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I was going to wash my car and take some nice pictures outside but I had to take pictures in the garage..Had lots of things happening today.
I'll take some good photos soon.
I have my Tiburon album also. Check it out!
Also, I will finish uploading all pictures.. it only has 3 in the album.
I am using webshots.com
http://community.webshots.com/user/tibbie1217
Daniel.
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It was chipped quite a bit. It's just a piece of plastic, so anything hard enough to pit paint is going to pit plastic. It looked fairly ugly with the little indentations in it, and I think it yellowed a little. Worse was the edges of the bra had a lot of dirt stuck on it, exactly like what you'd see on the edge of old Scotch Tape. You might want to take a look at a bra that's been on for a while. Would want to make anyone go braless.
07/09/00 – place an order for a white/java, leather, and C2. ($500 deposit)
08/??/00 – given a build date of 09/3D
10/11/00 to 10/16/00 – actual build date (not sure which day)
10/26/00 – car placed on boat in Germany
11/05/00 – car arrived Jacksonville, FL (VPC)
11/21/00 – car arrived at Tulsa dealership
11/24/00 – picked up car on the busiest shopping day (a rainy day too)
Car had 60 miles on odometer. 55 miles was part of the random QC inspection.
We like the car very much, and only had one little problem. The salesman could not program the garage door opener. I went back to the dealership and the service advisor finally got the middle button programmed. The button that we wanted to program just quit working finally.
We now have two white MB’s in the garage. It is hard not to compare the two (’96 E320 verses ’01 C320). The C320 looks new and fresh, but it is visibly smaller than the E320 both inside and outside. The old E320 still feels smoother (in ride and engine sound), but slower. I suppose the transmission ratio of the C320 is the difference in engine sound and responsiveness (more torque – new V6 verses old I6). The suspension on the C320 is definitely stiffer.
Perhaps the only thing similar between the ’96 E320 and ’01 C320 is the gas mileage: 19/26. They were identical when I compared the window sticker from both cars.
For those of you who think the C320 has a delay when you push the gas peddle, try the old E320 and you’ll say, “what delay” on the C320. Worse yet, go back to a 1995 E320, and it is even slower than the ’96. Anyway, all these are subjective, and it is only my own experience.
I now join the few white C320 owners like Sleake. I have been away from the forum for a while, and I am sure I have lots to catch up.
KC
Enjoy!!
Right, I have finally concluded that:
- MBZ alleges a "Driver Adaptive electronic 5 speed automatic" (1999 Mercedes Benz C Class Brochure page 53
- I have found no source for a definition of the "Adaptive" algorithm used in this trasmission
- Subjectively, I've tried driving aggressively over various lengths of time (30 minutes, 2 hours, several days) and have found no difference in the throttle response in the important 30-50 mph overtaking range (other than the gas mileage gets worse)
Additionally, I have discovered two other things:
1) If you floor it, there is a manual kickdown feature at the throttle stop which, if you get beyond it, will generate full redline shifts. This is briefly exciting, but not terribly useful in day to day traffic jousting.
2) If you leave the transmission in D4, the throttle response in most cases is vastly improved. This is as you would expect as the box is indeed in a lower gear in most situations.
In spirited driving, I use (mostly) 2) i.e. leaving the transmission in D4. For me, this generates a quite satisfactory experience. The car feels like its on "tip toe" in normal driving, esp on two lane roads where the overtaking gaps are short. This is quite an easy thing to do since, with the MBZ "wiggly" gate, you just grab the shift lever, whack it to the left to downshift and wake up the autobox...It even seems to me that I've read this in the Owner's Manual, but she-who-must-be-obeyed has the car out tonight so I can't go look!
I have to admit 95%, of the time, commuting, I really just don't care about the shift points. Sometimes I turn off the Bose stereo and just listen and feel the rock-solid suspension going down the road.
If I am really feeling like a buzz, I get my '67 Austin Mini Cooper S out of the garage and go for a dash. If I were interested in banging gears in a modern car, I'd probably be running a BMW E46, but I guess I just skipped that phase of my car-owning experience in my declining old age (41:)
Note: my experiences are based on a sample of one - our '99 C280, your mileage may vary, etc.
I would be delighted if other New-C owners could post their experiences here.
Just my thoughts...
rj
Well I'm sure you guessed it. Another Salesman sold it just a few hours before I showed up!
In all, it was my fault. I had told him that I only wanted white. So now he knows I want white or Silver,C2,C4, CD changer. He didn't say why they didn't want it. From an another dealer in another state, I had been told the stock market was causing a lot of people to put off accepting their car when it arrived. Oh well maybe luck will hit twice, still no heat in the car I drive now! I can and will hold out!
