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Also, I have yet to locate my mysterious antifreeze leak. Twice now I've checked the resevoir and it's been bone dry. I never see anything on the ground underneath it, theres nothing leaking in the floorboard and I still have heat, so what could be happening to my antifreeze?
Ok, your fluid is low OR - you may have hit some ice, at a car wash, it could have been soap, who knows...... If it does it again, check the fluid level, add 1/2 quart regardless of what the stick says, if it fixes it, that's what's wrong.
On the Anti-Freeze, this could be several things, from no big deal, to just awful, and it's going take some time and work to find out. Best case, your hoses may be a tad loose, and upon warm up, as the fluid warms faster than the hoses and clamps do, a little fluid will often seep out usually unnoticed. Over time, it depletes your supply of overflow, but it hurts nothing. Stop & go traffic makes this happen even more often on cool downs and warm ups. Remedy? Tighten all clamps with engine cool. Usually fixes problem.
Second possibility - a pinhole leak on a hose somewhere that only leaks under high pressure where you won't notice it, either outside against a hot exhaust pipe, or (sadly) inside the engine, inside a water jacket, head gasket, toward a cylinder wall, etc. This engine is NOT known for interior breaches, so that's very doubtful, I'm betting on the cheap scenerios, in fact I've never heard of a head gasket breach on this engine. (As soon as I say that, someone will flame me, but I'm just saying, I've never heard of one). I'm betting you have a bad hose, or a loose clamp. You also could have a slow leak on the radiator, tank or heater core, which won't be as cheap. Somewhere though, you're losing coolant.
A pinhole leak in a hose would not leave any visible leak marks under the vehicle but it would leave behind the sweet anti-freeze smell. You may wnat to stick your head under the hood and smell for leaks.
:-)
As far as worst case scenario, I had cracked heads on my old Bronco II and the anti-freeze leaked into the oil. I found this out when I went to drain my oil and 8 quarts of "oil" came out instead of 5 quarts. I got esitimates from mechanics that told me that the entire engine needed to be replaced and it would cost a few thousand dollars.
The crank bearing material reacts with the anti-freeze and erodes the bearings.
Instead I took a chance and just replaced the heads for $900. I then used Slick 50 in my first oil change after the damage and everything was fine since then.
I drove the Bronco II for another 4 years and 80,000 miles with no problems.
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hard to feel too sorry for them since it is probably the result of squeezing the parts suppliers on cost. the way the supplier can bring down their cost is to shortcut or downgrade something, and hope for the best.
After talking with a few of the technicians this is what Ive been able to gather together on how to solve/fix this problem.
-Remove the bottom plate on the transmission
-Replace the sullenoid body
-Reprogram the PCM
From what I can gather so far this is partially the suppliers fault for not doing proper quality control before it heads off to the assembly, possibly the transmission engineers didnt design the computer program properly, and other issues. Im still doing research on this and will post anything else I find.
A few weeks ago I was having a conversation with a fusion engineer and he was complaining about how in his testing the computer program would get confused and shift into the wrong gear. If what im thinking is correct all these cars are using the same pcm program software and that the problem is actually a bad code of line or because of a certain input its getting confused and switching.
While it's in there for that, I'll ask them to check and see if they notice any hoses leaking. Back in the warmer months, I did smell antifreeze frequently, but since it's started cooling down over the past month or so, I haven't noticed it.
Nitromax, I bought this one used, it's a '99 XLS with the 4.0 OHV, and now has 49k miles on it. I got it in June of '03 with 32k on it.
I bought the Costguard bumper to bumper warranty on it when I got it, for the duration of 3 years and 36k miles, so it's good for another 18 months and 19k miles.
I've been knocking on wood and keeping my fingers crossed, but I had the feeling that it was time for something else to happen to it.
EDIT: I should also add that the car wash I go to is a brushless automatic, and I always opt for the undercarriage spray, which I think may be what led to the slipping. Some water may have gotten somewhere it shouldn't have. I've driven it several times since then, and it has yet to slip any more, but I'll be alert for it to happen again.
Any help would be great.
I don't recall if the Explorer suspension is a leaf spring or a swing arm suspension. (It's been three years since I had mine) If it's a leaf spring suspension then there is a chance of it getting "out-of-whack"
While it's in there for that, I'll ask them to check and see if they notice any hoses leaking. Back in the warmer months, I did smell antifreeze frequently, but since it's started cooling down over the past month or so, I haven't noticed it.
A small pinhole leak would give you the smell but not leave any tell-tale signs. That may be the cuplprit.
I bought this one used, it's a '99 XLS with the 4.0 OHV, and now has 49k miles on it. I got it in June of '03 with 32k on it.
I bought the Costguard bumper to bumper warranty on it when I got it, for the duration of 3 years and 36k miles, so it's good for another 18 months and 19k miles.
Good call getting the extended warranty. I did the same with mine. It paid for itself after having several front end components wear out prematurely and the engine having to be replaced due to a failed oil pump.
Hopefully yours won't have the same fate as mine. The good thing was, it was all paid for with the extended warranty. The bad thing was I lost all trust in the vehicle and sold it soon afterward.
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Costguard will only cover it if there is an excessive amount of play or if if fails. I love it when an expensive car repair comes up during the holidays. Your family has to do with out anything for Christmas because you've had to unload all your money for car repairs. NOT.
How many others have had their ball joints replaced?
Yes, they're junk. Its an area a lot of manufacturers are cutting corners in nowadays. My dad has a 99 Altima with 70K miles and no problems except the tie rods on both sides are shot. "Sealed" ball joints are just a cost-cutting move for automakers, they're not any better.
"Costguard will only cover it if there is an excessive amount of play or if if fails. I love it when an expensive car repair comes up during the holidays. Your family has to do with out anything for Christmas because you've had to unload all your money for car repairs. NOT."
1/4" play IS excessive. So Costgard will only cover it if the joint breaks? I guess they figure dead customers can't file claims? Sounds like a pretty crummy warranty company.
I guess I'd get a second opinion. Did you get any intelligence on the water leak? Probably not from that garage......
My parents and I have been using this garage for a long time. They always gave us good service at a good price. However I just don't feel right about this one either. I talked to some of the guys I work with the other day about it. They are mechanics in the county garage, and our supervisor was a mechanic for years before he became "the boss". (I'm a school bus driver, by the way.) These guys know a thing or two, and they had their own opinion of the garage I use as well. I think their comment was "I wouldn't take my dog to them." They informed me that the guy they use frequently could probably do it for $300.
However, I feel like I know these guys pretty well, and that they would be honest with me. But, just so ya know, I am being very cautious about the whole thing.
I called the Ford dealer on Wednesday, which is when I received the news on the ball joints. I spoke with the service manager and he informed me that he had the exact same thing happen last week. A customer called them on the phone with a '99 Explorer needing ball joints, and that customer too had the Costguard warranty. That is when he told me that Costguard considers the ball joints a "normal wear item," and only cover replacement if there is an excessive amount of play or failure. I went ahead and got him to give me a "ball park quote" on the repair if I took it to them. By doing this, I was hoping it would be much higher so I could feel better about having it at my usual garage. HAH! His quote for lower ball joints was $400. Now, keep in mind that the other garage wants to replace the upper ones and align it for $540. The service manager said that the only thing listed on the computer was lower ball joints, and that "it wouldn't need an alignment after just replacing the lower ball joints." I beg to differ. My alignment will not stay in because of the bad ball joints, which is also causing my tires to wear on the inside. The other garage said that they'd need to put in a shim to get it back in line.
As for the coolant leak, they said that they'd have to pressure test it, because they saw no sign of antifreeze on the engine or anywhere under the hood, no drips, no smell, nothing. Of course I checked the resevoir afterwards and discovered that it was still full.
On another note about the dealership. I'd received very crappy service there in the past. Took the explorer in for a recall and got it back with a major wiring problem, which the warranty covered, but was "no fault of the dealership." My foot. I was talking to a family friend the other night who, after owning Fords for years and having one Suzuki, and keeping it a shorter time than I kept mine, bought a Dodge. Then he bought another, from the Ford dealership that I've been talking about. He's not very happy with either of his Dodges, but talked very well of the service department at the Ford place. He said that he knew the new service manager, and was told that when the new guy took over a few months ago, there was a mass firing of mechanics and other personel. He talked like the service department was excellent now, so I may try them again if I come to the point that I feel like I"m getting ripped off by the garage I THINK I know so well.
So tell me nvbanker, do you think I'm being fed a load of crap that the "explorers and rangers go through ball joints every 50k," or is it only SOME of them?
By the way, I hope all of you had a Happy Thanksgiving! I had a good one myself, it was great to have the family all together again, but after finding out that I needed ball joints and my sister's '93 Pontiac needs a transmission, our holiday was filled with thoughts of empty pockets for Christmas. And now this cold ices the cake.
