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"That is, hands-down, one of the best songs ever recorded."
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"Ladies are requested not to have children in the bar".
Sign outside an English pub, (my local) : (OPA is our abbreviation for Old Age Pensioner)
"OAP special - buy one get one free".
We all knew it referred to meals purchased by OAPs but..................
Perhaps our beloved host was referring to "one of the best" in that sentence. Hands down means there is no competition. One of the best means there might be plenty of competition. Hence the "superlative fail" reference.
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I don't agree with there only being able to be one best, though. Best merely refers to the top tier: Good, better, best. If there is a group of something all at the same level, above all other levels, then that group is the best. One of that group is, therefore, one of the best.
If you say the "Best 5 Cities" in America, then what? Do we need a "bestest"?
Spelling counts.
A place can be THE best city, or be one of the best cities, but can't be hands-down, one of the best cities.
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If you wrote a check to the bank to pay off a loan and it was less than the amount owed due to incorrect calculation, would anyone expect the bank to accept it because "you knew what I meant, it was close enough"? Not likely.
It's not the mistakes I mind - not everyone is good at everything. It's the excusing of the mistake as if the burden should be on the reader to decipher the intended meaning that bothers me. Nothing wrong with a simple, "oops."
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There are a lot of folks who shrug off basic mathematical mistakes by saying "I was never good at math." In some cases, it is almost a badge of honor and perfectly acceptable.
"hands-down" usually refers to the winner - THE superlative. It is either one of the best, or "hands-down" THE best. Might as well say it stands alone as one of the best songs, or is the most unique song (implying that there are others that are unique, but less so).
A place can be THE best city, or be one of the best cities, but can't be hands-down, one of the best cities.
One of my kids has the same mindset as your niece. It drives me nuts. When she'd ask for money as a teen, I often considered giving her a $1 bill rather than a $20 hoping she'd "git wat i ment."
BTW, my math skills are appalling. Just... really bad. However, I use tools and resources available to me to ensure that no one else has to pay the price for my shortcoming.
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(Hm, I have a feeling I might be hearing from Tidester any minute now about that).
Kirstie, we need to have the implant done. All we need are a couple of wires hanging down that we can hook a 9v battery to when it's time to balance the checkbook (link).
And no, math doesn't seem to change, though the ways of DOING math seem to change (too often for me to keep up with).
Implants might mess up the few other skills I currently have! I'll just continue to be thankful for Excel, calculators, and online banking.
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English isn't dead, but the use of it sure seems to be on life support!
(Pardon me, I meant "oh thou of little faith". Thee is so archaic).
Thou is nominative, thee is accusative, and so I guess ye is accusative plural ??
This is a fine fare thee well.
The bright side is that some kids are able to walk both paths. My daughter, who is a high school senior, will use texting shorthand but she gets on her friends if they aren't using good grammar when they speak or write papers.
It might be a little like swearing. There are some words one uses around friends but never around parents.
I know how important good communication is now but I wonder what it will be like when these kids are in their 30s, 40s or beyond. I'm also curious if tattoos will ever be accepted in the corporate world when the younger crowd moves into leadership positions.
Unfortunately that's not always the case.
I have access to the inner workings of a large power company, where the supposedly lesser educated older blue collar workers take great delight in printing out and correcting the memos and commandments issued by the generally younger middle and upper managenent.
Notice boards in the break rooms (which are never visited by the aforesaid middle and upper management), display amazing examples of ignorance in sentence construction, spelling, grammer, and a general lack of knowledge in regard to the correct meaning of words.
"I advice you to take note..." often appears, along with "It was bought to my attention..." and "With affect from the 12th...." or "I complement you on achieving..."
While there may be isolated pockets of industry determined to uphold standards, it's hard to imagine they're in the majority when one sees a similar lack of basic communication skill in newspapers, advertisments (even by large corporations), and of late in both fiction and non-fiction books.
These days I seem to be constantly saying to myself "How many people must have approved this before it went to print?"
I wish you were right Kirstie, but I fear we've passed the tipping point.
Usually those get graded in red ink anonymously in some places. I recommend using your left hand in order to hide any handwriting or printing characteristics of the grader.
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Unless of course you are in politics. :P
I think *some* tattoos are already accepted, but I'm thinking that if you get a spider web tattoo on your neck, that's not likely to be accepted in a professional, high-level customer interface position in our lifetimes. Even face piercings are more acceptable than they were, but turning your face into a tackle box is still likely to limit one's career potential, IMO.
xwesx, it's not working out that well for her. She's starting to learn to have others look over her resume and letters, and has decided that spell-check is her friend. She's just now starting to learn that the jobs you get when you've decided that you shouldn't have to conform to others' standards aren't that hot.
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Which Language Rules to Flout. Or Flaunt?
Geez....
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"Geez" is an Ethiopian liturgical language :P
Pretty sure you meant to say "meant". :P
Speaking of which..I'm guilty of geez myself sometimes, Im pretty sure..
Dang those technicalities..(no disrespect to the Ethiopian language of course)
I just have to love an article about grammar and persnickety pronunciation in which a word like "Frenchier" makes it debut.
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Unlike quite a few others.
Does it mean Mr. and Mrs. ? I was filling out a form and did not want them to know the gender, and was surprised to see Mr.ÐMrs. as one of the options. I would feel a bit better about choosing Mr.+Mrs. had that been an option. Or maybe it means 'or'? Wanted to make sure it didn't mean Mr./sex change- to/Mrs. or some other such bizarreness..lol. (not that there's anything-Seinfeld- wrong with that) lol. This world we have now ya just never know what the new fang-dangled titles mean. I was feeling outta the possible new PC loop, haha
But also, this is a pet peeve of mine, when filling out a form, making one of those a MUST FILL box. It is not any of their business when I am enquiring about a car brand, if I am male or female.
I tried Googling my question and it was not as easy as one would think to find the answer. Many skirted around it but didn't really 'say' it meant 'and' or 'or'.
I looked it up (didn't have a clue) and found it's an Old English character that doesn't seem to have any meaning all by itself.
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Lots of good posts in the early days and, unlike so many other boards that are deader than Elvis, many of the people who posted at the beginning are still active. Pat (RIP) is an exception, but there are several familiar names.
My guess is that the number of casual visitors to this board and many (most?) others is way down. That, or the architecture of the site hides little treasures like this one. Either way, it's disappointing that boards like this that amused me (and others, perhaps) are becoming more and more rare.
I had suggested long ago that Edmunds put random links to the obscure gems in their system like this one on the entry page, must as the Most Popular in Forums shows the most active discussions in terms of posts.
Maybe that's an upgrade that can be added in the future. It's some of the little oddities like this and things like Stories from the Sales Frontlines that make Edmunds really great for me. It's a big step above many of the forums that I frequent for my own specific car brand interests.
And don't forget the many good, good people who are here.
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There's a separate "Best of" page there, where forums content is featured based on member "reactions" to posts. This means that if you see something interesting, funny, great, etc., you can give it a "like" or an "awesome." Content with the most positive reactions gets automatically featured on the Best of page.
Hosts can also promote content there with a one-click move, so once we get there, if you see something interesting, or that hasn't been featured in awhile, we can certainly get it to appear there.
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you can give it a "like" or an "awesome."
Content with the most positive reactions gets automatically featured on the Best of page.
That all sounds good. It will be worth the "teething pains" that will likely come with the turnover when the new platform gets here.
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