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Honda Civic Sedan 2006
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" don't really care about the hp-difference, I care more about the tourque at low rpme (1500-3000) since that is where I drive. teh dealer Imentioned (zimbrick) is the only honda ..."
Honda engines have always been high reving low torque., ideally suited for the enthusiast that likes to shift.
If you want torque get a big ole american gas guzzling V8 or get a diesel.
If you want fun and economy, get a Honda.
If you want a bigger engine( but yet less econimical) and more torquey engine get a Mazda.
You do realize that bigger engine size means more torque and even more refined look at the stroke compared to the bore. The longer the stroker the slower reving, lower rpm and higher take-off ( low RPM) torque.
Cheers,
MidCow
P.S.- The Si is even better!
The first time I have seem CR pick a winmner and write the article biased toward that end.
I think the new Si is a very good car and will be getting one soon as a "commuter" car.
Having said that, I was really impressed with the Mazda 3 5-speed 2.3 hatchback. It is an excellent car also with a lot better 4 year 50,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty.
Honda has increased powertrain warranty to 5/60K but still is a 3/36K on everything else.
Cheers,
MidCow :shades:
will soon be double cruis'n in 6th 2005 Accord Coupe and 2006 Civic Si Coupe.
Anyway, I think the back of the Civic Coupe looks great, but then again I am not even close to the normal Civic demographic.
The old guy,
MidCow
Only this year did Honda begin offering stability control on the V6 Accord. and the don't call it ESC, then specifically call it VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist).
cruis'n in 6th
MidCow
It must be an embarassment to Honda. They had so much riding on the new Civic, now this.
Are they going to give owners a free oil change or offer a loaner car for the hassle of having to return their new car to get fixed?
Actually, it sounds like almost every 2006 Civic sold has to be recalled.
Here are the VINs affected by the defect:
JHMAFA15216S000026 thru 0541
1HGFA16876L000001 thru 12981
2HGFG12836H500089 thru 09942
I don't think the throttle pedal is that complex. It seems more like a poor design on Honda's part and not an assembly problem since it seemed to affect 3 different assembly plants.
As Honda onwers we have historically paid a premium for what we perceived was a higher quality product, but as you mentioned, Honda's quality is not what it used to be and recalls and defects are more common now. Given the improved quality of the other automakers, and Honda's slipping quality, I think the price premium for 'perceived quality' will continue shrink.
I know this is a sedan forum, and I liked a test drive in an EX auto Nav sedan when they were first available, but today I briefly drove an LX 5-speed coupe, and was impressed with the fun of winding the engine up in second - as much as conditions permitted. I agree with others that the electric steering feels very light, but I bet you’d get used to it. The dealer had a spiffed up ’06 coupe on the floor with 225/40-18 tires on it, and Koya wheels, but no one could tell me the width of the wheels. The package looked great.
At 40 mph or so I thought it would be interesting to see how it felt in 5th, to see how much it felt like lugging. I committed a faux pas but learned something. I pressed the lever too far to the right, pulled it toward me and thought the radio was giving out a funny high-pitched whine, but soon realized I was trying to put it in reverse. What’s interesting is that my ’99 Camaro Z28 has a lock-out to prevent you from pushing the shift lever over to the right while going forward. Plus, believe it or not, reverse on the Z28 (which has the 6-speed Corvette transmission) has synchromesh.
The latest “Autoweek” is starting a Drivers Log with a new Si. All three testers like it, although Mandel writes, “I would like less electric steering boost.”
You don’t have to tell me, this is a dumb posting.
:P
It seems Honda is no better in quality than the rest of the market. Even Hyundai is beating Honda in quality now.
Does 0-60 in the 8.2-8.5 second range sound right to you ?
I read this on Vtec.net when they first posted it a month or so ago. It's the only test numbers to date that I've seen for any non-Si model. The numbers do sound accurate (a little better than I expected, actually). Those figures put it in the higher end of the pack at the moment.
