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Ford Freestyle - Taurus X

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  • ANT14: Muchas Gracias (Thank you very much).

    Yeah! I can post without doubling... =)

    Sam
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Si tienes otra preguntas, regresa . :)

    (if you have any other questions, return)
  • joyelysejoyelyse Posts: 21
    A bunch of people have mentioned better gas milage. Any idea of what that would be?
  • I heard numbers ranging from 25 to 28. Ford credits the CVT for that.

    Subject to "actual sticker in glass" verification.

    Sam
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    The FWD Sienna is rated at 27 Hwy. It will be a disappointment if the Freestyle can't do better than that, since it is a smaller, lighter weight vehicle with less power.
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    Sienna 27 Hwy MPG is with premium fuel only. With regular, you get some 25 (I think). Freestyle will use regular.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    numbers are due to the CVT.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Real world experiences with highway MPG is almost impossible to acheive frequently...Maybe going downhill with a rush of wind behind you. The way the EPA tests these vehicles, and how companies "tweak" them to attain those number's, are common tricks and the industry.

    Cas ein point, Toyota's Prius...realistically it doesn't reach number's near what the window sticker states...Instead of reading the number's biblically, just think "Very good, good, average, bad" and that's how they should be read.
  • nedc2nedc2 Posts: 192
    I've managed to get signifcantly better than EPA rated highway mileage out of almost every vehicle I've driven, e.g. ~31 mpg out of a '92 Crown Vic and over 40 mpg out of my '87 Escort. It requires disciplined driving, decent weather, and patience. Lots of patience;)
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,575
    EPA fuel mileage stickers could change (MLive.com)

    I usually get around the estimate on the EPA sticker.

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  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    I'm lucky to even achieve CTY MPG that's on the sticker, as HWY MPG ....
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,702
    it's ok to activate the overdrive while you are on the highway. :)
    with my explorer, i'm in the range(14 city, 19 highway). did hit 20 a couple of times, dropped below city number plenty of times, by an mpg or so(winter gas). :(
    freestyle is about a foot longer than my explorer, so i think it's too long.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    That IS with the overdrive activited ! :-) I just have a lead foot though.

    The Freestyle will be an inch or 2 longer than a Taurus which itself is 2 inches shorter than a Freestar. So it's pretty much all close.... The Explorer seems huge to some because it's taller, but I usually tell people it's really 10-11 inches shorter than a Taurus.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,702
    an explorer is really 10-11 inches shorter than a Taurus. just another reason i think the explorer is a great design.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Exactly, trucks as SUV's, are better able to package their mechanicals since they are off the ground, therefore allowing for better efficient use of space. I'm interested on seeing how much better it'll be done on the next generation of mid-size SUV's coming from Ford based on the Mazda6 platform.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,702
    i'm old school; so i still prefer a rwd bias.
    we just bought an '04 escape, but i still like the feel of my explorer better.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    I'm religious about V8 and RWD. I've test driven almost everything, and many on closed courses superceeding normal driving behaviors, and I'll still stick to RWD and V8.

    Granted, it's good to know there's many options/differences, in the markets that will pretty much please everyone's taste....diversity in the marketplace.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I normally get above EPA numbers in my Odyssey, mainly because I don't have a lead foot.
  • I'm pleased to say I saw the Freestyle.

    According to the Ford rep, it's one of the seven or so Freestyles in existence. They only make prototypes at this stage. No one could get in, but the rep gave me a few anecdotes.

    * He saw a 6'7" dude get into the third row, and he had headroom. His legs did touch the second row, and was harder to get out than in.
    * A couple, one feet apart in height, got into the driving position. Both could access all controls OK.

    I was quite impressed with the Freestyle. Looks a lot better in person (in car?), as others said before.

    Some (not all)colors announced for it:
    * Black
    * Merlot
    * Pearl Blue (Dark Blue)
    * Norsea Blue (Lighter than Pearl)
    * "Metallic Tundra" or something sounding like that (gray & green shade)

    They plan to start sending the brochures on Freestyle within a month. They were finishing the layout, etc. I enrolled there, and did so on the fordvehicles.com as well. I bet if you are on the list, you'll get it.

    I also got digi-photos.

    Sam
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    If you have pictures, please post them.
  • I have a few, trying to take a picture in a hyper-crowded event was difficult. (I have ten plus pictures of passer-byes =(. Fortunately, digicams lets you shoot a zillion. Unfortunately, I'm not a real photographer.

    * Front
    * Side
    * Dashboard from outside
    * Seating rows from rear glass
    * Back

    Moderators, and room experts, how can I post the pictures? Yes, I'm still a rookie.

    Sam
  • The reps told me the base will run about $26K. The Limited will reach $34K. (I presume these are MSRPs, and I hope "loaded" configurations.)

    I was disheartened on those news. But I still love the vehicle. It has the same "great car" feeling of the Contour when I bought mine. (Yes, this is a me-biased opinion.)

    They also said there won't be any rebates. I quote, Ford "made a good marketing effort on the price". Translated: they figured the "cash cow point" upfront =(. FYI, the 500 ranges $22->29K.

    As I see it, they're pricing each version just below/about the same as the equivalent-trim Explorer. (See fordvehicles.com for XLS, XLT, & Limited pricing.) And the Explorer has $3K rebates.

    This would be a long and hard decision for some. Not me. I didn't like the Explorer 3rd row nor the gas mileage.

    If my 1996 Contour dies before the Freestyle release, I may jump to the Sport Track or F150. It also gives me an excuse to wait for the Duratec 35 Freestyle ;).

    Sam
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Be aware that most all manufacturers always say there will be no rebates. Why would they say anything else? They want you to buy as soon as the vehicle becomes available, and they are not going to pass up a chance to get full price out of a vechicle that may well be able to command full pricing.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    MSRP for a loaded Explorer V6 is almost $40,000. I wouldn't think a loaded Freestyle would be a lot less than that.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,575
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  • Ladies & Gentlemen:

    Here's my photo-share site for my pictures.
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    Link = http://photos.yahoo.com/servant1993

    Sam
  • These are just a few words to describe what you see. Please note it's a Limited, so it has features similar to the equivalent-trim Explorer.

    0190 - Front of the vehicle.
    0191 - Side, looking diagonal from behind car driver side.
    0193 - Dashboard. You may see below dash left of brake pedal the Hood Release. Lights & wiper controls are on each side of the steering wheel. Cruise Control is at the wheel's left, radio/CD controls at right. The pedal adjust is right of headlight switch. Mirror control is at door (dash far left).
    0227 - Back.
    0183 - Rear window view. The third row seat is one side up, the other flat. Second row has center console (also available on 60/40 split). You can also see the first row console.

    Emergency Brake is on bottom ("3rd pedal" configuration). Note:
    * 18" Wheels look great on it.
    * The "hump" giving headroom to the third row. (Rear portion of roof rack.)
    * The privacy glass, like most minivans & SUVs.
    * If you can't see that third stop light, you shouldn't be driving =).

    The glimpse of a face in the rear window picture is my wife's. She really likes it. I enthusiastically second the motion.

    Sam
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    Sam
  • I tried the following after logging out of their site, so this time should be right.

    Link = http://community.webshots.com/user/figuesam

    Sorry for the technical difficulties.

    Sam
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    I get:

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