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Kia Sedona (2005 and Earlier)

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  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    if you are having trouble, try pressing and/or slamming the seat back down into the latch-- pulling down on the top of the seatback might be the easiest way to do this. With our 2002 Sedona EX, I have problems when the seat seems to be partially but not fully latched. When the seat is fully latched, I generally have no problems and the seats come right out.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I'm sure the owner's manual has a standard graph of the various approved weights at various weather temperatures. All vehicle owners manuals provide this information.

    Out of curiosity, I did email Kia Motors America shortly after we bought our '02 EX (in Feb 2002). I was informed that the factory fill oil was/is 10W30.
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    I use Mobil One 10 w 30. Have been using it in vehicles since it came out with no engine problems.
  • i too use mobil one in the 10 w 30. i just did my second change at 8000 miles on the sedona. works just great. i always used it, including my 2000 sephia and 1993 dodge colt before that. as far as the seats, they really are large, heavy and very hard to load/unload, but i really like the seats and being male, i guess it doesnt bother me. really i dont take them out often enough to worry about a strained back. i must note that i have a very slight vibration, only showing braking from highway speeds to the ramp (i highway to and from work), i have made a few "light" panic stops, but nothing terrible. i think when the time for brakes comes, instead of kia rotors i will look into a heavy duty or vented rotor, perhaps bendix, or raybestos - any suggestions?
  • i had the same problem with my 03 sedona when i first bought it, had it about 3 days, was stopped at a traffic light...when it turned green, hit the gas and on came the light, I was beside myself and totally pissed off when i got to work. I called 2 dealers, one wouldn't take me for 10 days! YES 10 days, and both told me to keep driving it as long as it didn't do anything funny?!!! well, i had only had the car for a few days how would I really know if it wasn't running exactly the way it should!? Anyway, they said it was a sensor and that i probably didn't put the gas cap on tight enough....I assured them i put it on tightly every time, guess they didn't want to trust a WOMAN...anyway, no problems since and I hope you have the same luck I did in it not returning!!!
  • 1) Make the interior lights stay on more than 1.1 seconds when entering the vehicle at night.

    2) Make the fog lights brighter than 2 candle power and allow them to work WITHOUT turning the headlights on.

    3) Make the automatic headlight sensor less sensitive or add a time delay. As daylight fades, I'm tired of the driver in the car in front of me asking why I was flashing my headlights at him.

    4) Make the "panic button" on the remote a 2 button operation. I've woken up my neighbors too many times at 5 AM when it was still dark.

    5) Add a compass to the overhead trip computer. Simple, yet effective.

    6) Make the MODE button on the overhead trip computer larger than the hour and minute. After all, it is pressed much more frequently.

    7) Keep the interior lights and headlights on for at least 15 seconds when exiting the van after you arrived at your destination and have turned the ignition off. The extra light helps when unlocking your house or getting passengers that require assistance out of the vehicle safely at night.

    8) Make the delayed windshield wipers increase with speed as you drive faster. (Makes sense, doesn't it?)

    9) Install a horn that isn't so whimpy.

    10) Add turn signal alarms for those of us that forget they are on.

    11) Lower the dashboard turn signal indicators to the bottom of the control cluster. Anyone over 6 foot tall may not be able to see them, or may have to adjust the tilt steering wheel to an uncomfortable position to make it visible.

    12) Install an air conditioner that gets cold BEFORE I arrive at my destination.

    13) Install a larger heater core so it warms up in less than 20 minutes of driving.
  • Good list. Some comments:

    1) Make the interior lights stay on more than 1.1 seconds when entering the vehicle at night.

    Yes, it could be longer.

    2) Make the fog lights brighter than 2 candle power and allow them to work WITHOUT turning the headlights on.

    I can tell when they're on...would like to be able to select them without headlights.

    3) Make the automatic headlight sensor less sensitive or add a time delay. As daylight fades, I'm tired of the driver in the car in front of me asking why I was flashing my headlights at him.

    Haven't noticed this one in 2 years.

    4) Make the "panic button" on the remote a 2 button operation. I've woken up my neighbors too many times at 5 AM when it was still dark.

    Don't have one...maybe that's better ;)

    5) Add a compass to the overhead trip computer. Simple, yet effective.

    With the amount of steel in this van, not quite so simple.

    6) Make the MODE button on the overhead trip computer larger than the hour and minute. After all, it is pressed much more frequently.

    Okay.

    7) Keep the interior lights and headlights on for at least 15 seconds when exiting the van after you arrived at your destination and have turned the ignition off. The extra light helps when unlocking your house or getting passengers that require assistance out of the vehicle safely at night.

    I can go without this one, but it's common.

    8) Make the delayed windshield wipers increase with speed as you drive faster. (Makes sense, doesn't it?)

    In theory. I still think it will always be an art to figure out what is too faast and what is too slow.

    9) Install a horn that isn't so whimpy.

    Never used it. Makes chirp when I lock the vehicle- good nuf.

    10) Add turn signal alarms for those of us that forget they are on.

    I drive the car, not the other way around.

    11) Lower the dashboard turn signal indicators to the bottom of the control cluster. Anyone over 6 foot tall may not be able to see them, or may have to adjust the tilt steering wheel to an uncomfortable position to make it visible.

    Naw, heads up display would be much more effective.

    12) Install an air conditioner that gets cold BEFORE I arrive at my destination.

    ???

    13) Install a larger heater core so it warms up in less than 20 minutes of driving.

    The HVAC system works fine for me in much less time.
  • arjay1arjay1 Posts: 172
    I agree on the sensitivity, our headlights will turn on when driving under an overpass if it is cloudy out. I think the difference in other cars is the delay. The Sedona headlights turn on instantly when they sense a low light situation. There should be a delay to prevent them turning on under an overpass.
  • Well, just got back the latest lab results for the winter oil change here in the midatlantic, so I figured now is a good time for a status.

    Our 2002 Sedona EX is going to be two at the end of the month and has just passed the 15000 mile mark (no, I did not forget a zero, that's 15K). The van sees air temperature variances from about 0 to -10F all the way to 105F+ throughout the course of the year. It has been to out to IN, MI, PA and NY as well as plenty of time in and around urban and suburban DC. We have an EX with ABS sunroof and leather.

    It has had two service visits, one for an electrical short in the driver door and one for the noisy A/C compressor (replaced).

    The oil is Walmart 10W-30 SL from fossils. Doing my own changes with Trak Auto filter ($2.50), new drain plug gasket ($1.80) and the lab report ($19), the cost of an oil change is still less than $30. I changed the air filter at 12K.

    Here is the lab report. This oil change was 11/22 and the previous change was 5/15 (or 6 months of all kinds of usage and weather):

    The oil was in use 4328 miles, and all wear is at average levels and in the correct balance to show normal mechanical parts inside. Air and oil filtration (see silicon and insolubles) look okay. This was 10W/30 engine oil with no fuel, moisture or anti-freeze in it. The oil could have stayed in use longer! Try 6,000 miles for the next sample. [bold emphasis added]

    So much for 3 months/3,000 miles, but I thought 6 months was a good general purpose/best practice limit. Coincidentally, I changed the oil in GM Ecotech-based sedan at the very same interval, which was based upon the oil change indicator in that car indicating the need for the change. Length of use and mileage would have been very similar, but I didn't pull the log to look at the GM mileage back in May. (It uses 5w-30.)

    Also, we ran the I-95 gauntlet up to NJ and back one day this weekend for 400 miles - love this vehicle. Acceleration, passing performance, visibility, and comfort were all up to the ugly task.
  • Hi,
    I didn't want to rush into a review of my '04 Sedona EX until I'd had some time on the road. Well, 2mos later, I am completely impressed and still very surprised at the tremendous value this vehicle offers. Sure, It isn't quite as "cool"-looking as the Sienna or Quest, but all minivans, in general, are pretty dorky, IMO, so this point is quite moot.

    I do like all the little things that KIA thought of that make a great deal of sense, like the auto headlights, the numerous storage compartments, rear 12V outlet, even the little band of elastic inside the glove box to retain the manual(ha!). The power sunroof is great and adds a little more fun to the otherwise mundane driving experience. I love the leather seats and the full coverage floor mats, and even the wood-oid accents on the instrument panel (they went a bit lighter on the '04 wood grain).

    Some things I would've done differently:
    - larger wheels than 15", at least offer the option
    - put LED's around the Cruise buttons on the steering wheel so I can find those darn buttons in the dark and know which is which
    -the chromed plastic trim(door handles, speaker bezels, etc) looks very cheap to me. The toyota has a similarly cheap looking black glossy plastic trim.
    -The engine has plenty of power for me, but the MPG is obviously pretty low.
    -why don't the fog lights work without the headlights? The best way to use foglights in fog is to turn OFF the headlights...hello?!
    -add an external temp and compass to the trip computer
    -as many others have said, make the doors auto-lock when the car is put in gear. I still dont understand the purpose of the doors relocking if you take too long to open one after pressing the remote to unlock.

    I cannot believe I ALMOST spent >$10K more for the Toyota Sienna. Now, I'll just cross my fingers that this KIA thing has half the reliability of a Toyota.

    oh yeah, and the dealership i used were liars and asses. I even watched one employee fight with a disgruntled customer to the point of "taking it outside". How poor!
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    Hoya-
    Good to hear the results. My 2003 just passed 17k...wife has used it exclusively for long trips-I think 8k was our previous yearly record, but now we live 30 miles from shopping.

    I"m using Mobil 1 and changing it around 7k.
  • Just finished the last (long) family trip of the year, and had to say that Sedona's are a lot more visible on the road this year. We started looking at vans about this time last year (OK, I wanted the Lord of the Rings : The Fellowship of the Ring DVD that Kia was giving away), and we were hard pressed to even see a Sedona on the lot, let alone on the road. Saw plenty last week on the interstate between Delaware and Kentucky, even an identical blue/beige EX (and the tell tale blue glow of a TV in the back), and at about 14K mi (since April), I'm starting to feel better about our choice.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    hoyahenry, thanks for the analysis data. You also might consider posting your results on Bob is the Oil Guy's site. It's extremely specialized and I don't think the Edmunds folks consider it a competitor to this site.

    Your analysis results make me wonder if the Sedona's 3.5L V6 is easy on oil in general, or you just happen to have an easy regimen, or your particular engine is easy on oil. Didn't sound like an easy regimen - 6 months in service seems to be plenty, sometimes too much, for plain dino oil.
  • smulveysmulvey Posts: 139
    I have 33,000 miles on my engine.
    I use a 5-50 Castrol synthetic.
    At my last oil change I only got 4 quarts out.
    I put 5 quarts in when I changed it.
    I burned 1 quart.
    My oil change interval at this change was
    2500 miles.
    The oil pas pretty soupy.

    I think the culprit may have been the " high speed" driving I was doing.

    Most of those miles were at 70 MPH on the interstate.

    I may be that there is more blowby on the rings at those speeds, or maybe the PVC valve.

    Other than the oil consuption the engine is very smooth and quiet.

    Fule economy on this weekends 1,000 mile jaunt to the mountains was good at 22-25 MPG on several tanks of gas.

    Lower speed of 65 MPG yeilds top milage.

    I was surprised at good milage since we were running the snow tires now.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,557
    Thanks for the real world update. I love those. I also love the dead dino reports since I change at 7,500 miles with the discount store stuff too!

    Glad to see you're entering the 3rd year with so few issues.

