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Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedans

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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    I just posted this in the C-class owner's club photo gallery. Check it out:
    drew_ "MB C-Class Owners: Photo Gallery" May 22, 2001 11:50am
  • rogerr2rogerr2 Posts: 2
    Hi guys, I am new to this board and am just amazed at the amount of knowledge and sharing that goes on here. Keep it up!

    I am interested in a C240 2001 with Auto, C2, Metallic Paint. Invoice is 31545, MSRP is 33860. Dealer wants MSRP. I know some people on this board posted that you can find this car for 500 - 1000 over invoice. Where? In NY/NJ area, they do not want to talk about anything under MSRP for the C240 but are willing to discuss the C320 and the ML and the Es.
    Would any folks that bought recently mind sharing / advising what price they paid recently and if the MSRP for this model is fair? Or should one wait for the 2002?

    Thanks in advance.
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    I would go for 2002, as you are paying MSRP in any case (hopefully prices remain same) what wondering me is I have seen 2001 Per-Owned on dealers lot with 9K miles and they are charging little less than MSRP !!!!!!!! no LOGIC why one would go for a per-owned if the difference is not subtential ?????
  • zmeenowzmeenow Posts: 341
    i agree... though it seems to be a great sign that the car is holding its value due to high demand.
    I guess theres always a possibility of waiting a bit to see if the dealers "drop their drawers"a bit as the 2002 model yr gets closer and closer.The radio is already running ads promoting yr end prices on mb's
  • rs64rs64 Posts: 64
    I paid invoice + $800 for mine 2 weeks ago. 2001 C240, auto w/ sport package. (See if you can get to the internet department or fleet mgr.)
  • cticctic Posts: 291
    Who or what is the fleet manager? What does he do? People seem to be able to get good deals from this guy. So why isn't everyone getting their cars from him?
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    Are you sure they have commercials for year end discounts on C class ?
    I have booked 2002 C 240, with C2 and Auto Tx (MSRP) the dealer only willing to throw CD Free !!
  • rogerr2rogerr2 Posts: 2
    Hi RS64- you mentioned paying Invoice + 800 2 weeks ago. Was this in the North East? When you went in did they start with MSRP and bargain to your price?

    Thanks in advance
  • zmeenowzmeenow Posts: 341
    they didnt mention the c class specifically,no.but as it gets closer to yr end.. and if theres inventory... especially in harder to sell colors......
  • rs64rs64 Posts: 64
    Rogerr2, this was in Southern California.

    ctic, you are kidding, right?
  • cticctic Posts: 291
    No, I'm not! Everyone just ignores my question so I've never found out!
  • rs64rs64 Posts: 64
    I think the hardest part is finding who the fleet manager is at the dealer. The people on the floor won't help because they don't want to lose the deal.

    I have bought 4 cars the past 3 years and the internet sure made it easier.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    This term gets used, too loosely it sometimes seems, to refer to the guy in a high-volume dealership who, in the "olden days" was in charge of selling to businesses and individuals who were in the market to buy more than one vehicle at a time, or some number of cars and trucks over a year of so.

    Lately, the term has become synonymous with that person in the dealership who has the sales responsibility for "affiliated organizations" like credit unions, company organizations, membership clubs, the internet, etc. The assumption here is that no one individual buys more than one car at a time, but the organization brings in enough buyers to justify some level of discount, e.g. AAA Buyer's Program, AARP Member's Program, etc. Often, in my case, this has been code for "find somebody in the dealership who is realistic about price and the marketplace."

