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This is really a common issue with CRV, the dealer diagnosed my car said they see this happen very often. In fact they just negotiated a deal for a customer the day before, and there's another case on the same day I took my car in.
My family owns 3 Honda (civic, accord and my CRV). Very bad experience this time, guess I'll go with Toyota next time.
And they have engine sludge issue...
I guess, that leaves you with Buick then...
Well a week later the AC stopped blowing cold air. :surprise:
I took my car to my mechanic today and found out that the compressor (and something else) needs to be replaced and it would cost about $1400.00 :mad:
I guess I should have had the AC serviced when Honda suggested it in order to avoid this expensive hicup
Will be taking car to an ac shop where I was quoted $1400 to replace some components and flush out others (hoses, etc).
I've owned many, many cars in my lifetime and never had a compressor explode like a "grenade" which is the way Honda service rep explained it.
Will probably go Korean next time to get the 10yr, 100,000 mile warranty.
A) you would be outside of the Korean's warranty as well with 110,000 miles
10 year / 100,000 mile warranty does not cover A/C.
Good luck.
A/C is a luxury. I bet you that your Honda still starts and run every day, just as it is intended to do.
Would you rather have a functional A/C and wheels that fall off when cornering? Engines that sieze? Transmissions that lock up? Electrical ghosts? Windshield wiper motors that catch on fire?.....
You just can't grasp the fact that most of the compressors in question literally exploded and owners (especially of 5-6 yr old cars with average or below average miles) are only questioning the quality (or location) of the compressor.
I have a 15 yr old Accord with more than 100k miles that has an A/C that still works like it did on day 1. Will it one day lose performance and even stop working altogether? Of course. Will I fault Honda? Of course not, because I believe that Honda put in a quality compressor in this case based on the age and the mileage of the car. But I don't expect the compressor to explode and have a hole and scatter "shrapnel" all over the engine bay.
I just hope you don't experience the same thing with your 2005. I think 2003/2004 AC compressors have the same part number as 2005's. But then, you can afford not to have A/C up there.
That's certainly not true in Phoenix, Arizona or Blythe, California.
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maybe this really is cause for a class action lawsuit??
I don't work for Honda, but I did own a 2003 EX for several years. My A/C did not fail while I owned the car.
In 2006 and 2007, the problem cars were only 2-3 years old, so I'm not surprised that they covered more of them.
I still suspect that owners got a LOT more response than they would have received from one of the big three in such a situation.
I think that most people expect better quality from Honda - I concur that 100K is just not right for what appears to be a large scale problem (as opposed to an isolated incident with a few cars).
RE: Lawsuit. The vehicles are out of warranty, I don't see a claim here... there is no written or implied warranty on the A/C lasting longer than 3 years / 36K miles, unless you bought an extended warranty, in which case the mileage/time would be whatever was purchased.
Not necessarily - possibly a latent defect matter.
Sorry to hear about your disability. However, I think the problem here is deeper than the failed A/C. If the local weather prevents you from leaving your home, why continue living in such environment? Does whatever comfort level you get of living in FL outweigh the possibility of worsening health issues possibly exasurbated by such weather?
I have asthma, and FL, no matter how nice it is in the winter is on the list of states I just can not live. I even moved away from the coastal North East/New England to get away from the humidity, which seems to make my asthma worse. I value my own health more than comfort level of having estblished networks, and connections.
Going from one air conditioned environment to another and not being able to enjoy the outdoors is worse than a prison sentensc, since you have not done anything wrong. Maybe it is time to reconsider FL and enjoy life in the environmnet that is more forgiving to your disability. Just a thought.
Besides, most of FL is below the sea level, with the rising seas, it will be under water in the next 10-15 years... :P
I believe air conditioning has not been invented until the mid-20th centruy. I guess all of the warm climate countries were not populated until then.
Yes, most homes here don't have A/C, and you can find cars on dealer's lots that has no A/C. I installed central air in my house, because it is still too warm for my liking. It is a luxury, not a god given right. If it were, then we would not have to pay for it.
If my A/C fails, I will call Honda and take whatever they offer, because after 3 years, 36,000 miles they are not liable for anything.
No, it is Blue Eyed God, thank you. Not goddess, although if implying that I am a girl makes you feel better, knock your self out. At least all of my vehicles are manual. Man driving an automatic is the same as man wearing a dress or make up. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :P What ever floats your boat.
Not exactly. The average elevation of Florida is 98.43 feet - above sea level.
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The first failure occurred shortly after I purchased the vehicle as Certified Used in 2005 with a little over 50K miles. At time of failure, had maybe 57K miles. Just a pop and got hot. Glad to have had certified warranty. When I jokingly asked about how often this happens, the service advisor admitted this is a problem common to CR-Vs. Other models have failures they are known for, compressors happen to be what goes bad most often in CR-Vs, I was told. It almost made me want to run to get an extended warranty just to be safe, but I thought, "Hey, surely Honda would have fixed the problem by now." Silly me.
