I just got call from Brockman @ David Mc David in Frisco, TX begging me to buy an Accord EX-L and he said he would sell it for 23k plus TTL with doc. fees of $190. I indicated that he would pad that price with accessories (protection pkg. = $1k) and he said he would waive it. My best offer with accessories and 100k extended power train warranty was 24.5k + from Hargis @Rusty Wallis. I bet this deal will not be there after Oct. 31st ....! McDavid does have the inventory and is largest dealership in Dallas area but little slippery also so confirm and re-confirm before deciding!
Unfortunatley, we had already purchased 2012 Altima 2.5SL fully loaded for 23.5 plus TTL plus doc. fees of 149 and one can get Altima for 23k or better with 1500 rebates. In long term which is better, probaly Accord due to re-sale but reliabilty CR ranks it higher than Accord. Frankly you can NOT go wrong with Accord, Sonata, Altima, Camry, Legacy & Fusion!
Vereen, since you are from Dallas Metro area see my above post # 26441. McDavid in Frisco, TX will sell I4 Auto. EX-L for 23k plus TTL and that is darn good price! The EX is 2200 less!
They can be tricky so please nail it down about the accessories included and hidden stuff! We got tired of 25k prices for EX-L so we got 2012 Altima 2.5SL with Bose sound for 23.5k.
For 1000 miles plus drive I would get it here, its not like than you can save sales tax when you buy out of state. His doc. fees are okay @ 190 that is quite std. but like I said call Lou B. and make sure to cross t and dot i! 23k plus TTl was doable only on 2010s and I have been looking out for Accord since Summer 2010. Tickets if its S Airlines you can change but others you can list them on fire sale! Good luck fellow Texan and Go rangers!
Just got a SE for $21,500 OTD at Koons Honda in VA. The price may go lower. Drove about 200 miles to get there. Everything was completely smooth. They are also donate $100 to breast cancer research foundation for each car sold in this month.
Hi alookman, Thats a real deal you got from Frisco dealer. Did you get the 2011 EX-L for $23500 + TTL + $190 + free protection package ($1k value) + Extended 100k powertrain warranty? If yes, I am planning to get the same extracted from my local honda dealer in charlotte. Can you post the entire split up including invoice price as that might help me in my negotiations. Thanks for the effort.
Sorry for the typo. I meant 2012. I passed on the details to my local dealer in Charlotte and he asked me the complete break up so that he can work out something. One more question, Is it V6 or 2.4l mODEL?
I have found that the OTD prcing in Baltimore, MD would include the Texas TTL instead of the Maryland based Taxes.
Again thanks for looking out... appreciate your opinions and willingness to share them.
I will post my experience once i'm done.... looking at me... couple of others have also booked cars from the same dealer... unfortunately we are not able to go together to make the deal.
Hi Veeren, Can you post the cost split up of the 2012 Accord SE that you obtained from Anderson Honda including the manufacturer rebates that was applied. That would help me in my negotiations with Local Honda Dealers around Charlotte, nc. Thanks and appreciate in advance and all the best for your new car.
got a basic Accord LX sedan with auto for 18,400 in MD through internet. tax 6%, tags and title 270, document fee 200 and freight 770 were extra. Good luck shoppers!
I was thinking of getting a civic but pricing is still too hot given inventory. I received a quote from McDavid In Frisco Tx for 2012 Accord SE for 20,969. 500 Incentive to Dealer ends 10/31. I felt this was an excellent deal and the person in El Paso received a comparable quote and might reconsider making an offer. It's nice to see pricing has moderated somewhat
Shouldn't disclose name but it's the Assistant Internet Director at McDavid Honda in Frisco Tx- I have also been in touch with an internet specialist-- Large Dealer
I was also looking at EX as I buy and hold and wanted some adds. After looking at the SE I changed my mind. Can do w/o the Sunroof but really liked the look of Leather vs cloth.
EX invoice is higher than SE by 400.... Your price maybe just due to local inventory-
Either way if your pulling a trigger this weekend through 31st. I think you could expect 1200-1500 under invoice.