    At high-end dealers like MB, BMW, Lexus, etc, there is no tradition that this position exists, or that the dealership has any interest whatsoever in these kinds of sales. However, in competitive urban markets, it is not unusual for someone to wear this hat. Finding said person is the trick.
  • johnny2000johnny2000 Posts: 38
    Hi All,

    In order to find the "fleet managers" try to visit your dealer's website and fill up a Quick Quote. The person who is gonna contact you via email or phone is the Fleet manager or his/her associate. That is how I have found a deal on my car. Oftentimes these "managers" are like JRCT have mentioned sales people with volume sales to membership clubs (Costco, AAA,Rental Car Companies and the like). They are also called, or they call themselves Marketing Associates or Marketing Assistant Directors. So, regardless of the labeling youcoud find out by using hteir website or use the old fashioned way, call and ask for fleet managers. Receptionists know who you want to talk to. Another way in finding these people is to talk to rental companies' managers like Enterprise here in Los Angeles and Budget who specialize in renting some MB cars and ask them of a contact person they recommend to get a deal on MB. I have tried it too and it worked for me.

    Good luck to you all. JRCT I always enjoy reeading your comments, please keep up your positive cntribution.

    Cheers
  • yanksfan1yanksfan1 Posts: 7
    I have been looking for a new vehicle for about 2 months and narrowed it down to the 330i and C320. For the same set-up the Mercedes is $45,000 and the BMW is $43,000. The BMW dealer is offering me $2000 off and 5% lease financing for 36 months, bringing my payment to roughly $610. The quote out of the Mercedes dealer was $710! $30 can be explained by the MSRP difference, the remainder is the dealers unwillingness to move at all! I told him I prefered the C320, but it is not $80/month better than the 320. Can anyone out there help me with two issues:
    1) Help me understand why the C320 is worth the extra?
    2) Where can I get a better deal? Here is what the $710 is composed of: 67% residual, 8.41% effective interest rate, $500 off MSRP.

    I have never purchased a Mercedes while I have owned BMW. I told them this fact, but they don't seem to give a crap if they garner a new customer.
  • ralphh1ralphh1 Posts: 5
    bmw and mercedes tough choice. I owned a 1999 bmw 328i followed by a 1998 slk 230 (which i sold with 11000 miles last week) new 2001 c240 with c1,c2 and c4 package with bose addon...
    both vehicle's are fine auto's....if you want a VERY sporty ride..BMW is your only choice..for a controlled "luxury/sport" ride Mercedes.
    I bought my car using www.autobytel.com...after visiting two dealers bought the car for 1000 under msrp and they dealer traded the car...purchased vehicle in pennsylvania, live in ohio....saved 2500 considering my trade over what i found in ohio...\
    just food for thought.
  • jayonejayone Posts: 25
    Hi just visited my dealer for a squeeky accelerator. I also experienced an odor problem. I dont know where its comming from but theres a stronge smell of some sort of fluid. Waiting to find out , is anyone else experiencing these problems!
  • cticctic Posts: 291
    That dealer may be able to sell all the cars he has, he may not have any incentive to lower his price.

    Answers

    1) It depends on what you want. In another forum I was talking about the Honda Accord. The C320 or the 330i is not $20000 more car than the Accord either. Nobody needs a Mercedes. You have to decide whether you want to pay $80 more for one car or the other.

    2) Shop around the other dealers in your area. Some people have managed to get very good deals.
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    anybody have an idea about when will 2002 prices will be out, I checked on edmunds and found only Acura to come out with 2002 pricing
  • 2002mbenz2002mbenz Posts: 7
    I wanted to purchase 17" 5 spoke rims from MB to put on a C240. Did any other members do this as well? Any recommendations as to whether I should go this way. The rim will definitely have to be from MB.
  • ballmdballmd Posts: 3
    My baby has arrived, C-240, black on black, with C1,C2,C4 and auto trans. Do you guys have a list of things that I should look for when I pick my baby up on Tuesday, May 29. Also, I got $800 off MSRP. I went thou the internet at my local MB dealer. I live in MD.
  • Hi,
    I live in Nassau County, Long Island, NY, and have been
    "hunting" on the web and scoping dealers.
    I plan on getting a 2002 black C-240 c3/c6.
    Helms bros looks like "visitation" #1.
    Like you (or anyone else!) I don't want to
    get shafted so if you've had (good or bad) vibes
    from local dealers ...pls lemme know.
    Personal email: murray@acm.org

    Gerry
  • yuman1234yuman1234 Posts: 2
    ....I ordered a C320 in 9/00 and it finally arrived. I ordered it with sport pkg only and metallic silver paint. The dealer said that the reason why it took so long is because I did not ordered the C2 (moonroof pkg). Did anybody else experience this long of a delay in their order?

