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D
good luck and keep us all updated on your progress
One thing I do remember my wife mentioning was that the stall problem was cured the time she delivered the car to a brand new tech at the dealer. He was very open & said they had seen a lot of these types of problems with the Pacificas, while every other service tech had claimed we were the first to report this type of problem, etc. etc.
However, on the plus side I can say that leasing the Pacifica was an absolute dream from a sales team at Dayton Chrysler in NJ. Two guys, one Caucasian and one Oriental, worked together as a sales team (I can't place their names right now). The reason I mention them is that they were just great to deal with. For the first time in my history of perhaps 8 - 10 sales and/or lease transactions these salesmen were straight arrows. They didn't try to sell me any extra useless add-ons, the payment numbers didn't twist or turn from the time we agreed to them until the time I signed the papers. It was such a nice change from the usual wrestling match getting a new car usually entails.
I am done with Chrysler and my attorney is taking the lead from this point on.
The finance arm is separate from the car business. They're both owned by DCX, but that's the end of the relationship. Regardless of what DCX does on the car, not paying your loan is credit suicide. It'll ruin your credit, and frankly, won't be a drop in the ocean to Chrysler Financial.
I sympathize with your frustration, but if you don't pay for the car you won't be able to get another car loan at an acceptable rate. You'll also take the risk that your credit card companies will increase your rate based on a falling FICO score. Most of the big issuers have such a clause in their contracts.
Hard as it may be, you HAVE to keep your loan current to preserve your credit. It's like holding a gun to YOUR head, saying, "Buy back my car or I'll shoot!"
We have a 2004 Pacifica AWD with 41K miles on it now and just recently it seems to not want to start up right away. You turn the key and nothing happens and you have to try it at least two or three times to get it to start. It never has totally refused to start but it is nerve racking nonetheless.
Our dealer was able to replicate the issue when we had it in for the 40K service but he said that it needed some part but he wasnt sure that it would fix it 100% and it would take a whole day to fix and essentially cost a lot to repair (since we are no longer under warranty of course). :mad:
So I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing anything like this?
Thanks!
For all of you including me that has been BS'ed by Daimler Chrysler and the dealers. It took me a year of phone calling and writing letters to get to this point. :mad:
"Please be advised that the district service manager has advised this office that the dealer has been unable to duplicate the owner's concern, therefore, no repairs are required at this time. We will repair per the terms of the vehicle warranty when the concerns can be duplicated. At this time, we have therefore closed our files on this complaint."
Can you believe this? I finally got them to acknowledge there is a problem then they say there is not a problem. It sort of conflicts with their dealers statement. Has anyone been able to dublicate the problem? I have tried and have been unable to. :confuse:
We bought our car in October 2005, used and have driven it appox. 6,000 miles since we have owned this car. Since then I have been in the service department 8 times with no results!!
My first issue is the fuel guage. The gauge will read 1/2 full and then drop to empty immediately! It reads 33 miles to empty, but truely has 1/2 a tank of gas.
My second issue is filling the tank. I can not get more than 3 gallons in at a time. Some kind of vapor lock.
I have been to the dealer and they replaced the tank, which did not solve any of the above mentioned problems.
I just came back from the dealer to load some corrective software - but that did not help either.
Now, I am waiting on some new part - which the dealer is not specific about - that will fix all my problems.
On top of this, the car stalls at every stop when it has about 4 to 5 gallons in the tank. Of course, at the dealership this can not be duplicated. But, they say this is due to the fuel tank. Thus far, this is not the case.
After reading all of these e-mails, I am not hopefull. I just want my car fixed and do not want to be at the dealer service center anymore. This is the most I have ever been at a dealership in my life and am now researching into the lemon law.
i had all doors open for about 15 minutes went to start it turned over real slow.then it started, i had the battery checked they said it was ok nothing wrong.i still think its the battery???NEED SOME ADVICE,car has 40,000 org battery.
