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I am hoping it is on the sheets?
This info would be greatly appreciated!
Can anyone tell my their top 3 choices in Full size SUV's? I need to be preoared if dealers are going to try and milk the limited initial release in December... As someone mentioned previously, you could get a Mercedez GL450, but honestly, it is much too small... I test drove a couple of those and it was very narrow and not a full size SUV. My interest in an SUV is to have as much cubic space as possible. My interest in the 2008 Sequoia is becuase of the supposedly larger cubic volume... What is the size of the Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, etc?? what about the New Cadillac SUV? I would like options if the dealers are going to try and stick it to me... We all know that the price of these will drop fairly fast and I'm just not going to get raped because I need one before Dec 31st... I'll get something else if it is the case... options?
I have been a Toyota man as long as I have owned cars, 1988 toyota 4 Runner, 1999 Toyota 4 Runner, 2005 Toyota 4 Runner, and I currently own a 2002 Avalon I swear by for business travel (1200 miles a week). 136k miles total and going strong.
I have a family of 4 now (1 year old) and we desperately had to get bigger than the 4 Runner. We just could NOT wait anymore, and after what I posted above I couldn't go that deep on a new Sequoia.
We recently bought a 2007 Suburban LTZ for $39,800 and we love it. I was never big on Chevy's integrity in the cars/trucks. However, if you have not driven their new 2007 SUV line I highly recommend it. Very impressive.
They have unreal features and you cannot beat the 100,000 mile power train warranty. Go look at the Suburban LTZ right now if you can still find an '07. I think you will be amazed, we were. So for roughly $15k less I am going to replace my Avalon next year with a used Lexus ES350.
Plus we get the exact SAME gas mileage in the Suburban as we were in our 2005 4 Runner.
Now I am sure the 2008/09 Sequoia will be incredible and possibly better than the Suburban. However, I just can't see them being worth all the extra $$$$ better.
I love my '04 Sequoia but don't want or need a bigger vehicle -- if Toyota really wanted to compete with the GMC/Chevrolet SUV line, they should have offered two size versions of the new Sequoia just like Tahoe/Suburban or Yukon/YukonXL, Escalade/Escalade ESV.
Even better would be for Toyota to come up with a crossover that competes with the GMC Acadia -- more legroom and cargo room than the Yukon/Tahoe but better gas mileage. The Highlander doesn't come close to competing with the Acadia in terms of interior space.
I'm really going to miss my Sequoia but time to move on to a more earth friendly, garage-friendly vehicle that doesn't do battle with the side of my garage a few times a year!
Several questions for you if I may.
1. I thought that the 5.7 was standard in the limited and platimum?
2. The captain chairs in the limited, do they fold flat, or can they be removed?
Thanks again, it sounds real nice!
We are definitely not fans of the captain's chairs, and need a bench for the kids. I generally like to get my vehicles pretty well loaded, but it sounds as though the Platinum would not be an option for us.
He's showing me in real time... looks nice. there is a black limited and white limited at the show.
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[quote] Bench second row is not available on Platinum [/quote]
that would be disturnbing if true. The width is nice to lie down!! I defintely want the Platinum, but want a very nice bench row so people can lie down... I also like to remove third row seats personally...
Do you know if the Sequoia will have Blue Tooth and available back up camera? Also, does your information show the choices of carpet color? Hopefully they will have at least one that is dark, we don't want an SUV with light carpet that shows everything.
How do captains chairs fold flat in second row? If you have the Platinum, you get stuck with non removeable chairs? I wonder how easy it will be to turn a Limited into a Platinum, but I assume the AVS suspension would not be an option... I just hope there is an option for a second row bench for the Platinum. The 20 inch wheels are a must for any of the models in our opinion. In fact, all of the vehicles should have had 20 inch wheels, the Platinum should have come with 21-22" wheels or have that option. In any case, 18 inch wheels just do not cut it for this vehicle.