It'll be interesting to see a comparison test of a Civic EX and competitors which I'm sure will turn up in the next few months. Hopefully the automatic version will perform better than the '05. Edmunds clocked the '05 auto EX at 10.9 0-60. I bet the new one will break the 10 second mark. The 5-speed auto should help vs. the old 4-speed.
That test was VERY unsettling to me because the RSX, Eclipse and tC all has normally aspirated engines with 155-162hp while the Cobalt SS was supercharged with 205hp. The Cobalt was also the most expensive by over $1000. They make a non-supercharged Cobalt SS with 171hp for $3200 less. Wonder where that model would have placed in comparison?
Seems really unfair (biased) to me.
P.S.- The Civic Si would have kicked all their tails. The EX probably would have as well.
Actually, it sounds like almost every 2006 Civic sold has to be recalled.
Here are the VINs affected by the defect:
JHMAFA15216S000026 thru 0541
1HGFA16876L000001 thru 12981
2HGFG12836H500089 thru 09942 Close but no cigar
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My Coupe is not on this list....If this is the correct list that is.....
Although it would have been great if the problem were not there, IMHO the fact that Honda caught the problem before customers did, is a testament to their focus on quality throughout their entire supply chain.
I'd pick a tC over a Cobalt any day, but only because I value certain qualities that are clearly spelled out as strengths in their test summary - that's why the data from CU is so valuable - you decide what's most important to you among the various criteria they use. Their point was that the tC isn't especially "sporty", which is true enough as far as it goes.
As for the new Civic, because Consumers Union BUYS all of its test cars, and then runs them all through the same testing regimen [which takes months, not days or weeks], you won't see anything on the new Civic until at least January, or more likely Feb or March in Consumer Reports. I'm predicting that the Civic sedan will be their new top choice in that class. (Since the new Si isn't even for sale yet, don't look for any report from CU on that model until late spring at the earliest.)
Thanks------ Larry
To recommend the cobalt over the other cars, I think they've been smoking a little crack.. I think the Civic Si and even the tC would be better overall values than the Cobalt..
Is it just me or the Cobalt looks like the 96-2000 civic coupe? It's eerie to me how it looks like that..
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This is the 06 Civic sedan site, not the 96 civic problem site :mad:
The RL, Insight, RSX etc are also exclusively assembled in Japan. Most CRVs are also assembled in Japan, while some CRVs are assembled in England. Some 4-Cyl Accord Sedans and 4-Cyl Civic Sedans are also assembled in Japan.
I was wondering if the 2006 Civic has a battery saver feature to save you if you leave a light on or the door slightly open overnight. I am considering ordering an aftermarket "Priority Start" device or similar to install on the battery if this feature is lacking. With 2 young kids in the house, you knever know when something like that will happen.
Anybody know? Any other accessories that I will need? Thanks.
here is the breakdown (appox)
car: $18,092.00
fog lights (msrp+install):$585.00
dealer processing fee: $159.00
TTL:$1215.16
total out the door...$20,050
i thinks it's good....what about you guys?
And yes.. Mazda3 is nice.. But it's not "cool".
If you want a "cool" car, buy Civic.
I was just wondering if there is any chance of getting a Japanese Civic in North Carolina (specifically an LX Sedan AT).
I do think Honda is gouging a bit here. You can order OEM fog lights for $150 on some other cars and I think that is reasonable. But there are a lot of ways that the dealerships try to gouge (pin striping, for example), and this is just one. Buyer beware.
My personal problem with fog lights is that many drivers do not use them appropriately and they are often not aimed correctly and the result is blinding to other drivers, but that is probably for another topic.
The serial number will start with J.......
But honestly, after installing them, I do not find it any easier to see or safer to drive in the fog with them turned on.
Yes, they look cool on a clear night....& can blind the raccoons & skunks when they try to run across the road at night(thats right....there are incidents when they are blinded by the fog lights....panic & stop in the middle of the road).
I agree that air bags, ABS, ASC, better tires & disc brakes, etc.. can be life-savers under the right conditions....but fog lights?....cost $500?......mmmmmmmm?