So when it quit again, the same dealership told me that while it wasn't the compressor this time, the clutch or some part of it (I forget) had gone bad. They recommended replacing the entire compressor, but the cheaper option for me was to replace the clutch. Still lots of $$$. Leaving the dealership I was again happy to have AC working, but this lasted less than 4 miles, as the clutch failed to disengage while accelerating on to the interstate, blowing the compressor. So I called the service dept to see what to do and they said to bring it right on back. They put me in a loaner car. The next day, after working with Honda to see what they could do to best help me in this situation, they told me since they had recommended full compressor replacement, they would just charge me for a new compressor, but not the labor again. So they put a defective part on my still OK compressor, which caused my compressor to blow, but this would not have happened if I had gone ahead and just purchased a new compressor from the start even though mine was still fine. Not quite sure I ever understood this logic.
Did it save me any money? No.
Should I sell the car before 150K? I think so to avoid another AC failure expense.
Would I recommend this vehicle to anyone? Not without warranty coverage to include the AC for as long as you plan to own the car. I had full expectations of exceeding 250K on this car with no major problems like this when I purchased this vehicle based on past personal and friends and family Honda ownership. So sad to have to be disappointed in Honda now because of this. This does show up as problem in ratings of used cars in Consumer Reports, as the climate system only gets an average rating instead of the much better to better than average ratings reported on all other Honda vehicles except 03 Pilot and 06 S200 in my 2009 Buying Guide issue.
Not necessarily - possibly a latent defect matter. "
I'm not a lawyer, so I would not know of such things. But it seems to me that Honda does not imply any warranty beyond 3 years / 36K miles. If the parts last that long, then Honda is clear. It may be a poor design, but then that is not any different from some Detroit models that only last 100K or so and then fall apart.
Sorry, just can't resist, this is the 2nd time I've seen this from the goddess... Now back to the compressor issues...
Not exactly. The average elevation of Florida is 98.43 feet - above sea level. "
Only because of the higher elevations in north and north central FL. I lived in the Miami area for many years, and South Florida up to alligator alley is about 6 feet or so above sea level, if I recall correctly.
Of course, which still contradicts the OP's assertion that most of the state is below sea level.
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Excellent point. But you have to wonder how many car companies would do anything at all beyond the warranty period. Honda's compressors seem to fail a bit too often, but Honda has gone to bat for a lot of people who have posted on this discussion.
btw, my wife has mild asthma out here in the high desert of Boise. Apparently a climate change helps, but only for about 5 years, after which you acclimate. So it may be most helpful to move every 5 years to keep your system on its toes.
I actually live in Amherst, 3rd populous center in NY state, I believe. At one point Amherst was the safest large town in the whole country for many years, but dropped to No.3 after some religious zealot shot an abortion doctor.
As far as I know, population of Amherst has been growing. So, I am not worried about me being the only person in town. With Geico having moved its Long Island operations to Amherst, as well as Citibank, and now Yahoo (in Lockport) I am pretty sure that in-sourcing is what is going to keep the population growing.
By the way, even though you are too affraid to fill out your profile, and think you can hide behind the annonymity of the internet, I can see that you are writing from the city on the Buffalo Bayou.
So... how's the hurricane outlook for this year?
How does it feel rasiing a 4 year old in the 46th crime ridden city in the country?
Internet is not as annonymous as you may think. We do a lot of business with the oil companies in Houston, so, we may run into each other, one day
Sorry, just can't resist, this is the 2nd time I've seen this from the goddess... Now back to the compressor issues...
Actually, I really wanted the HR-V, but Honda never brought it here. A Civic with AWD would have been fine with me. I don't need a large vehicle to compensate for anything. Before moving to Buffalo I drove a number Civics and was very comfortable.
CR-V is the smallest of the vehicles in Honda line up that offers AWD. Had SHAWD beed avaialable on the TSX, I would have gladly bought that.
I have no inferiority complex, nor have the need to compensate for anything. I just see things as they are, without being politically correct.
Automatic were invented to attract the female buyers, and any male, short of a cripple, driving an automatic is essentially equal to wearing a dress. But, we don't judge in this country, everyone is entitled to do whatever makes them happy.
I also ride, and with the advent of automatic motorcycles, no man with a automatic bike will be allowed no where near a motorcycle rally, or any motorcycle oriented gathering. Only women are allowed in clubs with automatic bikes. But, most choose not to.
Actually, it's Apollo.
Not exactly. The average elevation of Florida is 98.43 feet - above sea level.
Not according to the GPS in the car, and it is pretty accurate when it comes to elevations.
Driving the length of I-95 only bridges and some patches were above the sea level, everything else was either at or below sea level.
If it is out of warranty, I would call Honda corporate and see what they can do. If nothing, I would suck it up and replace it my self.
It is all about being a man, and men when faced with challenges don't run crying to their mommy (lawyer in this case), but do what men do.
Fix it and get on with their lives.
Fix it and get on with their lives.
I believe that's what the owners are doing whether they've been helped partially, 100%, or not at all. You're not the only man (or woman) here...
According to WolframAlpha: http://www17.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=florida+average+elevation
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You hit the nail on the head! I think you always need to keep your statement in mind, because your bias shows your narrow-mindedness. :sick: