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Most of my life I have driven either a Corolla (80%), Camry (10%), or Echo (8%), so Hondas are new.
Anyways, is it just me... or is it the car... its a bit hard to explain the matters, but I will try my best
1) the winshield wiper on the lowest speed (automatic) makes a noise... like its being turned on and off. Best example is if you take an electronic component and give it juice, and take it off. That click noise. this does not happen on the 2nd speed. Sorry, I'm a MechE so thats the best explanation I can give.
2) it seems as if the car goes into a higher gear when not needed. i haven't "tested" this... just going by when my mind thinks the car should go into the next gear
3) on a cool day (40 degrees, not any colder) - the car seems as if it wants some time to warm up... like, it will be really sensitive when I hit the accelerator... kind of respond slow.
4) ONCE, on a NORMAL day (50 degrees) the car had a tad bit issue starting up. it could have been me, cause the first time i tried i didnt "go all the way", so i stopped and tried again - and it took about 2x longer than usual. to feel secure, i turned it off, and tried 3rd time, and no problem.
like i said, im used to the Toyotas... so I dont know if its just me. Im going to drive it around a bit this week, and if i notice anything Im thinking of just taking it to the dealership. :confuse:
Yes the problem is really annoying. After meeting with the Honda dealership and getting no progress, I'm meeting with a Honda representative from Honda Corp. tomorrow to show him the problem. Hopefully something good comes out of it. It's just frustrating that the Honda dealership failed to acknowledge the issue. I will let you know what the outcome is tomorrow.
Till then enjoy the "ride" in the morning
I finally met with a Honda representative. We went on a test drive in my car but of course it barely shows up, how typical.
But it was there, just mild symptoms. We also test drove a '07 model car and it seems to drive smooth so it may be just a '06 model issue. The Honda rep however did call another Honda employee who has the same make and model as us (Si '06) and confirm that the car had the same issue. So the rep will do further research. Not home yet but at least a little progress. I'll give an update whenever that is available. Peace.
I do always have my GPS plugged in (turned off when the car is off)... does that matter?
Any thoughts?
We raised some stink with the dealership (Victory Honda, Plymouth, MI) because they said that the car was out of warranty (which is true), and that there was indeed a wheel bearing recall, but that our car was not affected by it. We explained that (a) We would assume that warranty on the replaced bearings would be longer than the standard warranty because they were changed twice and (b) it could be that Honda probably hasn't published our VIN yet or that they are not aware of it.
In any case, the dealership worked it out directly with Honda and they replaced the wheel bearing again for no cost. Total of 4 rear wheel bearing replacements within in an year and half. We were, and have been, happy with the dealership. To answer an earlier post, the parts were ready (probably because they have enough cases of this issue being reported to them) and they installed it on the same business day.
Other than that, the car is great. The powertrain is smooth, we get really good gas mileage (32 city, 41 highway). Space (rear and trunk) is good. We love it so far, except for the wheel bearing issues.
Funny, I traded my 06 civic and never looked back.
My wife has a 05 corolla LE and it has been the definition of what a car should be. Not one problem since day one, 20K later, nothing but reliable service, smooth ride, super gas mileage etc.
Of course it's not my style but her corolla ran circles around my 06 civic other than in the looks department.
My only grip with her corolla was the OEM tires suck and always have on the corllas for many years but they will be replaced shortly.
Having owned 4 Toyotas previously, Camry's & Corolla's, can honestly say this is the best I've ever owned. Since I added Honda rims, have gotten almost a dozen compliments on how good the car looks, one even from a Mercedes driver.
16 months and still one happy pwner!
The Sandman
I brought the car to my local dealer,not the dealer i bought from. They thought the car may have been painted and to take the car back to dealer i bought from. Long story short, my car was in a rear accident, i had the bumper replaced. but because my car show up in car fax being in a accident, the service basically accused me of lying. I contacted honda usa to get the process going. i met with a factory rep recently and they agreed to pain the hood and fenders, but not the bumper or any blending. i owe 9000 on the car, and i don't really feel it's fair to have brand new car with a bad paint job because honda has quality control issues. anybody with the same problems should bring a class action lawsuit against honda.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Even though you problems were much worse than mine, my car had many things wrong that were replaced under warranty but at 16K, I had enough and was worried about the future problems after the warranty ran out.
I simply traded even though I loved the car despite it's problems. I did not feel confident with keeping it long term.
If a car becomes a big headache, I feel it should be traded as life has so many other things to worry about, why should a car be one of them.
I hope you get everything resolved.
I traded back to Subaru (had a 05 that was hit pretty bad) and their cars for the most part are super rock solid and super safe. I took a big hit on my 06 CIVIC LX sedan since I owed much more than it was worth but it was worth getting rid of the daily annoyances that I was experiencing.
