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2013 and Earlier - Mazda3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • flatso could you get back to me on which dealership you got? so far the best price i got is 700 over invoice out the door including loyalty and graduate rebate. i would like to get the 100 over invoice, that'd be great. thanks
  • ish2lish2l Posts: 19
    when you guys say out-the-door are you including taxes and fees? it would seem to me that 700 over invoice including everything would be a pretty good deal.
  • yeah out the door means final price including all tax and fees. I think that's a good deal, but I would like to know where flatso got his 100 over invoice deal cause I live in central NJ too so i think i can buy from the same dealer. $600 is a lot of money ;).
  • steveflstevefl Posts: 62
    The fees you pay for title and license are fixed by the state, so you don't save a nickel by doing the legwork yourself. It's the documentation fee that's controversial. Edmunds has an entire thread on this doc fee and you ought to at least skim it to see what other folks are saying.

    Turn down the etch fee; it's not required and you don't want it. All the other fees are legit.

    Don't believe anyone's tales about a rebate next fall. Even the Mazda executives don't plan rebates that far ahead. If 2004 sales are brisk, expect no rebates at all next year. In general, it appears you're getting an honest deal.
  • I bought my Mazda3sport today a silver 5 speed GT with sunroof and air. Probart Mazda in London ontario treated me very well Sasa the salesman was very good. I paid 21950 after a deal and a grad rebate. I pick it up on Friday and hope that the snow has stopped by then.
  • Congrats on your purchase! Not a bad Canadian deal at all. Pretty much got something similar in Toronto. Plus that grad rebate really helps bring down the price (didn't mention it during the negotiation at all)

    Did you get any extra's thrown into the price? As for me got the Rust/Undercoat/Fabric protection, car mats and a couple other small accessories.

    I tried to get them to wave the Admin fee, but they wouldn't move on that. Still got the Xbox even thou I didn't go with their financing!

    Congrats again, you'll love the car!

    P.S The Goodyear tires are terrible on fresh snow drive carefully!
  • oldmonkoldmonk Posts: 38
    is anyone aware of the ford s plan? if you qualify for that plan, the price comes to invoice price (+/- a few dollars). does anyone know how
    and how much the dealers profit if they sell it at s-plan? this would be of help to further negotiate the price.

    thanks
  • The S plan price is printed on the dealer's vehicle invoice and the dealer shows this to you. You must have a PIN from Ford or another S Plan company to qualify. S plan pricing is non-negotiable; your trade and financing (if applicable) are your avenues for negotiation.
  • The dealer makes very little on S-Plan deals, but does them anyway because of the goodwill involved. They get a small kickback from Ford/Mazda because of how unprofitable the whole transaction is.

    Bringing up the S-Plan will get you nowhere if you don't qualify for it and are trying to negotiate a lower price.
  • stebsteb Posts: 22
    $600 discount on Mazda3 Sport GT (with A/C and moon - 5 spd). One month ago in Ottawa.

    That seems to be about average from what I hear. I have a strong feeling the price of these cars will rise in the near future. Maybe $1,000. Just a hunch.
  • guskimguskim Posts: 112
    No doubt prices will rise significantly next year... at least in Canada, where demand is quite strong.
    This is one reason why I got the car in its 1st year...figuring any deal I could broker on a 2005 Mazda3 would be offset by the increase in price.
    And Mazda can afford to increase prices here because they have no major Japanese competitors coming out with new models next year. Honda Civic won't change until model year 2006 (so late fall 2005), and Toyota Corolla not until mid 2007.
  • scottdudescottdude Posts: 177
    For those of you in the Central Florida area you may have seen a certain Mazda dealer that regulary offers "$7,000 for any trade!" in their print ads with the small print saying "Vaild on any Mazda on the showroom floor."

    It just so happens that my current car has a Blue Book "fair" value of $3,500, so if this dealers offer is legit, they would in fact be discounting $3,500 off the MSRP of my chosen car, an M3 (assuming the exact color, style I want is on their showroom floor... HA!). Unless Mazda is offering some kind of hidden dealer incentives, $3,500 off MSRP seems like the dealer might loose money on this deal.

    I have not visited the dealer yet, but I assume that the "catch" is in the phrase "showroom floor". They probably have some heavily customized Mazda's in the showroom with dealer add-ons that more than make up for the trade in difference.

    I was wondering if anyone here has ever encountered a situation like this with a dealer, and if so, how you handled it.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    A new Corolla just came out a couple years ago as an 03 model in 02 so I don't think its fair to compare it to the 3 in terms of raising prices. The Civic I can understand.
  • steveflstevefl Posts: 62
    Scottdude: I'm sure the dealer knows he will attract folks will bring (or push) in cars that have virtually $0 in trade-in value, but the dealer still expects to make a profit somehow. Drive up in a friend's borrowed clunker just to talk to someone and find out the catch. We'd all like to know.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Any buyer who believes that kind of crap probably deserves to get ripped off. You can be sure that they have it worked out so they're not giving anything away.