MBNut, thanks for your interest in my comparison.
First of all, I want to make it very clear that I was comparing a '96 E320 to a '01 C320. The '96 E320 carried over quite a few things from the '95, especially the engine and transmission. MB did make the '96 a better car overall.
I would not say that the "E320 handles much more poorly than the C320". These two cars were designed for different purposes, in my opinion. The E320 is more luxury than sports. However, I must say the E320 handles very well. I was impressed by how the car (E320) reacted in sharp corners. The suspension tightens up to take those turns, but relaxes on normal driving. To me, it is the "driver's car for the normal driver". The C may be better at road handling because of its sporty nature. My wife prefers the C320's smaller size and responsiveness.
The C320 is more fun to drive. It is more eager to play when you tell it to. The '96 E320 is more like a gentlemen, who thinks (or hesitates) before making a sudden move. That said, the E320 will get up and go although not immediately.
I drove a 2000 E320 a few months ago, and find it completely different than my '96 E320. The 2000 is much more responsive, probably because of the new V6 and some overall improvements. Actually I was very tempted to get a '01 E320.
As far as equipment, the '01 E320 is very similar to the C320. The difference is in how they are configured. The '01 E and '01 C have the same V6 engine, but gear ratio is different. The E has almost the same amenities, but configured a little differently, for instance the placement of the fully automatic window up/down switches. Ride wise, the E is more refine, since it is a bigger car and tuned more for luxury.
I have not tried to push the C320 too hard because it is a new car, and I tend to baby my cars. I will tell you more after I have had a chance to go over the 1,000 miles break-in period. It may take a while, because I don't drive a lot, and will be travelling during most of December. Just to let you know how little I drive, my '96 E320 has 31,000 miles. My '89 Acura Legend Coupe has 80,860 miles.
KC
richardjenkins - Wow.. thanks for your comments. I tried to give more gas when I start from each stops, and I thought it was getting little better.. maybe I was just thinking that way.. Well, I really want to give a lot more gas and see how it moves but my car only has 100 miles on it right now, and I love my car too much to do that yet. Maybe after I break in my car, I'll post the differences(If there's any)
Daniel.
Daniel.
My car was due last week, AAAUUUUGGHHHHHH!!!!! I hate waiting. At least I know I have companions out there who are suffering too.
Okay tclaw, how's the car?
I want to buy one now. Who has had to wait this long, who has not.
Anyone know where I can get a C240 Charcoal interior with Sunroof and Bose options (auto of course)? I'm set on Silver, but will settle for white or black......HELP
Can anyone tell me where the alleged 10
speakers are?
Are there 2 behind the rear passengers.
If so, mine aren't working.
For those waiting, it is worth the wait.
The car drives like a dream! I put a 1K deposit
down in April and received it mid November.
Anyway, speaker input please.
To get XENON lights, you are required to get C4 package. I live in N.CA and Heated seats are great in the morning. I thought I wouldn't need it but I get to use it a lot.
When will COMMAND system be available in US? I don't think it's the map data.. because all other MBs have their Nav system and it works great. It has a high price tag.. (almost 2K right??) but I might consider getting one in my C.(After I check the quality.)
Daniel.
I got my C240 silver/charcoal three weeks ago and love it. I live in Northern NJ, near NYC.
Matt
Anyone know anything about the speakers?
The manual says nothing about them anywhere.
Thanks
For some reason my dealer has stopped answering my email. Maybe she's just off on vacation or something, or maybe I need to call her...
By the way, has anyone been able to find a bra for the new C yet? I got this reply from Clairparts, "As far as availibility on a front mask for your car, M-B said that they do not have a time frame or pricing on one yet. If you have to have something, you might be interested in a clear protectant by going to stongard.com and taking a
look at what they have to offer." It sounds like MB is planning to offer one, but the damage will be done by then, actually already has been!
I talked to him today, as it was my last chance to make any changes. The car was ordered on 10/30 and is still scheduled to be built the first 10 days in January.
Keep those cards and letters coming. If I can't drive it, at least I can read about it. <:-)
hope this helps
View them at..
http://community.webshots.com/user/tibbie1217
(I didn't drive my car, why not?? because it's raining! I love it too much to take it out in the rain! haha..)
He also mentioned Bremen is producing 75% 320s and
25% 240s.
So, my order placed on Oct 14 will likely arrive around Feb 1.