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  • thsu01thsu01 Posts: 31
    I live in the Bronx, New York. I have posted my Sedona MPG earlier. The follwoing is an update of MPG for my 11 months old Sedona (I bought it new last January). It appears that it is not going to get any better. Most of the time, there was only one passenger (my 4 years old son). The third raw seats had been removed (to save some gas).

    Tank No. 20 to No. 23 involved a 240 miles interstate round trip plus a one hour idling with A/C on. I got 10 - 11 mpg in the city with a little bit of local highway milages. I got 13 - 14 mpg when there was 1/4 to 1/3 of highway milages. It is quite rediculous to see a tank of gas can't even run 200 miles in the city.

    --------------------tank-------------tank----total--total
    tank--meter--miles--gallons--mpg---gallons--mpg

    1-----190----240----17.42----13.8---17.42---13.8
    2-----430----216----15.04----14.4---32.46---14.0
    3-----646----232----18.45----12.6---50.91---13.5
    4-----878----250----18.02----13.9---68.93---13.6
    5-----1128---197----14.51----13.6---83.44---13.6
    6-----1325---250----17.95----13.9--101.39---13.7
    7-----1575---251----18.23----13.8--119.62---13.7
    8-----1826---242----17.08----14.2--136.70---13.7
    9-----2068---232----16.52----14.0--153.22---13.8
    10----2300---254----17.52----14.5--170.74---13.8
    11----2554---198----17.07----11.6--187.81---13.6
    12----2752---188----18.72----10.0--206.53---13.3
    13----2940---261----18.62----14.0--225.15---13.4
    14----3201---215----18.17----11.8--243.32---13.3
    15----3416---185----18.10----10.2--261.42---13.0
    16----3601---171----15.45----11.1--276.87---12.9
    17----3772---223----16.08----13.9--292.95---13.0
    18----3995---169----15.84----10.7--308.79---12.9
    19----4164---168----16.51----10.2--325.30---12.7
    20----4332----14-----1.92-----7.3--327.22---12.7
    21----4346---114----15.04-----7.6--342.26---12.5
    22----4460---257-----8.88----28.9--351.14---12.9
    23----4717---225----18.85----11.9--369.99---12.8
    24----4942---185----16.58----11.2--386.57---12.8
    25----5127---196----16.71----11.7--403.28---12.7
    26----5323---183----15.56----11.8--418.84---12.7
    27----5506
  • in town I get maybe if i'm lucky 185 miles out of a tank of gas........pretty sad....when my husbands fullsize 4x4 dodge truck does better than my van on gas!
  • Glad to see you're entering the 3rd year with so few issues.

    Me, too! ;)
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    For those wondering about how the van handles in winter conditions, I put the van through a major test last week. Drove up to New Jersey last Friday during the big snowstorm that hit the East Coast. My 2003 Sedona EX ran the gauntlet from rain, ice pellets, sleet, frozen slush, snow and high winds. Traffic on the New Jersey turnpike was restricted to 35mph.

    The heavy weight and front wheel drive made handing excellent. Only felt slippage on one spot...pure ice coming down the Delaware bridge.

    Only one minor complaint: Had to keep defog on high to keep side windows clear, and temps cranked up. Weather was so extreme that this was a minor inconvenience.
  • I have a 2003 Sedona EX with cloth seats.
    The drivers seat is loose and creaks and clicks when I shift my weight or push forwards and backwards with my legs.
    The Dealer has fixed it two times and most recently replaced the lower unit including the seat cushion but it still moves and makes noise.
    I am 6'2" and weigh 225 lbs. When I sit in the drivers seat my right hip presses against a metal bar that runs under the left and right halves of the seat cushion. I can press my thumb between the seat cushion and my hipbone and feel metal with little cushioning.
    I tried sitting in a Sedona with leather seats but feel the same problem.
    I tried a padded cushion but it didn't help much.
    Is this a defect or just a lack of quality in the seat padding?
    Any suggestions for a fix?
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    We have a 2002 Sedona EX with leather seats. Soon after buying our Sedona, I noticed the same metal bar - don't remember how, maybe I was climbing on the driver's seat and my knee pushed down far enough to feel it. I thought it was odd - you shouldn't be feeling metal rods in a vehicle seat. But during normal use, my wife (5'5", average weight) and I (5'9", 180 pounds) don't notice it so it's a non-issue for us.

