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New Mitsubishi Outlander Owners Give us your report

tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
Are you a new proud owner of an Outlander? Tell us all about it here!
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  • texas4texas4 Posts: 11
    just signed the papers on 2006 LS tonight.....hope to be visiting this group over the 10 years....
  • abangabang Posts: 44
    I've owned by '07 Outlander XLS for over a week now. Ever since I started reading about it almost a year ago here on Edmunds, I was intrigued and decided to hold off on my new car purchase until the '07 Outlander became available.

    I'm glad I waited. Mitsubishi did a good job with the redesign. The V6 delivers plenty of punch. Mileage could be better but is reasonable. Interior is quiet. The build quality is fantastic, 100% Japanese parts content and built in Japan. Lots of storage and cupholders.

    Base stereo with 6 CD changer is decent. Bonus that it plays MP3s. I love the voice activated bluetooth. It works seamlessly with my Motorola Razr phone. Just say 'Call", "Phonebook", "Dial" etc to make a phone call and the unit responds even on noisy road surfaces.

    3rd row seat though only for small kids, is nice to have and stows into the floor when not in use. Easy to setup and stow. I like the fact that the headrests fold and tuck into the seats during storage. No need to yank the headrests out and store them separately such as those in the Honda Pilot.

    The two piece tail gate is wonderful, no heavy single door to lift or even worse, that opens to the side. I love the keyless locks. Just walk up to the car and it automatically unlocks. No key needed for the ignition, just twist the knob. If the battery on the remote dies, you can remove key that's integrated into the remote, pop the knob off the ignition and insert the key to start the car.

    What other car in this price class let's you switch from FWD to AWD to 4WD? I think only the Outlander offers this feature and not the RAV4, Santa Fe or CR-V. I use this regularly, keeping it in FWD and saving gas when the road is dry and switching to AWD when it rains.

    The interior could be better, bit too much hard plastic surfaces. Surprised there is no lighted vanity mirror. Power drivers seat should be standard in the XLS trim. Don't care for the black interior in my car, it shows dust too easily.

    I've read someone complain that the Outlander bobs and weaves during acceleration and braking. I don't feel that. During hard acceleration, I feel myself pushed back into the seat, not a bobbing sensation. This is an awesome vehicle and I don't think the competition holds a candle to this vehicle. Go get one. :D
  • dodo2dodo2 Posts: 496
    Thanks for the good review. How is the nose diving during braking - another recent complaint by some?
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    Thanks for a nice "personal" review from someone who actually owns it, not by some auto review guy who gets paid by the competition and focuses much on Mitsu's future rather than the vehicle. For those worrying about Mitsu's future in the US, MMNA has consistently increased sales in the past 6 mos., and it looks like this trend will continue now with the Outlander out, and the 08 Lancer and Evo coming.

    I hope to find a dealer close enough in my area who has a graphite gray XLS, so far I haven't got someone who got it in their lot. They can dealer swap though but I don't think I can bargain for a lower price for a dealer swapped vehicle. The usual dealer talk that it costs them money getting the car I want blah blah. So I am doing the hunt for myself, and perhaps save a few hundred bucks.
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    Did you get to play with the paddle shifters? How about the 6 speed auto trans? are the shifting points okay? or would you rather driver manual using the paddle shifters/stick shift?
  • abangabang Posts: 44
    How is the nose diving during braking - another recent complaint by some?

    I don't notice the nose diving when I brake. But then I don't slam the brakes when I stop. Everyone who rides with me comments positively on the firm but not overly busy ride. This car is built on the next generation Lancer and does not ride like a big boat SUV.
  • abangabang Posts: 44
    Did you get to play with the paddle shifters? How about the 6 speed auto trans? are the shifting points okay? or would you rather driver manual using the paddle shifters/stick shift?

    Yes, the paddle shifters are fun to play with. You can also shift with the gear selector on the console if you prefer that. The shift points with the automatic are just fine. For now I'm using the full automatic. I find that I have a tendency to rev the engine when I shift manually and according to the owner's manual high revs needs to be minimized during the break in period.
  • abangabang Posts: 44

    I hope to find a dealer close enough in my area who has a graphite gray XLS, so far I haven't got someone who got it in their lot. They can dealer swap though but I don't think I can bargain for a lower price for a dealer swapped vehicle.


    Based on my experience, don't think you can't negotiate with a dealer swapped vehicle. Initially I was told it would cost $100 to acquire the vehicle from another dealer locally but once the salesperson realized I was serious about buying the car he dropped all mention of that charge. Ultimately I did not have to do a swap, I decided to get the graphite grey that was on the lot.
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    "The shift points with the automatic are just fine. For now I'm using the full automatic. I find that I have a tendency to rev the engine when I shift manually and according to the owner's manual high revs needs to be minimized during the break in period."

    That's good, the 6 speed sportronic trans are just what I imagined them to be then. The revvs should be a lot less annoying than the 4spd CRV I am driving now. For someone like me who is used to drive manual, it becomes second nature to reach for the stick shift when you can sense the revvs go up.
  • dodo2dodo2 Posts: 496
    When in manual mode, does the current gear display?
  • abangabang Posts: 44
    When in manual mode, does the current gear display?

