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  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I have no doubts whatsover that you would love the 128i or the 135i. As you know, I decided to keep my 135i, and I started driving it again. I am sooooooo happy I am keeping it. It's so much damned fun to drive. Honestly... I truly believe you would never regret getting one. :shades:



  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I am so excited about actually having a 6 CD changer on my dash. Finally I arrived in the 1990s.

    LOL... Well then... I guess it's about time to thow away your 8-track and cassette tapes. :surprise:

    Welcome to the last century. ;)

    Actually, though, your upcoming Prius, if you get one, will catapult you into the most modern times.

  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    Speaking of rough plays, MU players were particularly rough on Messi, and compared to Messi (or almost all Barca players for that matter) MU players are gigantic.

    Yeah, Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are short but resilient. I marvel when I see any of them to be physically overwhelmed by the rivals, yet still being able to get the ball controlled at such an incredible speed that the rivals end literally chasing their shadows.

    The referee was not altogether bad, IMO. But I agree in that Ronaldo early deserved the yellow card and then the red one. But the game was also politics, I mean, Ronaldo is FIFA 2008 Best Player and it is not good for a final match to have one of the heroes out of the field. German players have always taken advantage of this by pushing the agressiveness to the limit.

    On the other hand, I am curious on the resemblance of Indonesian and Spanish Grammar rules. Nice to know that. Could you explain a bit more on that?

  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,257
    The Lexus auto park is one I would label a bloated excess and worthless which is why I passed it up.


    I agree about the auto park feature. I have it in my car, but I am almost ashamed to admit I have never used it. It just seems like it is too much of a bother.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    So that's your 135i? Very nice! :)

    Before the year is out I will drive a 1 Series coupe. Like I said, I had issues with the car's appearance from the photos, but had no problem with it in person.

    I have yet to see any 1 Series vehicle on the road in the Tampa area. Doesn't mean much, as there are more pickup trucks down here than any other kind of vehicle.

    It would have been a shame to sell the 135i. It's still practically new!

    Simply put, the 328i is not a lot of fun to drive. It seems to be intended as someone's first BMW-nothing too aggressive and serious: "Hey, look at me, I'm driving a BMW!" Uhhh.....not really! :shades:
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    The rumor below is just a rumor. But as we all know many rumours in these troubled times becomes reality real fast. Both BMW and MB will go through major stresses as the luxury markets continues being battered.

    This is where having a mass-market brand below you is a huge advantage. Buyers that can afford to stay with a luxury brand at all are going to be going downwards in the line towards the entry level products, where brands like Audi and Lexus can rely on VW and Toyota for their platforms and engines.

    The only downside is the resulting "x is just a gussied up y" posts in car forums :)
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    If the new 7's interior is anything like the X5's, it will be handsome, masculine and inviting, like the interior of a fine, expensive steakhouse.

    It's excellent. Easily the best interior BMW has ever done. While I think the exterior styling of the new 7 is dull and a bit of a step back, the interior is a massive improvement over the old car's which IMO was the worst in the full-lux class. I haven't liked any of Bangle's interiors, and I'm glad to see them go. Even the new Z4 has a superb interior.

  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    Edition to a former post of myself:

    Of Series 1 I like most the hatched version, and (TM's) 135i Convert. :D

  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Buyers that can afford to stay with a luxury brand at all are going to be going downwards in the line towards the entry level products

    In my opinion the entry level luxury market is more dependent on prosperity than the upper end luxury market.

    During boom times lower end luxury products grows best. But during bust times upper end Luxury product sales do best versus lower end luxury products. A wealthy man who loses 50 percent of his 25 million dollar portfolio will still be able to afford a MB S Class. While a upper middle class individual who has lost half his net worth and is facing employment and pension insecurities will choose a Toyota Camry over a Lexus ES any day.

    The Baby Benz 190 from the 1980s was a product of prosperity during the 80s. There would never have been a MB C Class today if there was no great prosperity during these past few decades. While the MB S and SL class would still be around even if no prosperity existed.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Wow! I would almost rather sit in a back seat!

