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1. Do I have to order with a dealer or online? What are the steps of ordering?
2. If order with a dealer, can I still negotiate with the dealer for any incentives or have to pay MSRP?
3. Any prior experiences?
Thanks a lot folks.
1. Do I have to order with a dealer or online? What are the steps of ordering?
2. If order with a dealer, can I still negotiate with the dealer for any incentives or have to pay MSRP?
3. Any prior experiences?
Good for you. Taking delivery at the Performance Center is a great experience. I've done it twice.
To answer your questions...
1. You simply tell the dealer when you place your order that you wish to pick up the car at the Performance center. There are no additional charges, and BMW will put up up at the nearby Marriot the night before. And feed you. And take you via bus to the PC the next morning. All you do is pay for your transportation to SC.
2. There is absolutely no difference in the way you negotiate the price for your vehicle, whether you take delivery at the dealer or the Performance Center. NONE!
3. Its a fantastic experience, and you get the opportunity to drive the crap out of some BMW's in a way that you would never treat your own car (at least, I wouldn't!).
Go to BMW's web-site. There are many details on the PC delivery...
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Experience/Events/PDS/ProgramsandCourses/- DeliveryProgram.aspx
1. I thought negotiation was normally for cars in the lot. Should I negotiate with internet manager or just walk in?
2. How long does the delivery take, from placing the order? A few days to weeks?
2. How long does the delivery take, from placing the order? A few days to weeks?
1. When purchasing a car, EVERYTHING is negotiable, whether its a lot sale or special order. Just don't expect a BMW dealer to give you the same deal you see advertised at a Hyundai or Chevrolet dealer. Also, check the BMW site for special deals. Believe it or not, they often offer a better deal if you finance instead of pay cash. It just depends on when you buy and what's being offered at the time. As for the method, why not try both over the internet and in person? I see no downside to going that route.
2. Delivery depends on the model you select. If you're buying a model produced in SC (X series), I would roughly estimate anywhere from 3-6 weeks. A lot of that timing depends upon what the dealer has "queued" up in the production cycle, and what he has available to modify for your order. If its a model being imported (say, a 3-series), expect a time frame from 6-8 weeks. Usually, it doesn't take long for the build, but you can expect to spend as much time in transport as in every other phase combined.
The good thing is that once you buy, your dealer will give you (he should, anyway) the build order # within 24 hours, and you can track you car's progress from order placement to delivery on the BMW web-site, on a daily (or hourly, if you want to) basis.
One last note: Spend some time on the BMW web-site, and get very familiar with your choices. Know them inside and out before placing your order or making your purchase. Also, when you "ink" the deal, you will be offered several "options"...wheel/tire insurance, extended warratny/service agreements, interior protection, etc. All of these options "ain't cheap". Give some thought to these extras before you decide. They can easily add $10K to the "out the door" price. You have to decide which to purchase, and which are worth purchasing.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Enjoy your ride.
I've leased all of my cars going back 15 years now, but I've never had such a hard time getting honest numbers from a dealer. I've been quoted 3 different residuals and 3 different money factors on the same car with the same terms. I'm hoping someone can give me the real numbers.
I'm looking at a 2011 335d for 36 months, 10k miles. Sounds simple enough, right?
The best deal I've been quoted (after a good amount of back and forth) is:
2k total drive-off fees
691, including tax (9.75% in los angeles)
This is on a car w/ m-sport pkg, premium pkg, ipod, smartphone, heated seats, satellite radio. MSRP: 55225, neg. price: 48455 (this includes the 4500 eco-credit).
How close to reasonable is this?
335 sedan
Jet Black
Black leather interior
Sport Package
Automatic; Steptronic with paddle shifters
Fold down rear seat
MSRP is $ 46,950
Selling Price offered is $ 45,150
15K miles per year
36 month lease
58% residual
Lease factor of .00210
$ 2000 down
Lease for 36 mos and 15K miles per year is $ 727.92 and $ 703.06 for 12K miles
Owner's Choice for 36 mos at 15K mile/year is $ 683.27 or $ 658 for 12K miles
This is the first offer from the salesperson.
What should we be expecting and is this is a good deal or not?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Given you guys are all experts, I was hoping you could give me your opinion on these quotes for a new lease I am looking at. The specs of the car are below as well as the final lease prices I was able to negotiate. Thank you so much!
Alpine White / Saddle Brown Dakota Leather / Dark Burl Walnut
2011 328i Coupe
Base Price U.S.A. $36,200
205 STEPTRONIC automatic transmission $1,375
494 Heated front seats $500
639 BMW Assist with Bluetooth $750
688 Harman Kardon $875
6FL iPod Value Package
6NF Smartphone Integration $150
302 Anti-theft alarm $400
322 Comfort Access $500
459 Power front seats Value Package
508 Park Distance Control $750
LC Leather Dakota $1,450
ZMP M Sport Package $3,000
7XA Sport steering wheel w/paddles $100
Destination & Handling $875
MSRP $46,925
Lease Prices:
36 months, 10,000 miles, $2,035.52 drive-off, $0 cap reduction, monthly payment of $560.36+tax=$615.00
Given you guys are all experts, I was hoping you could give me your opinion on these quotes for a new lease I am looking at. The specs of the car are below as well as the final lease prices I was able to negotiate. Thank you so much!