I was emailed the price of EXL for 24.4k for I4 4 dr automatic with 100k warranty but he indicated he was close to sold out on EXL.
Another Frisco, Texas dealer David McDavid inquired if I would be interested in 23k. His boss the sales mgr. asked me ie he could convince me to buy there. He was very honest and up front. Their true cost is invoice less factory incentives less hold chg. backs makes their wholesale cost around 23.5k-24k+- so honestly 23k doesn't sound realistic. 24k maybe but 24.5 k is possible. The added protection package is retailed for 1000-1500 but their true cost is 350. I agreed with him that they should be able to make some money not sell at cost or loss.
BTW I had already got disgusted with 25k-26k early on so I got the my second choice Altima 2.5SL fully loaded with killer Bose Sound Sys. and rear view camera . I had Sonata on top of my list but the Consumer Report ranks their reliability as average but outshines Accord and Altima from safety to value to performance. Most reliable car is Legacy and than Mazda 6 and never eve considered them. Look at M6 its best handling car and not every second garage!
2013 Accord might be released in Summer 2012 like 2012 Civic was if they can get their production cycle up. It makes mores sense to release in Spring or Summer when sales are at peak! Intro models are risky business!
I am trying to find a deal for two accords and am struggling getting any dealers in Ohio to get in the 23's for the ex-l and to get down to 21,000 on the SE.
How do the incentives usually change in November and December? Are there usually better prices in these months? I have a few months of leeway since I am in a lease that does not expire until January..
I met the McDavid Honda frisco guys on Thursday night (10/27/2011) and they did not come near the quote you mentioned of 20,969.
BTW... i came from Dallas to Baltimore for the car... Got it (Accord SE 2012, with no dealer adds) OTD for 21,158 which includes 6.25% TX taxes and some fees. Will be driving to Dallas tomorrow morning, got stuck in snow here in VA.
Hi Nsir, congrats on your purchase. Does the price include any after market add ons like protection package, wheel locks etc? or is it without any accessories.
Also NSIR, can you email me the total break up of the cost from Dealer to iyer.vikas at GMAIL.com. The dealers in Charlotte area are not willing to believe that some ppl are getting the Accord SE for $21500 and want to see in writing. I will really appreciate if you can forward me the email from dealer which explains in detail the break up of the cost and final price paid OTD. Thanks and appreciate your efforts.
At a Central NJ dealership today, the salesman gave me an initial OTD quote of 25,552. It sounded too high so I was thinking it over and he got the Sales Mgr. who's quote was 25,082. It still seems too high. I'm going back tonight. The car isn't in their inventory but being as it's the last day of the month, they must be wanting to make a sale. Any suggestions on an offer I should make?
The quote included destination not 6.25% tax or fees-- avg around 150-250 in Tx.
Looks like Vereen talked to them in person and wouldn't touch it- Strange since they emailed quote... may keep in mind when ready to pull trigger
I live in Houston and would hate to travel just to have games played. When I bought my Pilot everything was emailed and went very smooth - no adds or issues- Hoping for the same experience again.
Congrats to Vereen- You may have the record for longest distance traveled for a deal but you definately got one- enjoy !!
Everythings a little different this year because of production issues and late release of 2012 Accord.
Some things never change. If you can wait until year end- Week after Christmas is normally a very good time to buy. Time is on your side.
I was given a quote of 20,969 for 2012 SE and Vereen picked one up for even less in Maryland. I think incentives will continue into next year so yes you can get this vehicle for 21k
My gf just got her Honda Accord 2012 SE Automatic for an OTD of $22,500. We've been to many dealers in Charlotte and this is pretty much the best price I could get and this is at the last day of the month deal.
What's amusing about this is I tried working with them (David McDavid) to work out a deal on a car for my father, and we had a bait and switch experience. We were quoted a price on a 2012 Accord EX auto, all numbers were finalized, but when we got there they told us it would be that price +$1995 for the "protection package."
This $1995 protection package includes mudflaps, pinstripes (did not see on car), wheel locks, cargo tray, tint, and the sunroof visor. A bait and switch is one thing, but $2k for this?
