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  • fuzzofuzzo Posts: 88
    I will do that
  • dvancaodvancao Posts: 13
    I got my C240 two weeks ago, with @1K miles on it now.
    No problems except for the exit feature. It's when I get in, the seat does not move forward enough to my original setting. One small chip on the hood and someone scratched the underside of the driver's side rear mirror. I have not checked the distortion of the windshield yet.
    This morning, I made the ASR come on while doing a left hand turn. Love the car!

    Dat.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Your symptoms have indeed cropped up here before; you may need to go back at least a month for the proper posting, but there seems to be a problem with the electronic throttle, for which there may be a known fix. Go back and read forward, and then get yourself to the dealer...
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Your "problem" may be the benchmark you are using: Toyota makes the best, coldest, most powerful AC in the business, across the board from the least expensive model up to the Lexus LS.

    None of the Germans can compare; VW is particularly weak in this area, but neither MB nor BMW have systems as powerful as Toyota. That doesn't mean there might not be something wrong with your car, but it is possible it is doing all it was designed to do...
  • matthew23matthew23 Posts: 11
    Well, the dealer just called to let me know that my new C320 finally arrived, and I'm looking forward to taking delivery. I do have one nagging question though, for all those who may have leased. What kind of money factor did you get? The one they are quoting me seems kinda high, given my creditworthiness, especially when compared to finance rates. Given that it's the end of the month, and I'm sure they'd like to book this deal before Saturday, I'm willing to beat on the dealership a little bit, but only if I have good cause to do so. Hence the inquiry. Would appreciate any responses.
  • mleskovarmleskovar Posts: 171
    Several posts with this symptom but not after turning that I can remember. Just sitting idling and the engine starts to die then revs up on its own and car lurches forward. Fuel pump was the culprit. It stops delivering enough fuel for smooth idle, the computer senses it and compensates by telling pump to increase output, but it has a problem complying, so the computer tells it to increase even more, then it complies all at once with too much fuel. My interpretation, I'm not a professional mechanic.
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    this post is for 2002 C 240s, I just spoke with my dealer and as per him my C 240 was built on 12th June and on docks will be on 28th June and I should get her on Mid July, however MB has not released any price information on 2002 yet and they are expected to hear from MB in early July

    thanks for everyone for valuable contributions
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    let me know how I can upload pictures, I have three FUTURE MB insight views I got from my friend
  • hensleyhensley Posts: 4
    I appreciate the snow feedback. I always take my time when there is snow around so now I have no worries. THANKS.
  • cartesiocartesio Posts: 36
    Go to www.mbusa.com then enter the site. Under "Owners Online," there is a "contact us" selection. Good luck.

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  • maxq2maxq2 Posts: 6
    None of my local dealers have any 2001 C240s in stock. A several dealer about 2 hours away do, however. If I buy from them and then have problems with my car like hesistation from the engine, sqeaks and rattles, etc, will my local dealer service the car? Thanks.
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    You don't have to service your car at the dealership of purchase. Any Mercedes dealership in the US will service your car even if you didn't purchase from them. Hope you find the car you are looking for and happy driving!!
  • husky11husky11 Posts: 53
    Re: A/C performance. You said in #3575 that none of the German cars can compare to the Toyota [air conditioning system].

    I have a 1993 Toyota Camry XLE AND a 1999 C280 MB. I must note that there isn't anything wrong with the MB air conditioning system. They both work very well - all the time.

    Last year, we took a long trip to Southern California in the MB. One passenger actually complained that it was "too cold" in the car - this was in 96 degree weather!

    I would like to know how you arrived at your broad paintbrush statement. ???
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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
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  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    I can make this generalization because I have owned them ALL...and I do mean all of them. I did not say that most people wouldn't find MB's AC acceptable. I did say, and believe strongly from my own experience, that Toyota sets the standard in this regard, and has for a long time. [And my territory is the Calif Central Valley...we just finished a typical week where every day was 100F+].