Alpine White / Saddle Brown Dakota Leather / Dark Burl Walnut
2011 328i Coupe
Base Price U.S.A. $36,200
205 STEPTRONIC automatic transmission $1,375
494 Heated front seats $500
639 BMW Assist with Bluetooth $750
688 Harman Kardon $875
6FL iPod Value Package
6NF Smartphone Integration $150
302 Anti-theft alarm $400
322 Comfort Access $500
459 Power front seats Value Package
508 Park Distance Control $750
LC Leather Dakota $1,450
ZMP M Sport Package $3,000
7XA Sport steering wheel w/paddles $100
Destination & Handling $875
MSRP $46,925
Lease Prices:
36 months, 10,000 miles, $2,035.52 drive-off, $0 cap reduction, monthly payment of $560.36+tax=$615.00
.00007 deduction for up to 7 extra MSDs...
Total reduction of .00049 available..
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Cap is 48500 after incentive.
Can anyone advise me if this is a good deal?
Thank you
Also realize that manual wagons are rare & do not hold their value when it comes to trade in time. Most likely the owner probably didn't get top dollar, so the CPO price is highly negotiable.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I tend to drive about 9k a year. You make good points about thinking about higher miles and the care someone likely took of the car. Again, the free maintenance program likely helped with that. However I might go the automatic route as there are more that are equiped with premium and xenon which i desire (but don't need). One thing I neglected to mention is that I do about 4 track days a year which argues for manual. But I should not let that effect the other 361 days of the year.
Wondering whether die hard manual folks like me will somehow wither and die with an automatic.
I wouldn't worry about 40K on a 3series. See if you can get a copy of the service history. My mom has an '08 328xi with 53K & it is solid as a rock.
See what they did to CPO the car. New brakes? Tires? When you start the car, how long does it say before the next service?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Please help in validating this lease offer (Westchester, NY). Please be honest and confirm if its a little fat...
Model:
2011 328i xDrive
Sedan
Automatic
Metallic
Premium Package
Value Package
Heated Steering Wheel
MSRP- $40,240.00
Selling Price- $38,500.00
Lease: 36 month/ 12K
Taxes (8.125%)- $1,475.43
Residual- 62%/ $24,948.80 Amt
Money Factor- 0.00170
Security Deposit- $500.00
Bank Fee- $725.00
Total Upfront Fee: $3,282.21
License & Reg: $124.00
Doc Fee: $75.00
Deposition Fee Upon Return: $340.00
Monthly Payment: $484.28
Model:
2008 328i BMW 4 Dr Sedan. (CPO)
20,000 miles
Black/Black
Automatic
Heated front seats
Ipod/USB integration
Dealer is quoting a price of $29,900. What do you think is the best price for making an offer ?
Please let me know
I am in the process of closing a deal on 328xi 2007 model. It has
1. 32,500 miles
2. Premium Pkg
3. Winter Pkg
The dealer had intially offered 29k, and now offereing 25.5k + additional costs.
The additional cost, He is asking for 7% tax (which is okay), + 200$ registration fees + 400$ Documentation Fee?
Can somebody tell me if 400$ documentation fee is reasonable or too much charged by the dealer? And how much should the registration and title transfer fees should be?
I am in New Jersey Area.
Is this a good deal?
They can't overcharge you registration. It is an estimate and they need to refund you any difference after the fact. I usually get a check for a few bucks back from a dealer.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Not much inventory left. The best deal I can find is $35,245 with metallic paint, automatic transmission, premium package, heated front seats, and Sirius radio as the only add ons.
Should I go for this, or try to make a better deal on a 2011?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks.
Well-equipped with Premium Package, Value Package, Automatic Transmission and Destination charges
$359*/month for 36 months
Vehicle Registerd outside N.Y.
$359 First months payment
$3,500 Down payment
$400 Security Deposit
$725 Acquisition fee
$4,984 Cash due at signing
My guess is I could have gone $1k lower but I was comfortable with the price. It is a lot of car for $23k and a 2.5 year full warranty. Course, that new Nissan Sentra for the same price was compelling too.... or not.
I paid a $56 document fee.
And thank for the doc fee answer. Is this doc fee always applied OR only if you do the car financing ? If I decide to pay all in cash, does the dealer still apply doc fee ? (In this case, i dont see any documentation on their part other than transferring the title and registration for which i am already paying 200 odd $ )
For THAT car, trade-in value is only $17k. So, even at $23k CPO, they still made quite a strong profit.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Either way, good luck. If you need any more info, let me know. This was my first lease so I may not have the answer, but I asked a lot of questions along the way.
2011 328XI Prem Sport Valu...everything but convenience and HK sound
1k down 579 a month with PA (10.0%) TAX. 10k a year
should arrive in a couple days
i think its an awesome deal what do u think?....deal includes 1000 from BMW from the Ultimate Driving Event.
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I'm looking to purchase a new 328i sedan fairly soon. I'll probably get the convenience pkg and moonroof. Edmunds invoice pegs it at around $35k. Wondering what prices you everyone paid and what I could reasonably shoot for. I was thinking $33K. Thoughts?
He quoted MSRP of 41,500 + tax.
This car has Premium pkg + Logic 7 sound System
What is a good price to offer to the dealer for 2010 328xis?
This car has Premium pkg + Logic 7 + Black saphire + value pkg
38k otd comes to the invoice price of 35,500. The invoice price as per edmunds is 38,400.
Is this a good deal?
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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