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I have no idea what is going to happen with the 2003 model, the 2002 can be had at or near invoice depending on who you ask.
Make sure you know what to expect as to options, go to www.toyota.com to see how the car is made in your area.
I just bought a Camry XLE for $500 under Invoice, but I'm sure the Dealer still made money on the deal (probably got $1500 "Incentive" from Toyota)
The best deal I found was through CarsDirect.com. They quotes a price $300 less than the best deal I was able to find. Plus they found the exact color/options I was looking for. (only 5% of Camry's are dark blue and even less where japanese made)
I did have to drive 30 mile to pick up the car, but it was worth it.
lunar mist/stone cloth XLE 4 with side/curtain airbags, JBL+cd changer, 16" alloys, and floor mat set.
It was slightly under 23,500 out the door, but I can't remember the exact figure...
The deal is from a N. VA dealer.
Gary
Western PA
Graystone Pearl Metalic
Is it different from invoice which we can see frequently?
And could you let me know the dealer?
If possible, email me to ysk1814@hanmail.net.
Thanks,
I noticed that this car was assembled in Japan not in Kentucky. Are all manual transmission models come from Japan? The tires I have are Goodyear Integrity. It's okay for now but I might upgrade to 16" alloy wheels.
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As for the Holdback, this is included on the sticker? The holdback is what the dealer receives from the manufacturer, it is not a charge that is passed on to the consumer, or at least it shouldn't be! Check out Dealer Holdback for more info.
I picked up a Camery XLE 4cyl for $600 UNDER invoice. There where no extra fees, just tax & lic.
If I buy a widget form you for $10.00
It will cost me $1.00 to to sale the widget to someone else
I now have $11.00 in the widget
Even though I paid $10.00 for the widget the invoice says $11.00 and $11.00 is what I finace at the bank per widget
I sell the widget for $13.00 to a customer!!!!! (good price for a widget)
I pay off the bank the $10.00 for the cost of the widget
THE BANK SENDS ME BACK THE EXTRA $1.00 THAT I FINANCED IN WITH THE WIDGET (THAT IS THE HOLDBACK)
I made $2.00 profit on the widget over what it cost me to buy and stock the widget!
MSRP $13.00
cost $10.00
holdback $1.00
profit $2.00
In looking through the owners' manual I can't find anything about routine do it yourself maintenence, oil change and capacities. I guess this way they think you have to take it back to the dealer every 5000 mile.
Car purchased:
2002 Camry SE V6
Option Package #2
Floor and Trunk Mats
Purchased from:
Rice Toyota
Greensboro, NC
Edmunds MSRP: $25,239
Edmunds Invoice: $22,264
Price paid: $23,376 - includes $565 Admin fee for Southeast Toyota that Edmunds does not include
By my calculation I paid $348 over TMV.
Did take advantage of 3.9% financing for 60 months.
Background: Definately wanted SE V6. Love the SE's metallic style inside and out. Wanted the 16" wheels and ABS that are standard on SE. Preference was for cloth seats. Color choices were open except for black or white. Option package #2 (or better) was available on all SE's we evaluated. Needless to say, our self-imposed choices severely limited our selection.
Dealer Experience:
Rice Toyota - Greensboro, NC
We drove 1.5 hours to look at cars at this dealership. Have purchased two cars from them in the past, both good experiences. Saleman was courteous. Had to go to remote lot to look at car. The car had 18 miles on it. Salsa Red with charcoal black cloth seats. Black and chrome exterior trim. Black and grey interior upholstery with gun metal trim accents. Still had plastic covering seats and trim. Had the 16" five spoke alloy wheels. Bridgestone Turenza P215/60R16 tires. Clearance price was $23,376. Given our self-imposed limitations, this price was within my tolerance of no more than $500 over invoice (including fees that I've never got any budge on in the past).
Fred Anderson Toyota - Raleigh, NC - BAD BAD BAD
Had pre-owned 2002 SE V6, 5000 miles, opt pkg 2, ash tray. Clearance price $25,995. This price is over the MSRP for this car with these options! They knew ahead that we were coming to look at this car, so I believe that they thought they could jam this price on us. This car also had 16" steel wheels with "deluxe" wheel covers installed instead of 16" alloy wheels which are standard on SE. If you go there for an SE, WATCH OUT!. I noticed they did this to many of the SE's. But they still charge for the real standard SE features which INCLUDES alloy wheels. Looks to me like they are ripp'in SE buyers for about $500 by this tatic. Maybe someone can explain this, but I'm so alarmed and pissed that it's very likely they will NEVER see me again.