    Ok, here goes:

    81 Tercel; 82 Pickup; 82 Celica 4 cyl; 82 Supra; 87 Camry; 88 Camry [x2...one was wrecked for me by an idiot in an Olds Toronado...no contest]; 91 Cressida; 91 Corolla; 93 Camry; 98 Corolla

    First, let's eliminate the non-AC Mercedes: 69 220; 71 220; 77 240D. That leaves the 73 SE4.5; 76 300D; 78 240D; 79 300SD; 81 300SD; 84 190E; 86 190E; 89 260E; 94 C220; 98 E320.

    Plus 85 Civic; 86 Integra; 96 Acura RL; 98 Accord 4cyl; 01 Accord 6 cyl.

    And 66 BMW 1602; 85 325e; 86 325e; 88 325i...and...the recent experiences of my best friend, who owns a new Passat that is not up to the task of taking care of Texas heat...just so you know the experience there is personal and fresh.

    Broad paintbrush? You're darned right, partner...bought and paid for...
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    I have not seen any posts about how much strength was required to use the horn. My Black was easier than the Obsidian. If something happened that needed the horn, I could never beep it in time. The left side is worse than the right. My service advisor wants to see what's up and he was concerned also about the window distortion, because he felt it could be a safety issue. I did not attach much importance to the distortion -- just mentioned it and surprised he even took note. There is, however, definitely a safety issue with the horn if I have to stand on it or use a hammer to make it work.

    Miki
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    All of my recent Mercedes seem to require a good healthy push to get the horn to function, and I agree, in a real pinch I have sometimes wanted a toot and got zip. Like yours, one side was often better than the other.

    Every car I've owned in at the past 15 years, and the list is extensive, has had at least some windshield distortion. Certainly all of the MBs have had some waviness in the lower corners; to be perfectly honest, it has never occurred to me to speak up about it, either to a dealer or in this forum, because I guess I just never found it especially distracting. I can certainly imagine circumstances where it could be a real problem, but mine have never been in an area where I needed to focus for any length of time. Replacing a windshield is something I would not do unless the situation were serious. And you are throwing the dice that they can actually come up with a new one that is not going to have some of the same problems...
  • pk6pk6 Posts: 26
    Having driven my 99 now for well over 40k zero problem miles have to say that this car has the best heating/cooling of any car I've owned, including my previous 93 Camry.. One thing to try I found on mine is that if you have the center vents aiming directly on the rear-view mirror which is where I think the sensor < on the previous model anyways> is located, the system is tricked into thinking it's colder inside than it is. No problems whatsover in Chicago/Detroit last summer, and tons of heat here at home in minus 30 degree winter weather, fastest warmup too.
    Maybe someone can check out that sensor location. I could be wrong, but it sure seems to make a difference in my car.
  • benz747benz747 Posts: 91
    I have three New MB pictures I wanted to post so eveybody can see it, does any body know how I can do IT -
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  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    My thanks for the info on the horn. Always good to hear that someone else shares an opinion with me -- makes me feel less neurotic :)

    I agree with you about the windshield -- there is no way I want to replace it. I was having a telephone conversation with my service advisor and he asked how everything else was other than the horn, so I mentioned the windshield. I have a circular driveway with two exits, so I do not back out. Because of the curve of the driveway and the street, this is the time when the distortion is most visible on the sides, when looking to the right or left for oncoming traffic. On the freeway at a fast speed the side scenery sometimes looks wavy; however, I don't often look at scenery while driving :) I can say with complete certainty that I do not have the least desire to replace the windshield until it becomes badly bruised.

    Miki
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    You know its funny that you mention the windshield because on my most recent test drive of a C-class ('01 C240 Classic), which was only a couple of weeks ago, I noticed that the right side of the windshield was also very very slightly wavy. I didn't find it a problem though, and in fact I didn't notice it until I was driving at highway speeds and happened to glance that way. I too wouldn't bother getting it changed.

    I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned this, but the right side wiper of the new C-class is actually an adaptation of the former one blade system. There is a cam that allows it to reach further to the right, and higher up the windshield, hence providing excellent coverage. I only found this out on my last test drive when I had to use the windshield washers to clean the windshield of the C240; it was brand new with only 57 kms on the odometer, so they didn't really have time to detail the outside yet. There were a lot of water spots on the windshield as a result. On my 50 km test drive (1/3 of it was uphill, and the rest in the city; average speed of 65 km/hr), I still managed to average a very good 21 mpg.