    With nav. in the back, my wife can give new meaning to the term "back seat driver."

    I am eagerly waiting to see the first fruits of Adrian Von Hooydonk's BMW design labors.

    Thanks for the photos. :)
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    I would venture the sheer increase in tech that the hybrids represent are the future "gotta have one" trend as the economic trends reverse and guess what sling shots back over $4.00/gallon.

    Assuming gas prices do shoot up the economics of a 3rd generation Prius still does not make sense while the Honda Insight does make sense.

    That is why Toyota has decided to continue selling 2nd generation Priuses at much lower Honda Insight prices.

    And for those green enviro folks will the emissions of a 2nd generation Prius really be so devastating when compared to a 3rd generation Prius? NOPE!

    The 3rd generation Prius is more of a geekmobile for people who want the latest technologies in a non-luxury package. By June 2009 with my Prius delivery I will officially become a designated geek. ;)
  • I consider all of the twin turbo BMW vehicles impractical for USA driving (speeding tickets,etc;), not very good on fuel economy and quite trouble-prone, I would only consider the 128i.

    Are these similar to Dewey's 335 problems, or some thing has to do with the tt engine?
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Recently there was an uproar on the greed of all those oil companies raising prices.

    Now with low prices nobody here is calling oil companies altruists or Corporate Mother Theresas.

    The Truth :Market prices of all commodities go up and down like a YoYo independent of the greed of oil companies.

    Now bankers are the new villians and the heroes are all those folks that were duped into lying about their financial histories and duped into living lifestyles that were far beyond their means. Unfortunately the frugal folks who saved and saved and saved and lived below their means will have to fund those poor innocent duped folks out of their troubles. It just amazes me that so many frugal ones were not even duped by those very very persuasvie greedy bankers.

    Go figure?
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    My twin turbo engine is a gem as confirmed by the many awards it received worldwide as among the best of the best engines.

    Unfortunately almost everything else in my 335i isn't gem-like.

    The reason I am not interested in another performance car is that there are no perforance cars that are equivalent to my 335i in terms of price.

    A Audi S4 or S5 may be superior but at what price $$$.
  • I never said hate BMW. It just that when BMW = Big Money Wasted is written, with no one here jumped to its defence is some that would have never happen a year ago in LL.
    IMHO, every car company makes very good cars these days. So, it is very easy for people to ditch one and found some thing different that fits his needs better.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    A lot of folks have had fuel pump issues, There have been an unusually large number of complaints from folks who have the 135i and 335i, but strangely not the 535i.

    I'm not sure what kinds of problems Dewey was having with his 335i. I know part of his frustration was not being allowed to drive the vehicle with the exhilaration it deserves. I felt the same when I had the 545i. :(
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    "No one here jumped to its defense" (BMW)

    Sorry. I was away on "sabbatical leave". ;)
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    It has been a long wait but:

    1. the 1 Series line for 2009 is now eligible for the BMWCCA rebate. Given its price range, this will be $500.

    2. the 2009 X6 will be eligible for a $1000 rebate from BMWCCA although who would want this strange, purposeless beast is beyond me.

    To become eligible for a BMWCCA rebate, one must be a member of BMWCCA continuously for at least 12 months at time of purchase or lease.

    After I bought my 328i, I filed and received my $500 check within 3 weeks. :)

    Dues are $40 a year, $15 of which goes to a subscription to "Roundel", one of the world's truly great car magazines.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,661
    Agree. And when oil was booming to incredibly high prices that made no sense whatsoever it was big oil companies that were blamed when in fact it was Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs that bought every oil future they could and then had their oil analysts talk up $200 prices and use China as an excuse. It all died when the Saudi's offered the big oil companies ecxclusively 2mln barrels a day at 20% under market price and they had no interest. Goldman and Morgan started dumping immediately and suddenly oil was down 40% in no time, on its way from $147 to $34. If not for the ensuing economic crisis, both Morgan and Goldman would have been investigated for price fraud.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,257
    If not for the ensuing economic crisis, both Morgan and Goldman would have been investigated for price fraud.

    You are SO right! Those SOB's should all be behind bars right now.
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