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Ultimately, we had to get the car from Eugene, worked with Burien Toyota and they had a driver fetch the car for us from Eugene, which played a major role since I didn't have to take a day off or go over the weekend to get the car, our prior car (Lexus GS 350) was totaled and we needed a new car pronto.
No doubt, if I was not in a hurry, would have waited till end of month and then tried to get another 300-400 off but I tried that last month and didn't work out in seattle. On the positive side, got $400 off from toyota so total was $27427 for MSRP of $31188, dealer invoice was $28027. Plus they tacked on a doc charge which was not disclosed earlier so I had them give me a $50 gas voucher in lieu of the doc fee. All in all, we were pretty satisfied, its hard to commute with a single car in seattle when you have 2 people working with a daycare drop/pickup.
Last week I started asking for quotes from dealerships in the Portland area. All of them were giving me a quote of 500 dollar OVER invoice except for Gresham Toyota which straight off the bat gave me a price of 100 under invoice. I emailed other dealerships and all of them told me to go buy from Gresham Toyota.
My mom really needed a car because her last car died and she needed a car to go to work but I was stuck in Eugene (maybe I should of tried the Eugene dealership also) because it was the weekend before finals and I couldn't afford to waste studying time to go to dealerships and spend all day negotiating.
My mom got really anxious to get a new car but she has no knowledge on pricing or negotiating at all, so I just told her to go to Gresham Toyota and just tell them you'll only buy for 19,000. My mom ended up settling for 19400 but if I was there I probably would of gotten them to go down to 19,000 eventually.
Thats an awsome good deal. Can you please tell me which dealership you got your car? Also what was the MSRP? Which color did you get.
Well enjoy your new ride and hopefully I'll be able to find one too.
Thankyou
Silver
MSRP was $31K -$32k I think.
It took them several days to get me the car b/c I wanted silver and it was a hard color to find with the features that I wanted. They ended up bringing a car in from North Carolina.
Honestly, I am not sure if it was a great deal. I probably could have negotiated a few hundred lower. However, I was happy with the price, so it worked for me.
Thanks
I had gotten the lexus from Portland dealer last year but that was easy as I took the train to Portland and the dealer picked me up @ the train station, spend 1.5 hrs @ the dealership and I was back home in 3 hours, total was less that 8 hrs in all.
Eugene was an entirely different ball game and so was glad I only had to go to Burien to get the car.
I tried all the major dealers in seattle, Toyota of Bellevue would not even come down from their invoice a bit, though they do offer 3 free services which probably is the same but I prefer to negotiate in the price vs getting 3 free services and they were not sure if they could fetch the car for me anyway.... Worst was lake city toyota, rude person named Jim Dawson. Once we finalized the price via email, he flipped the car on me, said that "for this price, you can only get this car", if you want the car we were talking about, then you need to pay more. :mad: I was glad all this was via email, atleast didn't waste my time at the dealership. Same was toyota of kirkland, manager named CJ Singh, first he indicated he can match and under cut Burien Toyota but then after a day of discussion, backed out and said "come down, lets talk". I didn't waste my time anymore with him, a friend of mine had a similar experience, he went down to the dealership and they didn't give him the price they had discussed on the phone.
Some of the seattle area dealers are very sneaky, got to be careful, Burien Toyota was a breeze to work with, everything was via email / phone and they really worked to get me the car I wanted. Obviously, they did make money but atleast it was easy for me.
Also, is it better to buy the '09 right now?
Anyone see anything wrong with this thinking?
sc
Also, that is the first heard of paying $28 extra for "DMV electronic filing."
Might as well let them file by mail. There is no rush and, if anything, they probably should be discounting it rather than charging extra since it's a convenience to them.
It's only a few extra dollars in a $24K transaction, but that actually makes it that more annoying for them to nickel and dime that fee since they can pay a flat $200 per month fee for all their cars.
The $55 doc fee is already supposed to be paying for their time spent submitting the DMV paperwork. Now you get to be charged two fees.
I agree with jaxs1 that comparing % of list price across cars does not work well. You have ot look at each model, and see what the market is for those.
Right now, I have seen $4K off MSRP for 2008 and $3K off MSRP for 2009 Camry Hybrid (fully loaded). That should be the starting point for your negotiations. I've heard some people improve upon those numbers, depending on the region and the desperation of the sales force/dealer to make their sales numbers.
What does anybody think? good deal? not bad? could be better? what price do you think i can argue with. They said its the price they buy it at.
please help! :confuse:
Sticker was $16,988+fees
The manufacturer warranty is 3yrs/36K so we knew we only had another 8K miles on it. We were offered an additional 4yrs/48K extended warranty for $1500.