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  • ong2000ong2000 Posts: 19
    C320 :
    On a hot sunny day 95+F, I set the temp at 74F / AUTO ,the cooling system (blower) is in full power for hours to keep the car cool, and its kind of noissy. The blower just keep running in full power. If I set the temperature manually, then I won't have enough cool air, unless I set the blower at the highest. If I try to lower the blower then the temp inside the car raise.

    Camry LE:
    My 1997 Camry LE will do a better job with the same condition. I just need to set the blower at the lowest position and it does the job very well, keep the car cool, plus its very quiet . I enjoy driving in quietness rather then noissy.

    My other Benz/380S and BMW/520 can't beat my Camry in this department.
    Any comments are wellcome,
    Joe
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    >test drive of a C-class ('01 C240 Classic), >which was only a couple of weeks ago, I noticed >that the right side of the windshield was also >very very slightly wavy.

    Drew,

    Well.... It appears that "slightly wavy" windshields are here to stay for a while :) I noticed distortion first on the right side; but when I went and sat in the passenger seat, I could see there was some on the left, too. I can deal with it -- better than the other stuff. I would like to be able to use the horn, though.

    You mention windshield washers as having better coverage on the C. Happy to hear that for those who use them. Would you believe I do everything possible to avoid using them -- they spurt water everywhere. The Obsidian has headlamp washers that are pretty wild, too. Have not used them yet. Put the seat warmers on once to ease the guilt of paying the extra money for things I did not need in order to get the Xenon, which, by the way provide very good and comfortable light for driving. I have not had to put on my high beams since I got the car, and I drive where it is very dark.

    Miki
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    Miki - I have the same problem with the amount of strength required to make the horn sound. I first noticed this when I took delivery of the car and wanted to see if it passed Andy Rooney's test. Andy claims you can determine the build quality of a car by the sound of the horn and the way the doors close:) In a driving situation, when I really needed it, I managed to get it to sound after the fact. I took note of how much effort it took to get it to work but didn't give much thought to it afterwards. I will mention it to service to see what they say. The windshield distortion I haven't noticed. Will look to see if mine has it too.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    ...using the horn in Europe is considered anti-social, and rude. Last desperate resort before something really awful happens, or the automotive equivalent of flipping someone off. This may or may not account for the amount of ooomph MB seems to require to make it work. In any case, it is a common characteristic of the brand...
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    >... using the horn in Europe is considered anti->social, and rude. Last desperate resort before >something really awful happens, or the >
    >automotive equivalent of flipping someone off

    This is an interesting fact to know. Actually, I use my horn rarely, but it is that one time "before something really awful happens" that I want it to work. There have been instances when I have been grateful to someone else's horn, too, warning me not to go there :)


    Miki
  • cticctic Posts: 291
    I don't use my horn that much anymore, but sometimes, like when a guy is backing into you without looking into the rear-view mirror you got to use it!

    So what do the Europeans use, the finger?
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Actually I was referring to the windshileld wipers having good coverage of the windshield, but the washers work well too :-). Regarding the headlamps washers, they do work well too, but do leave a mess of windshield washer fluid on the hood. Lots of fun to use when you have an unsuspecting passerby walking in front of your car ;-)

    Would you believe that the headlamp washer dispersal pattern is actually specially engineered to blast as much dirt away from the headlamps as possible? And all of this time I thought that all they did was simply squirt the washer fluid! I do miss those mini wipers that they used to have for the headlamps though. Seems like only Volvo has them now.

    I didn't know that your new C had the Xenons. Did the Black C320 have them too? They're great aren't they? About 2.5 times more light (not to mention the much higher colour temperature) than the halogens, which are already very good too.

    I didn't sit in the passenger seat for that C240 that I test drove, so I didn't notice any distortion. I didn't notice any distortion in other new C's that I have sat in on the showroom floor, but then again I wasn't moving along at highway speeds either. :-)
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