Our salesman - Andy - quite honestly sucked. We had a horrible experience with him. When I confronted him on the cost, his response was "well since we gave you a good price on the car we have to make our money another way." Screw that.
As I had stated in my previous post that I was unable to get great deal with Honda and I went with my other choice Altima.
On 10/27 I had call from Lou @ McDavid and he wanted to sell EXL for 23k and he clarified he would eat the add on cost. Mr. Kinnan sale mgr. from McDavid called later and was very straightforward and said his add on cost is 350 which is fair price to pay. My no hassle previous quote for EXL I4 Automatic was 24.4 k with add on accessories (protection pkg.) plus 100k power train warranty by Mr. Hargis @ Rusty Wallis . He emailed me that offer good thru 10/31/2011 but you should be able get it in Nov.
BTW the best time to but cars in DFW is (Jan/12-Feb/12) after snow/ice day when sales plummet and no one wants to drive a new car on icy road!
The invoice difference between EX and EX-L is 2,200. I think 24.2k for EXL is doable and 22k for EX is doable. These are all very good deals thousands below invoice and you will get a car that doesnt depreciate a lot.
Good luck!
If you have time and patience and know the low market price
Talk with sales manager J. Kinman, he seemed straight forward and said would share his actual cost of the car and knows about me. Your second choice is Mr. Hargis at Rusty Wallace and give him my name. He is low on inventory and McDavid has larger inventory.
With protection package you can get it for 22k - 22.5k you have a good deal. The sales tax is 6.25% and title and license is about 180 and doc. fee should be 175-190 which is okay. Ask for drive out or out of door price on phone before heading to dealership. Recheck his numbers again they have tendency of slipping some bogus fees like mkt.
End of month is best time to close deal since they have monthly sales target to meet!
I got the car over the weekend from Anderson Honda in Cockeysville, MD.
Drove from Sunday 8:30 am to Monday 8:15 am to Dallas (total of 1400 miles)
Here is the deal, the experience of the dealership was of the WalMart type (positively) no pressure to buy, no change in prices previously communicated over phones/emails.
Other car dealers sucked in Dallas area, bait & Switch, communicated prices would change because they don't include Destination & Handling, deal ads etc etc. and other stupid fees
Costs: 19,876 Plus Tax @ 6.25% 40 USD temporary tags
Total: 21,158 USD (OTD in Maryland), + cost of registering in Dallas TX.
Only think i noticed was that the gas tank was not really full, i had to fill in 3 gallons to get it to full, (The fuel indicator was near full , but a wee bit below the full mark, guess thats just skimping) else it was perfectly all right.
Hey, See my recent posts, i have documented my experience with dealer ship... no games for sure.
I drove in record time as well.. 1400 miles.. within (less than) 25 hrs, which included around 5 hours of breaks (gas/coffee/water/sleep/food)
I have driven more in India, i reasoned that i can do that here too in US. I was having the option of shipping for 700 bucks + return fare to dallas for around 200 USD total cost of not driving was around 900 USD.
Last time i shipped my car from california, bay area to Dallas, my car was damaged by constant rubbing of another car's number plate and the car was practically new only 500 miles added on to the odometer, hence i hesitated to get the car shipped.
Valley Honda, Aurora IL. Just bought it last night with 1.9% financing over 5 years-black/black. They only tacked on the $156 doc fee and $150 mud flaps. Clean deal, I think.
Honda of Lisle--not worth dealing with--always high on prices in person, and then gives the standard well, if someone gives you a better price, come back in and we'll beat it by $100 (woo-hoo)
Valley Honda in Aurora--on email gave me these quotes (includes destination) Honda Accord 2012 EX Sedan (no leather, 4 cyl) 21,829 Honda Accord 2012 EXL (leather) Sedan 4 cycl 23,994 Honda Accord 2012 EXL V6 25,827 (we bought this last night) Jab R was our salesperson. Nice guy! very patient. Financing was 1.9 percent for 5 yrs.
Has anyone seen the November incentives yet for Honda? I looked on their webpage but it seems down. I was curious if they had the .9 finance rate for 60 months and if their cash back changed at all.