    Yes.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    "Mileage could be better but is reasonable"
    Can you give us some numbers?
  • rou22rou22 Posts: 1
    i just purchased the LS AWD 2 days ago and i love it. I paid $300 over invoice and i'm completely satisfied with my deal. I had been researching this vehicle for quite some time and when it came out, i went to work on the dealers. They did not have a black with black interior in none of the dealerships in Maryland so they had to swap with one in virginia. There is not extra fee for the dealer to do this. If they say it is, they're LYING!!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,803
    It depends on the dealer and the manufacturer. Usually the dealer keeps holdback on the cars they get from the factory, so it's possible for the swapping dealer to make more on the deal than the selling dealer. So some selling dealers won't do a swap without a sweetener to the deal.

    And some dealers won't do a swap without a firm commitment either.

    There's more here if you do a "dealer swap" search - quite a bit shows up in the Dealer Holdback questions discussion.

    For some light "Not the best time to be a car salesman" reading this weekend, check out the link/story in Straightline.

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  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    Thanks for this post steve. Another important piece of info I needed before I go to the dealer next week. Now I feel I have a clear understanding how car buying works in the US. It has been a real challenge for me so far, being a first time car buyer.
  • I have had the XLS now for about 1 week. I love the way it drives except for the the un-smoothness that the low profile tires give. I thought that it needed an alignment, so I took it back to dealer who told me low-profile tires allow most road imperfections to show through. I still am not 100% convinced.

    I have not noticed nose divng during braking, and I have had to slam on the brakes several times due to deer wanting to cross the road in a hurry.

    I paid well below what I should have, my friend owns the dealership! Got lucky on that one.

    Does anyone else who has the XLS with 18" tires "feel the road" more through the steering wheel? By the way, I am in Pennsylvania so the roads here are not that great.
    Thank you.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,803
    Oh, I didn't catch that you were a first timer. Not that it matters; most of us buy new cars so infrequently there's no way we can out-duel a dealer who may sell a half dozen or more cars every day.

    Holdback is just one way the dealer makes money on a deal - there may be other spiffs, bonuses, free trips and cruises and enhanced model allocations that will go to a dealer or salesperson for selling a car that you'll never know about. The sales staff may not even know what bonuses are in play for their manager.

    One strategy is to figure out an out the door price you are comfortable with and stick to that number. Maybe even do the deal by email or fax after the test drive and finding the car on the lot - that way everything is in writing and hopefully there will be fewer surprises.

    There's a whole 'nother chapter about picking up the new car in broad daylight and trying to give it a good going over to make sure there aren't any dings, repaired areas, missing fobs etc. (it's tough to do sometimes, since you get frustrated tying to get through the F&I mop & glow stuff when you really just want to go cruising around town in your new ride).

    Check out the Tips & Advice pages here if you haven't already and don't miss Confessions of a Car Salesman.

    Tidester probably knows some great buying discussions over in Smart Shopper to skim.

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  • abangabang Posts: 44
    "Mileage could be better but is reasonable"
    Can you give us some numbers?


    I've not done any calculations yet. I'm basing this on my the readout from the dashboard reading that tells you what your average mpg is.

    Driving at a steady speed on country roads around 40 mph the displays shows I'm averaging 17 mpg. On the highway around 60 mph I'm averaging 24 mpg.

    Here's the rub. The factory sticker says the mileage estimate is 19 city 22 highway. However, Edmunds and the www.fueleconomy.gov says 19/26 for the 4WD Outlander. Which is correct? If the my car's computer is correct, I should be getting close to the government numbers once the engine is broken in.
  • jowettjowett Posts: 12
    Have you taken note of the rpm,s at a constant highway speed yet? Interested to know if Mits has taken advantage of that 6 spd auto by lowering the highway rpms say at a constant 60 or 70 mph.
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    "Here's the rub. The factory sticker says the mileage estimate is 19 city 22 highway. However, Edmunds and the www.fueleconomy.gov says 19/26 for the 4WD Outlander. Which is correct? If the my car's computer is correct, I should be getting close to the government numbers once the engine is broken in."

    I think nothing really beats doing the math yourself. I have seen this very simple technique before in a commercial for a "gas saver" device. First fill the tank until full, the pump auto shuts off. Note the mileage reading on the dash, or let the trip odometer run. Drive your car as you would do normally, consuming a tank full of that gas, but make sure you'll have enough left to go back to that same gas pump to refuel (just to keep the "pump factor" constant in the equation). At the pump, before refueling, read how many miles was run on that tank of gas. Then fill it up again until the pump shuts-off automatically. Simple math: miles run/gallons filled=actual mileage. Only then will you know the true mileage. You can then do this on every refuel you do, and get an average number for your mileage.
  • I picked up my new XLS earlier in the week. I tested the Outlander against the CR-V (not enough power / didn't like the drive), RAV4 (I4 underpowered, V6 - too much power with a sensitive throttle, uncomfortable 2nd row seat, don't like the rear door), and Hyundai Santa Fe (nice drive, nice interior - reminded me of my wife's Acura MDX, decent power...but did NOT handle nearly as well as the Outlander). First full tank of gas gave me just under 22 mpg with about 70% local, 30% highway driving. Instant MPG read about 26 MPG when I was on the highway. The car drives GREAT.

    Gripes -

    Visors feel VERY cheap, are not lighted, and do not extend the lenth of the window.

    Side mirrors should be heated on a car with heated leather seats.

    Automatic rear mirror is not available (again, should at least be an option on a $30k car).

    Nav system - Display of street names on background could be clearer (and is much clearer on our MDX). POI database is really small. System does not speak the name of streets you need to turn on.

    Stuff I Love -

    Car handles great. Acceleration is very good.

    Leather seats are very comfortable.

    Bluetooth integration works very well and includes an on-screen caller ID display.

    Dial to switch from 2WD to 4WD to 4WD lock works great - tested this weekend driving on a loose gravel roadway.

    HID headlights - great.

    FAST Key - If you get this feature, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it!

    NAV system - hard drive based system is super quick at recalculating routes.

    Hard drive MP3 player - works nicely at burning / replaying CDs. I still need to test the "delete" function and find out if there's a way to tell it to *not* copy every CD that is put in the drive.

    Fold out hatch - Great place to change out of your muddy hiking boots. The clamshell shaped trunk will definitely make loading / unloading easier and using it as a seat is a great bonus.

    Price paid - Invoice.
  • abangabang Posts: 44
    Have you taken note of the rpm,s at a constant highway speed yet? Interested to know if Mits has taken advantage of that 6 spd auto by lowering the highway rpms say at a constant 60 or 70 mph.

    Yup, noticed that the around 60 mph it's turning at approximately 2000 RPM.
  • Hard drive MP3 player - works nicely at burning / replaying CDs. I still need to test the "delete" function and find out if there's a way to tell it to *not* copy every CD that is put in the drive.

    Do you happen to know if the system is capable of "encoding" music in formats other than MP3 to the hard drive? For example, does the Music Server let you say opt to put the music files on the hard drive as Ogg Vorbis, or MP4 files... instead of the typical MP3?

    Also, has anyone considered replacing the 30GB hard drive that comes standard with a larger one... in order to further increase music storage capacity? (Note: Doing this may or may not void the warranty, so even if it's possible to do this I do not recommend doing it... I was just curious if it was possible).
  • dodo2dodo2 Posts: 496
    Yup, noticed that the around 60 mph it's turning at approximately 2000 RPM.

    This is pretty low, isn't it? It sounds like an effortless ride.
  • I purchased the Outlander XLS 4WD over the weekend. I did not upgrade to any of the packages offered. I had to upgrade from my two-door 2002 Acura RSX. With a 1-year old and another child on the way, it had to go! The Outlander seems to be a good size car that will hold the two kids. I have only driven it 150 miles so far, but so far I really enjoy the ride. I like how the 2nd row seats slide back to give a little extra rooms for baby seats. I am a first time Mitsubishi owner, so I hope all goes well :)

    I paid invoice, and received a good trade-in value, so I am happy with my purchase so far.
  • Wow, it seems like a lot of you have been getting your new Outlanders for Invoice price? This sounds promising!

    If this could hold true in my case then that means a 4WD XLS with Nav, Sun&Sound, Luxury, and Accessory Protection packages would weigh in at just under $28,856, or about $2,000 under MSRP. Subtract from that the $500 college grad rebate and that would bring the total to around 28,356. Sounds like a good deal to me for everything you would get given this case. Of course, this would be the best-case scenario and may or may not be likely.

    I received another call from my local Mitsu dealership today asking me when I'm gonna come in... but I'm still trying to resist the temptation to visit the lot until I'm sure my finances are in order. It's just killing me though... I really want to see this thing in real life! Chances are good, however, that I'll "give in" soon and go over to the dealership for a look. I only hope I'll be able to show some self-control as far as the wallet is concerned! :P
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    We're in the same boat! :D The same config, and looking at the same rebate. I hope we get a good deal! :D
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    Then go without your wallet. It is very good practice to test drive a car and give yourself a cooling time. I would suggest testing competition the very same day. Take somebody with you, just in case.
  • Not sure how they would deal on a fully loaded Outlander with all the package add-ons. I should have asked, but wasn't interested in any of the packages. I did get the graphite gray color that I wanted though :)
  • abangabang Posts: 44
    I've had my '07 Outlander XLS for 3 weeks now. I'm still pleased with my purchase, no regrets whatsoever. I'm still not happy about the interior, the hard plastics are showing scuff marks. The FM tuner could be better. It looses signal strength in areas where my Pioneer tuner in my other car has no problems with. I've verified the antenna on the roof of the Outlander is as high as it can go. Occasionally the locks don't work when I push the lock button on the driver's side door handle. I can use the remote to lock in that situation. I'd buy this car again in another heartbeat, but with the beige interior this time.
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