really smash the throttle early in a turn. They did mention that the normal suspension is also very good, not as tight, but probably better for day to day driving.

    So Acura might have something here in terms of handling. I somehow doubt it will be better than the X5 or Cayenne (those SUVs are really built with a focus on handling, not supreme comfort), but it might come close.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Actually, the sport package adds active dampers and that is supposed to really help in day-to-day driving. And Acura's handling, as I conclude from previews and reviews so far, is that is excellent but without a jarring ride (and thats where strength of SH-AWD, and effectiveness of active dampers will show up).
  • Saw this on another sight/board:

    base- 40665
    tech- 44165
    tech + ent-46365
    sport-46265
    sport + ent 48465
    #'s do not include destination charge of $670
    Can anyone confirm?
  • Gosh, over 50K for a loaded MDX (tags, title, etc), that is high. I saw similar pricing on another site and I am hoping they are just guesstimates, but who knows.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Assuming you pay MSRP for the top end model, then you will end up into low 50s. But how is that high? Compared to what?
  • Look pretty expensive comparing to X5, XC90... as value aspects. Then I may going to consider to buy RL, which is 95% made in Japan factory.

    X5 does have cool features such as adaptive drive, Head up display..I like acura, but their problem is 'not concerning' about high tech-interrior-features. Seems like keep focusing on mechanic qualities. I know honda got best engine technology, it's time to working on comfort features. Oh, most important thing that they must working on first is, spend more marketing money on 're-value their brand name'. :P
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    It's enough already with the Acura bundled options concept.
    If I want a power lift gate, I should be able to order one without being conned into ordering a rear entertainment package I don't want.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    The power lift gate is packaged with the rear entertainment system because both are items which would be of most interest to buyers with their family in mind.

    This is the first Acura I've seen with such a wide array of options. In the past, it's been NAV or no NAV - nothing else.

    The reason for this is simple. It costs money to make things optional from the factory. The more option packages there are, the more it complicates the assembly process. The more complex assembly becomes, the more money they spend. Bottom line... we pay more for less.
  • nxs138nxs138 Posts: 481
    I think Acura had to offer more options simply because it is now targeting BMW, Porsche, Audi, etc, and all those SUVs have many option packages as well as many individual options. That's what luxury SUV buyers are used to, so why rock the boat.

    That darn power liftgate...is it truly that useful? I'm trying to think of times where you would really use it, and coming up short. Grocery shopping? Most people use a cart, no one really comes out with arms full of bags anymore.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Every person usually has a good reason to buy one vehicle (like MDX) over another (X5 or XC90). What compromises that person is ready to make? Acura needs to compete on quality and features, not on price. Unfortunately, it is not easy to "move" badge conscious buyers. Many may be happier with a choppy riding Cayenne or X5 with fewer features, but that doesn't make MDX less of a vehicle. Based on reviews so far, it seems very reasonably priced (and looking at it, I wonder why Acura didn't do all that to RL... may be they will!).

    And based on those reviews, IMO, top of the line MDX at $49K is a steal, if you consider its direct competition.
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