Thats a very great deal Veeren. I have a few questions: 1) Did you pay in cash or took loan? if loan, Did you get the 0.9% rate and for how many years.
2) Did you contact the internet sales manager via email or did you call them up directly and negotiated directly. Also, can you tell me the contact person name who gave you the deal.
3) How many miles were on the car you purchased?
Thanks in advance and all the best on your excellent buy.
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Unfortunatley, we had already purchased 2012 Altima 2.5SL fully loaded for 23.5 plus TTL plus doc. fees of 149 and one can get Altima for 23k or better with 1500 rebates. In long term which is better, probaly Accord due to re-sale but reliabilty CR ranks it higher than Accord. Frankly you can NOT go wrong with Accord, Sonata, Altima, Camry, Legacy & Fusion!
Happy Motoring!
They can be tricky so please nail it down about the accessories included and hidden stuff! We got tired of 25k prices for EX-L so we got 2012 Altima 2.5SL with Bose sound for 23.5k.
Good luck!
In the meanwhile I will contact McDavid Honda Frisco, its only a couple of miles from my place.
Again thanks for looking out... appreciate your opinions and willingness to share them.
I will post my experience once i'm done.... looking at me... couple of others have also booked cars from the same dealer... unfortunately we are not able to go together to make the deal.
I felt this was an excellent deal and the person in El Paso received a comparable quote and might reconsider making an offer. It's nice to see pricing has moderated somewhat
I was also looking at EX as I buy and hold and wanted some adds. After looking at the SE I changed my mind. Can do w/o the Sunroof but really liked the look of Leather vs cloth.
EX invoice is higher than SE by 400.... Your price maybe just due to local inventory-
Either way if your pulling a trigger this weekend through 31st. I think you could expect 1200-1500 under invoice.
Is the price 20,969 for the SE includes everything except sales tax ?
What do you think the fair price for an SE ?
I was emailed the price of EXL for 24.4k for I4 4 dr automatic with 100k warranty but he indicated he was close to sold out on EXL.
Another Frisco, Texas dealer David McDavid inquired if I would be interested in 23k. His boss the sales mgr. asked me ie he could convince me to buy there. He was very honest and up front. Their true cost is invoice less factory incentives less hold chg. backs makes their wholesale cost around 23.5k-24k+- so honestly 23k doesn't sound realistic. 24k maybe but 24.5 k is possible. The added protection package is retailed for 1000-1500 but their true cost is 350. I agreed with him that they should be able to make some money not sell at cost or loss.
BTW I had already got disgusted with 25k-26k early on so I got the my second choice Altima 2.5SL fully loaded with killer Bose Sound Sys. and rear view camera . I had Sonata on top of my list but the Consumer Report ranks their reliability as average but outshines Accord and Altima from safety to value to performance. Most reliable car is Legacy and than Mazda 6 and never eve considered them. Look at M6 its best handling car and not every second garage!
2013 Accord might be released in Summer 2012 like 2012 Civic was if they can get their production cycle up. It makes mores sense to release in Spring or Summer when sales are at peak! Intro models are risky business!
How do the incentives usually change in November and December? Are there usually better prices in these months? I have a few months of leeway since I am in a lease that does not expire until January..
BTW... i came from Dallas to Baltimore for the car...
Got it (Accord SE 2012, with no dealer adds) OTD for 21,158 which includes 6.25% TX taxes and some fees.
Will be driving to Dallas tomorrow morning, got stuck in snow here in VA.
Looks like Vereen talked to them in person and wouldn't touch it- Strange since they emailed quote... may keep in mind when ready to pull trigger
I live in Houston and would hate to travel just to have games played. When I bought my Pilot everything was emailed and went very smooth - no adds or issues- Hoping for the same experience again.
Congrats to Vereen- You may have the record for longest distance traveled for a deal but you definately got one- enjoy !!
Some things never change. If you can wait until year end- Week after Christmas is normally a very good time to buy. Time is on your side.