Thanks for any help
Rick
Now, the engine can not possibly know that the steering wheel is turned left and just decides to stop running. The TSB 180 39 05 deals with evap system purge and some seem to think that after this service has been done stalling problem stopped. But if the evap purge was the problem then I'm sure there would be right turn stalls too and all sorts of stalls during any slow speed driving condition.
Does anybody here know if Pacifica has an oil level sensor? And if it does is it mounted closer to the left side end of the oil pan?
Just thinking that if Pacifica engine is made to cut off from low oil level it could be that if oil level sensor is located so that when turning left oil runs away from the sensor and engine cuts off as the sensor does not see oil. Then it will start right back up when stopped and oil has returned to the sensor.
Just a thought.
--Arrie--
I am having the same problem with my 04 Pacifica. I have about 45,000 on mine and it doesn't start everytime. I took to my dealer(service) and they told me it was the battery. They changed it and it is still happening. The dealer (service) could not get it to happen there, of course, and said this was what it could be and the battery was a weak, so that was one fix. I am taking to my local mechanic next week and I will see what he says. I will keep you posted.
The PAC's has faulty gas pumps especially the secondary pump that it will have you using half of a tank for driving. You will be at the gas station 4 times a week than once a week depending on your use of the car.
The stalling is coming from the faulty pump that is not keeping the gas line full of gas without getting some air into it too. Its so bad right now that the gas tank is giving off extra vapors. So you have to fill the tank slowing with the station pump half way out of the tank hole of the car or the vapor will keep clicking the station pump early and your gas tank will not be filled.
We are still waiting for new parts for the gas tank pump to fix our problem and several people in MA. has the same problem. Oh, it will get fix but the waiting time is just to long. :sick:
I am going to be contacting Chrysler directly and it would help if I could document other similar issues with Pacifica owners. My Pacifica is a 2004, but this problem may be more widespread. Please email me if you are experiencing the same issue.
Thans
Thank you!
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dclarkesr
Chevrolet did not help me with Tahoe problems either. Fuel consumption went to 13 MPG when it first 1500 miles was 17 MPG. Dealer would not fix as there was no code in computer. Tail pipe was black as the vehicle would burn a gallon of oil for 1000 miles though. Had to fix it myself while it was under factory warranty.
That is why I bought a Pacifica for my wife as my '95 1500 Dodge Ram pick-up has been so trouble free. And it looks like next vehicle for myself will be a PAC also when it becomes time to get something new to replace the Tahoe.
So far no problems at all with PAC. The only thing I went for a service was to change the car's country code to Canada to make those daytime running lights to work. Cost $0. And of course for an oil change.
Do you have the AWD? It sounds like the stalling problem really is mostly related to the second fuel pump in PAC models (AWD) where the tank has two sides in it. For a dealer it should be easy to tell the warranty company that the fuel pump is a problem as they know it is.
Idle air valve could also be a problem but you should have issues with it stalling all over. Also starting should have problems with idle air valve problems.
Arrie
Let's assume you have the latter, i.e. the engine cranks when you turn the key but does not start running. In this case it is very possible that the idle air valve does not work correctly.
In a modern car, like PAC is, engine idle speed is controlled by a separate idle air valve. This is a small by-pass air intake valve which controls engine speed when you take your foot off of the gas pedal.
(Older cars used to have the throttle equipped with a small adjustment screw that had to be set for idle position, i.e. adjust the minimum throttle opening so that the engine runs correct idle speed).
Idle air valve opening is controlled by a small step motor, which in turn is controlled by the cars computer and yes, if the idle air valve motor goes bad it can intermittently cause starting problems.
You can test for this. Next time your car won't start try giving it a little bit gas, i.e. open the throttle by pressing on the gas pedal just a little to give engine air while you crank it. If the problem is with idle air valve you should be able to start your engine this way. It also means that when you take your foot off of the gas pedal the engine could stall again, like when you come to stop. You would need to keep the throttle open for the engine to get air.
I had this problem with my Ford Crown Victoria and it was first very intermittent but got worse over time. Replacing the idle air valve (with built-in motor)completely fixed the problem (part cost was only about $65).
Arrie