Toyota of Sanford - Sanford NC
This is another Fred Anderson dealership, which makes it suspect. But I did not visit. See above.
Leith Toyota - Raleigh NC
Bought my 2000 Tundra here. Decent sales staff. Good service department, once you get past the know nothing "service associates". Did not get to visit them, but would have been the next dealer after Rice.
Cox Toyota - Burlington NC
On-line inventory show two SE's with cloth seats. When we got there, they had no SE's on the lot.
Mid-State Toyota - Asheboro, NC
On-line inventory listed no SE's with cloth seats.
Durham Toyota - Durham NC
The one time we visited them, after explaining exactly what we were looking for, the salesman told us that he had the exact car we on the lot. Once we showed up he said he misunderstood my needs, and then tryed to sell us on an XLE and Avalon. A dealership wastes my time only once.
Van York Toyota - High Point NC
Did not get to their lot. Had purchased from them in the distant past (1981) and they were excellent at the time.
Well, this one's behind me. Any constructive comments are appreciated.
Other than that, all other prices (base, opt. #7, etc.) are exactly the same.
Can someone explain the difference? I know the dealer will probably want the higher price and if KBB is incorrect....so be it. But if not, I'd sure like to keep the extra $410.
Thanks.
you bought from ?
Test drove a Camry XLE (4 cylinder) with essentially the HE package (leather, 6 disc changer, aluminum alloy wheels) and thank god no sunroof (I'm 6 foot five and every inch of head room is important to me).
I liked the vehicle, and decided to see what the salemsan would offer. The color was this neat blue/green (hard to tell--it was raining) that I'm hoping is what they call the aspen green.
Edmunds states this car should be $22,289. The car already had 250 miles on it, which to me, combined with the fact that its a year 2002 model, should lower the cost. As well, I noticed that instead of putting the HE package as one cost, they had itemized it, and it made it much more pricey.
Well, salesman said invoice (which he printed out), was 22696, and no way they were going to sell the car under invoice. He would make no adjustment for the mileage at all, and stated that maybe this was "too much car for you." He implied I could offer $100 over invoice, but I left.
This seems to be my experience anytime I try to get near TMV for the Austin, TX area. Am I nuts for trying? Should I just give up? I enjoyed the car and the ride a bunch, but another will always come along. I just wonder that since these cars have such a great rep., and just a few dealers in town, if they'll ever be reasonable.
Only extras were glass etching, and wood grain (not researched those, don't know what those mean/worth) which added 278 to the cost of vehicle?
Any opinions, please?
The site recommends offering invoice to start, still a savings over what you were quoted.
This is my first time buying a car, and I need your helps The car I like is 02 Camry XLE with carpeted floor mat and side-impact air bags and the dealer offered $21,650 + tax and $153 (for documentation, state inspection, and license plate fees). Is this a fair price? Can anyone recommand some dealers in the NYC area?
Thanks!
Car was purchased at Carlson Toyota in Anoka, MN a suburb of Minneapolis. It was one of the best car buying experiences of my life(I'm 55).
Went to Maplewood Toyota, but they wouldn't deal. They treated me very badly and would not deal at all. Was offered $2,000 for Concorde and would not move off of sticker price.
We love our Toyotas. We also have a 2001 Sienna.
I've bee out of the country in Europe for a couple of weeks and wonder if the )% is going to continue and maybe include Toyota in November everywhere
So The real price is $21.500.00 Out the Door (car in my house and $ 21.500 out my pocket)No salespersons to deal with, only internet fleets managers. It is the best deal.
Somebody wants to have the big gun in hand, OK, Go to this site: FightingChance.com. There is the real invoice price of the dealers. It's cost 57.60 in your door with the book and 2 days shipping. You could save a couple thousands.
Best wishes at forum
Brand new (non-demo) 2003 Toyota Camry LE with anti-lock brakes, power driver's seat, keyless entry, upgraded stereo and full set of carpeted floormats:
$19343.00 (Our selling price to you)
967.15 (5% state sales tax.......this assumes no trade-in vehicle!)
86.00 (State fees for new registration and new title. This fee is $15 less if plates are transferred)
59.00 (Our dealership document-processing fees. This is the lowest doc fee in eastern N.E.)
$20,455 This is the total you will write your check for.
2 MONTHS AGO 02 CAMRY/AUTO WAS ADVERTISED AND SOLD IN PORTLAND,OR FOR $16,497.