At 16K the car (no damage or accidents, not even a single ding) lost a ton of money over the 2 years I owned it.
The place I traded (I know them well and they are honest) advised me people are trading their 06 civic like crazy because they are not happy with them. He said he did not want anymore after mine since selling them on the lot or at auction is a pain since they are so many.
I also purchased a 2006 Civic and I also had several problems. If you have 3 returns to the dealer in Alabama for the same problem they are required to buy the car back for the original purchase price under the LEMON LAW.
I simply arbitrated it through the Better Business Bureau and had a 1 hour hearing. I took the car back and was paid back for all the payments with interest and they took the car and also paid aff the lawn.
Sorry, but there is a procedure that you have to do but the BBB will have to help you with that. It is a free service also. Costed me nothing to do.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Lemon Law Resource:
http://www.lemonlawamerica.com/
E.g. for the state of Rhode Island:
"The Rhode Island Lemon Law applies to new cars, vans, motorcycles or trucks (under 10,000 lbs) sold, leased or registered in Rhode Island, that suffer a nonconformity; a defect or condition that cannot be repaired after four attempts by an authorized manufacturer's dealership. This defect must substantially impair the vehicle's use, value or safety, and must first occur within the first 12 months or 15,000 miles, whichever comes first. The RI Lemon Law also applies to vehicles that are in the shop for repair thirty (30) or more calendar days during the first year."
Take it easy.
Bridgestone Pole Position RE960 tires are very well rated. Many people from my subaru board by these tires and I have heard nothing but good things about them.
RM
The Sandman
(btw, I've got an '07 Civic Si, if it matters...)
The remaining front RS-A's still have decent tread left, he estimated about 10k more miles which will take me a year. But knowing me, once the ride gets squirrely up front, I'll just swap out the remaining two and have a matched set.
Was I right about having the same tread on the same axle?
The Sandman :confuse:
I had that happen to me in the past with a low mileage tire (however I expect ultimate tire life to be more like 40K+ miles).....so I just bought a single matching tire.
The Sandman
http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr111507.html
I have an automatic 2006 Honda Civic EX which I just purchased this year. I am now experiencing problems with shifting it out of Park. The problem occurs when it is Cold. It some times requires me to play around with it for 5-10 minutes before it will shift into gear. When the car is hot, the problem is not as bad, but it still acts up.
I was thinking it is the shift lock mechanism but I am not sure. Has anyone had any similar problems and if so, how were they resolved (besides going to the dealer). Are there any quick fixes or places I should be looking in order to solve the problem.
Thanks,
JAY
Mine was under warranty, and the dealer fixed it. I am not sure if it is a quick "do it yourself" fix.
Nancy
I dropped by Honda on Monday afternoon and explained the problem to them. They took the car into the shop without an appointment and made an adjustment to the shift lock switch located under the driverside dash. Apparently, when the brake is depressed it comes into contact with the switch, which then unlocks the gear shift. In my case the switch came out of adjustment resulting in a locked gear shifter. Problem solved...
Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry.
JAY
Does anyone out there have any educated opinions on this? Am I wasting time and money by not waiting until the moniter gets to 0%? Thanks
As for changing synthetic oil every four to five thousand miles, that's a complete waste of time, oil and money, your cars would have seen the far side of a quarter of a million miles with oil changes at two or even three times that mileage. FWIW, I pulled the heads off of one of our cars last summer, a car with nearly 145,000 miles on it and had only had its Mobil 1 changed every ten to twelve thousand miles since it was new. So? Well, believe it or not, the cylinder walls still had the factory honing marks easily visible to the naked eye on all six cylinders. Given that I've torn down many-many engines and never seen an engine lubricated with conventional oil go even 75,000 miles with such a small amount of wear, I was really impressed.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1418/751628521_5567e459ae_o.jpg
As for waiting until the OLM shows a lower percentage, per Honda’s recommendations, many dealers won't even do an oil change unless the monitor shows less than 15%. That and the fact that Honda strongly recommends leaving the factory fill of oil (with a break-in additive) in for the full duration (i.e. waiting until the monitor says to change it). Personally, if I do end up with a Civic, I won't even bother with the first oil change until the monitor is under 10%, and even then I'll wait until it is convenient.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Thanks again for the time and effort of your response. Neal
About the OLM, however, is there a way for us to reset it on our own if we don't get the oil changed at the dealer? While they do a fine job, I'd just as soon skip their fees and do it myself with the oil I want (they wouldn't put anything in except for their Honda-branded oil... I tried). I know that they also have those crushing O-rings you're supposed to use, where can you get those?
In the 6800 miles that I've owned my car, I've never had to add any more oil to it, and the level has stayed where it should just fine.