On the other side of the coin, I had to replace the original lower ball joints on my 99 Blazer LS, at 90,000 miles. There are the type with the grease fittings. I got the new ball joints from Autozone for only $15 each, and they even had the "Pressing Tool" to loan me for free to do the job of pressing out the old ball joints and pressing in the new. I could have bought the Tool outright for $105.00, but how often do you need to use it? I had to leave a refundable deposit for the Tool, but the whole job only cost me about $33 and about 4 hours labor. Hard to beat that price! Now she rides smooth and quiet and did not require an alignment afterwards, the steering wheel is perfectly straight and the tires where perfectly even.
E.D.
I had to have my ball joints replaced on my 97 Explorer Sport around 60k. They were covered by the extended warranty.
As for your Ford dealer not covering them because it's a "normal wear and tear item". Ball joints normally last at least to 100k and I would say 1/4" of play IS excessive and that they should honor your request.
Good luck
also... when turning the vehicle off, the climate system seems to make noise for a few minutes...not sure if this is related (or normal). still under warranty, so i will bring it up to the dealer, but I'm sure he will dismiss this problem with the age old "cant duplicate problem" excuse.
thanks!
Well, I had that problem with my 04 Mountaineer (6,900 miles). My problem was not so much park to reverse, but from a forward gear to reverse (ex: quick three point turn). Throw it into reverse, give a little gas "BOOM". Serious delay. Since it's my first SUV, thought maybe it was normal if I attempted to accelerate too quickly in reverse coming out of a forward gear. If I shifted into reverse, waited an extra second or two, not a problem.
When my friend forwarded the article to me, I called my dealer. Told me to bring it in for test ride to recreate problem, then would order the part and schedule appointment. Brought it in this past Saturday and he acknowledged the problem. He had a few of the replacement solenoids in stock and fixed it on the spot. Saturday after Thanksgiving must be a slow day since everyone wants their cars/trucks fixed before the long weekend. Whole repair process took 90 minutes. Don't have to drop tranny to repair. As I watched from a distance, all I saw was the pan removed and the fluid drained. Assuming solenoid is external to the tranny. Haven't tried to recreate the problem on my own yet to test the fix, but I do notice the truck to be a little smoother in the forward shifting. I'll update.
Is the engine running smoothly or does it idle rough? hesitation?
activation (engagement of the 4x4 system). I backed up hill (small) with gravel enough to cause the rear wheels to spin... the front wheels
then engaged. I also have an LSD on the rear this
also worked. When I use the high switch I don't hear the engagement but I can feel it. The Low however I can hear and feel it the additional gear will slip into place. All of this was done as a test one time and one time only.
What's the status of your lemon law claim? I've got them on the chirp as well as the tranny. Who did you use for your lemon law application?
Howie
In the past, carmakers have used engine vacuum to operate the various vent doors inside the dash.
I'm just curious if the Explorer uses the same technology or are the vents actuated electronically. anybody?
A leaking vacuum hose would give both poor vent actuation and gas mileage, but I would expect that it would also show up as poor engine idle.
I also don't know if current technology is still using vacuum for actuation. Someone more "in-the-know" might be able to help there.
Is the tranny problem you are having related to the known solenoid issue? I heard these problems can range from small to serious. Biggest symptom is delay into reverse. Mine was resolved this past weekend. While I was at my dealership, service guy at the counter pointed out to me another Mountie on the lift that had serious damage as a result of this problem.
Good luck to you in however you pursue this.
sensors detect the surface is wet (including show) or when the rear wheels are spinning,
I think their are sensors in rear axle to sense this. Maybe the 2002 is a bit softer in terms of
noise and feeling, than the 98. Hence the difference I have a knob to tern when I want to
manually activate HI or LOW 4X4, To go into 4x4 Low, this needs to be from standstill... in neutral... with foot on brake
I have been on these boards for around 4 years plus. I have seen many instances of sealed ball joint failure from the 1998-2001 model year Ford SUV's. My 1996 Explorer, which I sold at 92,000 miles, had the original ball joints, and my son's 1996 Thunderbird has 138,000 miles on it with all original sealed ball joints.
BTW, I am no expert on the matter, I am just pointing out a few observations:)
http://cbsnewyork.com/investigates/local_story_324112924.html
Took the CBS article to dealer and he was aware of the problem. They did transmission diagnosis, found line pressure low due to solenoid failure.
They removed the transmission pan, replaced solenoid body(Part# 4L2Z-7G391-AA) and re-programed PCM.
Refilled transmission with MERCON R V auto transmission fluid.
ALL WARRANTY WORK.
So far so good, haven't had any more shift problems.
Good Luck to all 2004 owners.
Good Luck,
E.D.
What was the mileage on your wife's explorer when she had the lower joints replaced jrc346? Mine has 49,600 on it.