I was given a quote of 20,969 for 2012 SE and Vereen picked one up for even less in Maryland. I think incentives will continue into next year so yes you can get this vehicle for 21k
This $1995 protection package includes mudflaps, pinstripes (did not see on car), wheel locks, cargo tray, tint, and the sunroof visor. A bait and switch is one thing, but $2k for this?
Our salesman - Andy - quite honestly sucked. We had a horrible experience with him. When I confronted him on the cost, his response was "well since we gave you a good price on the car we have to make our money another way." Screw that.
On 10/27 I had call from Lou @ McDavid and he wanted to sell EXL for 23k and he clarified he would eat the add on cost. Mr. Kinnan sale mgr. from McDavid called later and was very straightforward and said his add on cost is 350 which is fair price to pay. My no hassle previous quote for EXL I4 Automatic was 24.4 k with add on accessories (protection pkg.) plus 100k power train warranty by Mr. Hargis @ Rusty Wallis . He emailed me that offer good thru 10/31/2011 but you should be able get it in Nov.
BTW the best time to but cars in DFW is (Jan/12-Feb/12) after snow/ice day when sales plummet and no one wants to drive a new car on icy road!
The invoice difference between EX and EX-L is 2,200. I think 24.2k for EXL is doable and 22k for EX is doable. These are all very good deals thousands below invoice and you will get a car that doesnt depreciate a lot.
Good luck!
If you have time and patience and know the low market price
With protection package you can get it for 22k - 22.5k you have a good deal. The sales tax is 6.25% and title and license is about 180 and doc. fee should be 175-190 which is okay. Ask for drive out or out of door price on phone before heading to dealership. Recheck his numbers again they have tendency of slipping some bogus fees like mkt.
End of month is best time to close deal since they have monthly sales target to meet!
A. Lookmanjee
I got the car over the weekend.
Costs:
19,876
Plus Tax @ 6.25%
40 USD temporary tags
Total: 21,158 USD (OTD), + cost of registering in Dallas TX.
Drove from Sunday 8:30 am to Monday 8:15 am to Dallas (total of 1400 miles)
Here is the deal, the experience of the dealership was of the WalMart type (positively) no pressure to buy, no change in prices previously communicated over phones/emails.
Other car dealers sucked in Dallas area, bait & Switch, communicated prices would change because they don't include Destination & Handling, deal ads etc etc. and other stupid fees
Costs:
19,876
Plus Tax @ 6.25%
40 USD temporary tags
Total: 21,158 USD (OTD in Maryland), + cost of registering in Dallas TX.
Only think i noticed was that the gas tank was not really full, i had to fill in 3 gallons to get it to full, (The fuel indicator was near full , but a wee bit below the full mark, guess thats just skimping) else it was perfectly all right.
Yes.. that's right... and you can look at my other recent messages for more details.
See my recent posts, i have documented my experience with dealer ship... no games for sure.
I drove in record time as well.. 1400 miles.. within (less than) 25 hrs, which included around 5 hours of breaks (gas/coffee/water/sleep/food)
I have driven more in India, i reasoned that i can do that here too in US.
I was having the option of shipping for 700 bucks + return fare to dallas for around 200 USD total cost of not driving was around 900 USD.
Last time i shipped my car from california, bay area to Dallas, my car was damaged by constant rubbing of another car's number plate and the car was practically new only 500 miles added on to the odometer, hence i hesitated to get the car shipped.
Valley Honda in Aurora--on email gave me these quotes (includes destination)
Honda Accord 2012 EX Sedan (no leather, 4 cyl) 21,829
Honda Accord 2012 EXL (leather) Sedan 4 cycl 23,994
Honda Accord 2012 EXL V6 25,827 (we bought this last night)
Jab R was our salesperson. Nice guy! very patient. Financing was 1.9 percent for 5 yrs.
I could only get it for 36 months.
Hope that helps.
1) Did you pay in cash or took loan? if loan, Did you get the 0.9% rate and for how many years.
2) Did you contact the internet sales manager via email or did you call them up directly and negotiated directly. Also, can you tell me the contact person name who gave you the deal.
3) How many miles were on the car you purchased?
Thanks in advance and all the best on your excellent buy.