    After waiting for so long, I am not inclined to pay MSRP and after reading the posts on this board, I will try to negotiate down the price and get them to throw in some freebies. It would be much appreciate if anyone has a similar experience let me know the outcome of their purchase....thanks.
  • max63max63 Posts: 72
    I was in a similar situation last month. I really loved the C320, but I wanted a car which would be superior to my last car (A6-2.8). I was very close to buying a C320 with loaded, with command (not sport - was not keen on the interior trim). Anyway the car came out to about to sticker for $43,000. The dealer came out with a lease of 690 with tax for 36 months 15,000 miles per year. Even at this price I still wanted to upgrade the tires and wheels. The car just cost too much.

    Then I took a serious look at the BMW 330. Ended up leasing that car (Stickered at $42,000). Because BMW has great lease rates now, I got the car for $565 with tax 36 months 15,000 miles. The 330 sports package looks great with tires IMO.

    To answer your question, when it comes to leasing you need to ask the dealer three questions, How Much?, Whats the Residual? Whats the money factor.
    You wont get a deal on the Mercedes because its a new car. Mercedes have a great residual, but the money factor is very high. Thats where the $80 a month comes in. Anway, the Mercedes is a great car, but like you said not $125 month better - a least for me!

    Hope this helps!
  • cticctic Posts: 291
    Knowing money factors, residuals, even cap cost may not mean a thing because they use this complex formula to calculate the lease.

    If you don't plan to keep the car, the only thing that is important is the monthly payment.

    I know this because I lease one of my cars. Two years ago, I got all the money factor, cap cost, residual information from the net and worked out the cost as per Edmund's and other's lease formulas. Working out the formula I got a monthly payment of $550 or something like that.

    When I went to the first dealer, the crook there first gave me a quote of $650/month. I told him it was too much, he went back, said it was his mistake and quoted me $590. It's all up to him what he wants to quote. I figure the crook just wanted to make some extra money by quoting me $650. I went to the 2nd dealer ordered the same car, same price, same options etc. and got a quote much closer to what my own quote was.

    I'm sure it's not ethical, but I'm also sure that some of the crooked dealers will just add $20 or $30 or whatever to see if the customer will pay.
  • tomsky3tomsky3 Posts: 48
    My E430 took exactly one year (12/12/99 to 12/12/00) to be delivered. I too did not order the sunroof, although I did have some special order items, like Parktronic. However, the main reason for the long wait was the repeated postponements due to the COMAND system. I could have had the car sooner had I thrown in the towel and given up on COMAND, as many did. I'm now glad that I was patient, since I use it frequently.

    Jack
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    After placing an order in March, my Obsidian Black / charcoal C320 with C2, C4, & C6 has finally arrived. Today, I managed to negotiate $800 off MSRP, a free CD changer (installed), floor mats, and two containers of Klasse all-in-one and sealant glaze. The car is a beauty and I can't wait to pick it up next week Tuesday.

    This forum has been extremely informative. Within the next few days, I will be in a much better position to contribute my experiences and thoughts more regularly.

    Thanks to all for a priceless learning experience.
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    A few day ago, a forum member mentioned liquidprice.com as a place to get price quotes. I tried them (very easy to register btw) and received two bids within 48 hours with quotes of $1,000 and $1,100 under MSRP for the C320. Although I wasn't expecting much in terms of a price break from my dealer, this information proved very beneficial in getting the them to bend just a little bit for a pleasant surprise.
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    Congratulations for your CAR; I would like to know the site you mentioned where you got off $800 off MSRP; I have booked C240 2002 with FREE CD and would like to switch to 2001 if I could get a better deal

    thanks in advance
  • rs64rs64 Posts: 64
    Contrats on the new car! Glad it helped. I thought it was an interesting way of shopping.
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