    For some reason this reminds me of a pigeon drop. I guess it's because the dealer is going to use the buyer's own desire to get something for nothing to take advantage of them.
  • I decided to get the black hatch, fully loaded and it seems no dealership in my area (boston) has one .. does it really take 3 months for a dealership to order one for me from mazda?
  • ...in the Bay Area--a Strato Blue one with automatic, ABS, xenon, moonroof and CD changer, leather, and navigation system. The price: $21,340, which seems to be exactly at invoice. I avoided a $219 "vehicle theft recovery" fee (read: etching a number), so the only thing I'm paying other than various fees to California is a $45 license fee.

    They weren't interested in offering me anything reasonable for my current car (a 1996 Saturn which seems to wholesale for something over $2000, but which they wouldn't give me more than $1000 for) so I'll be selling that separately. But all in all, I think I got a good deal...

    -- Harry
  • Was my number....just ordered last weekend - so got a while to go. I got the works less the leather and it was 19.9 + tax which was at invoice assuming the dealer showed me a real invoice
  • nne3jxcnne3jxc Posts: 134
    Have your dealer search Mazda inventory around the Northeast. Before I bought mine, I had my dealer (Talarico Mazda in Manchester, NH) do an inventory search for a black one also. They searched as far south as NJ.
    I ended up with a Winning Blue S instead because the closest black one was in western NY and I didn't want a "new" car with several hundred miles on it. BTW, 3 months doesn't sound outrageous -- I was told at least 8 weeks if I had ordered.

    Jim

    PS: I don't know where "near Boston" you are, but if you aren't too far from NH, you might want to drive up to (or at least call) Talarico -- they just got in a whole bunch of 3 sedans and hatchbacks on Wednesday.
  • You can search inventory yourself through the Mazdausa.com site. They list MSRP, but the dealer will be able to show you the Invoice price.

    Unless they are going to flatbed the car for you, you're better off waiting - besides - who wants a car that has been test driven - I want mine right off the boat - not beaten up by test drivers.
  • guskimguskim Posts: 112
    I fully realize Toyota came out with the Corolla in 2002, as a 2003 model. It still puts a redesign not showing up until 2007. The new Honda Civic is closer to reality, but not until 2006 (showing up in late 2005)...

    So case in point, Mazda 3 for a 1-2 years won't have any major Japanese competitors coming out with a big redesign. The time is ripe for a hefty price increase for the 2005 Mazda3 in Canada (arriving this fall) , if they so choose.
  • oldmonkoldmonk Posts: 38
    Hi Harry,
    Can you tell me which dealer in the bay area did you get it from?

    Congrats on your purpchase. You have got an awesome deal!
  • barlobarlo Posts: 23
    I was just wondering amerstshore if you checked any other dealers near by in Woodstock or Stratford for a deal. I am also from London and was wondering if worth while to shop around.

    Thanks
    Barlo
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    locating in the northeast has been a big problem and it has caused a big shortage....the reason has to due with emissions. NY, Mass, ME and I think VT are CAL emissions states...the other New England states and surrounding states are not....mazda decided not to ship cal emission cars to non CAL boarder states until later this year.. So, it makes swapping very difficult. Also, you can not buy a non CAL car and register it in CAL states...

    so those of you doing your own locates need to take this into consideration.

    Also, those of you doing factory orders, be prepared to wait 3-4 months. Remember, 4-6 weeks of that is shipping from japan and port processing.
  • But then again, I want the 5-speed. And in red or titanium. With the airbag package. And the moonroof. And not much else.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Your dealer must be the problem. The EXACT options and color you want is in stock in Chicago area at multiple dealerships. Your choice of Red or Titanium, both are in stock. There is a large stock of 3's in the Chicago area. Which dealer are you working with?
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Don't be so quick to bad mouth the dealer....are you aware that the consumer located posts the cars when they are ordered by the dealer not when they arrive at the dealership?

    So with the MZ3 the cars are posted on the consumer locater 3-4 months before they arrive at the dealership. The dealers have access to a "live" locater which is much more detailed.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Please explain to me how the dealer is not the problem when the car is available and the dealer can not locate it or is unwilling to dealer trade? I know for a fact that the cars are at dealerships and not in route. Dealer having access to more detailed information is another reason that leads me to think the dealer is the problem, they likely know of additional cars that I am unaware of.
  • ...and while the price was indeed good, I wouldn't exactly rush back there to buy my next car. I got the typical pricing tricks and high-pressure salesmanship, and when I went back to pick up the car today, they said they were finishing up detailing it--then drove it out *coated* in bird droppings. They eventually admitted they'd need 45 minutes to an hour to get it ready; it really took an hour and a half, and they kept telling me they were going to drive it around momentarily. Once I got it, I had the sense they hadn't exactly gone over it with a fine-tooth comb: The navigation system began to talk to me in French...

    But yes, the price was good and the car itself has been a joy so far...and I'm a relative newcomer to the bay area who doesn't know if there's a better Mazda dealer nearby (I wasn't impressed by Putnam, who had marked up all their 3s by $2000 above sticker).

    -- Harry
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Have you actually touched theses cars or are you just going by the locater? if your just going by the locater, tell me the dealer name and I will look on the dealer locater.

    also, don't forget the car is new and hot for mazda...it may not be the selling dealer who is the problem. If a dealer calls me to swap one of my cars and the dealer calling does not have what I want back....tough luck, no swap. Dealers are not in business to fulfill other dealers orders.
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