    It would seem that a fairly dense piece of foam would help, but that's a pretty tacky and impractical solution unless you throw a seat cover over it.

    Sorry this is a problem for you and sorry I don't have any suggestions. At 6-2, 225 it's not like you are some giant. That's a pretty common size person, and Kia should not be building seats in which people can feel the metal structure underneath the cushioning.
  • In the US, Auto makers are required to make the headlights be on before the Fog lamps can opperate.

    The idea behind the doors relocking after you unlock them and put things in the back is that people always put things in the back and then walk back into the mall and forget to relock the car. If you open anything except the back hatch you override this function. Adjustable option settings would be better.
  • Has someone seen the difference of the 3rd row cloth seat of the sedona 2004 LX and EX?

    I bought a Sedona 2004 EX with cloth seats, somehow the 3row seat does look like the 3 bucket seat. It's very uncomfortable for a passenger to sit in the middle due to the hinges that bother your tailbone. Has anyone had this experience?

    Thanks.
  • jrush,
    yes, I have noticed "bottoming out" (literally) on the KIA seats, particularly when I sit in the 3rd row, which is just too annoying for me to do. I weigh 180#.

    I imagine this problem will get worse as repeated sitting definitely causes cushion foam to lose it's integrity.

    On a related note, there are add-on seating surfaces that work well, but look ugly. I own a hinged seat called the "Sacro-Ease" (available at every back store i have ever been to) which provides a fully supported surface which is better for your pelvis and back than any stock automotive seat anyway. I may buy a new one that matches my interior and start using it again if the cushion problem gets worse.

    cheers
  • dmoyerdmoyer Posts: 27
    Looking for comments about the Hankook Dynamic RH03 tire.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,557
    Look around Tires, tires, tires too.

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  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    are some/all of the new 2004 Sedonas equipped with the 'Hankook Dynamic RH03' tires? Some 2002 Sedonas had Kumho brand tires, and others had Hankook brand. Our 2002 EX came with Hankooks. If I recall, they are Hankook RA07 - note the word "Dynamic" is nowhere to be found on these tires, and the model is RA07.

    Perhaps Kia is using a different model of Hankooks on the '04 Sedonas?
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    Hankook RA07's still listed as OEM for Sedona on the Hankook website.

    BTW, It might not have been updated, but I didn't see RH03's listed.

    If they continue to wear this well, will probably stick with them when they wear out. I've been happy with both wet wx and snow performance with the RA07's.

    Happy New Year, and a great year for driving in 2004 to you all.
  • thsu01thsu01 Posts: 31
    My last tank of gas (ca. 16.5 gallons) made 146 mile. This resulted in a MPG of 8.85 (city plus a little local highway).

    My next inspection is due next month (January). I don't know if I want it to fail or pass.
  • hoyahenryhoyahenry Posts: 399
    Just got back from the DC auto show. The 04 Sedona at the exhibition had the same Hankook RA07s that I have on the 02. It's going to be another 4 years before I have to consider replacements, but I sure don't know what would be better. They've been quite good. I've noticed some low speed slippage on snow that would be quite muted if the ABS were integrated with TCS. Not sure if it is the tires or the transmission arrangement.

    The sticker on the 04 listed EPA mpg estimates at 16/22 (improved over the 15/20 originally listed), with the small print showing 13/19 for all city and 18/26 for all highway. These numbers are consistent with my real world experience.
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