It's nice that they have armrests, but benches generally have fold down armrests in the middle anyway now.
c) $4 a gallon gas... yes, that is the reality that many of our decisions has brought to us. You will also put $4 gas in a 24 mpg mini van. If you are in the group that is having a home foreclosed on, than by all means don't buy an expensive SUV. For many of us looking at this car, gas prices add less than $1000 a year to the operating costs to the car. That's less than $100 a month. If you are purchasing a $60k vehicle, than this shouldn't be a big problem. Many of us need a large vehicle, and are unwilling to neuter ourselves with a mini van. Sorry to rant, but I've seen this going on with various sites, and it appears to be a bunch of childless Al Gore followers trying to "make a difference" by dissuading people from purchasing new SUVs.
Personally, I am going to two car mode, one small and one big. To me, and SUV cannot be big enough since it serves many purposes: trips, pickup truck/moving, etc... I'm finally going to have an SUV that won't be a daily driver... all the more reason I want one with as much cubic volume as possible: the more people, luggage, equipment and 'stuff' I can fit, the better. I wish the new Sequioa was even a little bigger.
I want to impress upon people that have not yet seen the new Sequoia just how similar the look is to the prior Sequoia. It really is very similar. the drive is much better according to my friend who took out a limited with 20 inch wheels yesterday for a test drive. He is going to ask today at the press conference and the Toyota reps at the car show about the Platinum and the ability to have a bench in the second row. This would be a huge mistake not to offer a bench in the second row and I sincerely hope the one person here who claimed that the platinum cannot have a bench in the second row is wrong. I'd still appreciate input from people who are considering buying other full size 2008 SUV's... I'm still curious about the extended, larger version of the 2008 Escalade, the 2008 Infinity (modded Armada), and any others I may have missed... What ever happened to the Lamborgini with optional machine gun turret?
Luckily, most people can filter out the noise. It would be handy if we could automatically reroute political comments to Politics.
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If parking a new Toyota SUV in front of your house is going to invite a home invasion...it's simply time for you to change neighborhoods
I have to say, I really searched thru the full size SUV's and almost all of them, except the sequoia have some sort of bad feedback... I don;t trust the american made full size SUV's... shame but true. The GMC Denali extended seems to be the biggest, but I just don;t want to deal with 'rattling' and poor quality down the road. I'm still at a loss why American car companies on a whole, with all of our great technology, don't build better cars?? I have to admit I am a bit tempted by the Cadillac Escalade ESV with 22 inch rims and nice luxury to go with the big cubic volume... but I'm afraid it will break down, whereas the Toyotas seem to be trouble free for the most part... As long as the Toyota is priced right and has some incentives off the bat, I'll probably go with a Sequoia. If they try to keep the price up in December, I'll consider the Cadillac 2008 ESV with 22 inch rims.
Do you have pictures that you can share?
I was the same way when I bought my 2004 Sequoia (2WD, 4.7L, 4A). I had been a controller for a professional firm in Dallas and part of my job was the fleet manager for the company vehicles. I had seen the problems first hand with the Suburbans, Denali's, Avalanches, Rams and Expeditions. I had also read in consumer reports that the Sequoia had one of the highest satisfaction rates of ANY vehicle. I bought the 04 in November 03, it has 76K on it and it runs and drives just as tight as it ever did. I am so impressed with it that I bought an 07 Tundra (2WD, 5.7L, 6A) which currently has about 6K on it. Here is what may surpise some people - they both get 17.4 MPG on average, which is about what you REALLY get in a Mini Cooper S. If you are looking at a truck like this, you are proibably more concerned with safety than mileage, but the mileage isn't really that bad and the quality is all-the-way there. I will never sell either one of them, although I may add a bigger sequoia to the family in a few years.
But the wheels are nicer and the body paneling is a bit better integrated... It didn't look that much bigger on the outside, but I guess it is...
I guess we'll know for sure within the next few days...
Hopefully, someone who has been to the show will post some photos of the new Sequoia to share with us who can not attend.
If it's really that similar, I would have looked into getting an '07 but really wanted better gas mileage and a fold - f lat third row.
There is definitely a Platinum level, I saw a link to a dealer site that is taking pre-orders, and mentioned Platinum level (I can't find it now unfortunately, saw it over on ToyotaNation.com).
Looking forward to tomorrow...it will definitely get coverage...
Looking forward to Nov 22nd when I can see it at the San Fran Auto show... My friend at the Miami show does all these big shows as he is a rep for one of the large manufacturers...