After haggling with the dealer for a bit, we were able to get the car for:
$14,500+tax @ 8.25% (license fee was already covered for 1 yr)
$1500 extended warranty
Total: $16000+tax
OTD: $17330
What do you guys think? Did we walk away with a decent deal?
08 V6 LE VSC 21350 (after rebate) + fees & tax?
OTD: $17330
What do you guys think? Did we walk away with a decent deal?
I don't want to hurt your feeling but this is a good example to those who think they don't want to buy new cars because they can get a 2 years old car for a lot less money.
Well, for you, you can get a new for around 18K +TTL. So, for 2K extra, you get full 3/5 years warranty. Also, with 30K miles, it means 60 to 70% of brakes and tires are already gone.
Spending $2K extra would have increased the lease payment per month, which we weren't interested.
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Edit:
We put $10k down, and financed the rest, at 6.98% which comes out to be about $175/mo. We were looking to pay less than that monthly, but paying more for the down payment wasn't possible.
His deal is $145,00. Not bad, but not good either. Average. For me, I will not want to buy $1500 extended warrant. For me, I will go for new one too, as gooddeal2 says.
2008 Toyota Hybrid
Option C Package + Floor Mats
MSRP: $30,069
Quote: $27,508 + Tax
If not, that is a super-sucky price and you should run like the dickens.
If yes, then the price is not that good; you should be able to get it $300-600 cheaper.
Can they do that? I don't think so right. I have the right to not sign anything. any thought would be great.
Sounds very bizarre. Maybe you should just give it back and take the free 3 week car rental rather than deal with them any further.
The car isn't yours, until financing is approved.. So, it's either sign the papers or give the car back. If you give the car back, and the 0% financing is over, you'll be out of luck.
Since they just want to back-date the contract by a day, why not just sign the papers? You aren't out anything, other than your payment possibly being due one day earlier in the month.
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They are probably going to pull a bait and switch on you ... try to get you to renegotiate for a longer term or raise the price somehow. Tell them you'll give the car back. :mad:
Something similar happened to me about 10 years ago. They said I forgot to sign a form. When I went there to resign, the whole deal changed and I would have had to pay much more, monthly. I walked out and the dealership couldn't do anything.
He should be able to go back and get his down payment back, but there is no way he can keep the car if the financing was never completed.
Instead of forging paperwork, what should probably happen is a new contract written up that reduces the cost of the car so the total cost of payments will be the same as what he originally agreed to even after paying the interest on a new loan. Then they should throw something extra in for his time and hassle of coming back and redoing the papers.
They could also refinance it at the best terms they can get then just write him a check for the extra interest cost and be done with it.
The dealer should eat the cost for their mistake and that's probably still less than what it will cost them if he returns the car and they have to resell it as a used car.
Something sounds really fishy about them taking weeks to find this problem.
Someone is lying. Either the poster or the dealership.
I tried to correct it by going back but that just created a new entry, leaving the, incorrect one. Anyway, I paid $25,500 ($24,500 after the $1K cash back) for a 2008 Camry Hybrid, all options except NAV. Gregf2 Can you delete the second entry?
Thanks (sorry)
Still, enjoy the car - it's a great value for what you get.
Thanks, it really is a great car.
>24,500 for a 2008 TCH is okay...you should have been able to get it for a grand >less...(they are running 3K less than MSRP for 2009, 4K less for 2008.
As far as prices though....my car has an MSRP of $29,500 (all options except NAV). The sales sheet from Toyota, Edmunds and Kelly have similar numbers.
Are we talking about the same options?
Thanks.
2009 4 door LE sedan = $19,900
16 inch alloys = $804
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) [12] with Traction Control (TRAC) = $650
Total = $ 21354
Taxes + title+registration+Doc fee = $1517
Total = $22871.
Platinum plan ( 7 year, 100K with $0 deductable) = $885
Paint Protection = $230
Rust Undercoat = $230
Final Total = $24216
Is this a good deal ? And Do i really need the platinum plan, the paint protection and the rust undercoat ? I plan on keeping the car for no longer than 3 years and the only reason i am leaning towards the Platinum plan, paint protection and undercoating is that it would add value to the car when I would be selling it.. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. thank you.
If it is Toyota ExtraCare and not a third party "Platinum" warranty, the warranty price sounds good.
The alloy wheels are overpriced (nearly double the MSRP).
They are charging full MSRP for the VSC.
Paint and rust protection are junk.
How much over invoice are you paying for the car with the factory options of VSC and alloy wheels?
The paint and rust protection isn't worth anything, so you would be better off getting it removed or just consider you are paying $460 more or $610 more with doc fee and decide if that's still good enough.