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Tempting tempting tempting, damned temptations are a killer eh?
The one I would be interested in is the SEL AWD with the 207A and tow package. The goal would be to get it for $34k after TTL, financed for 60@1.9% $500 down and trade of the VC. Very tempting. I just recently, last September traded an 09 Camry Hybrid for a 2010 Fusion Sport, and although I went from 38MPG to 22 MPG, I knocked my monthly down $44, and the fun factor up 100%. I love the Fusion Sport, and if I were to go with the Flex, my stable would be 100% Ford once again, right now it is 4 Fords and a Hyundai.
What do people think about the possibility of future good incentives? My gut is that there will be good deals in the near future and I can wait at this point. I'm sure that if I start talking to the dealer the pressure to buy quick will be deafening.
Not only did I get close to what I wanted, didn't have the tow package, but I saved $114 a month over the Veracruz I traded in on it.
So far it's everything I expected: fun to drive, handles well, and plenty of storage. Haven't yet learned all that Sync can do.
I am surprised at not seeing more of them on the road here in the Northeast.
I am >< this close to purchasing an Eco Flex too. Would love to know the exact options list you had on yours and more.
Which dealer you used? and how you got the ESP included in the deal.
Could you send an email offline so we can chat further?
Thanks,
Tom
1. Could you give a breakdown of the options on your Flex and what you paid before ttl?
2. How does the Flex compare to the Veracruz? These two vehicles are currently our top 3rd row choices.
Thanks for your time,
Jim
1. Could you give a breakdown of the options on your Flex and what you paid before ttl?
I will need to wait until I get home to get the prices, but the options on this were the SEL Ecoboost with Park assist, white roof, and second row 40/40 seating. The cost was roughly $2000 under sticker after everything was said and done and before the cash backs were applied. I got $2500 in cash backs and put $799 down.
2. How does the Flex compare to the Veracruz? These two vehicles are currently our top 3rd row choices.
This is a tough question, both vehicles are VERY good, the only reason I got rid of the Veracruz was that it was not AWD, it had nothing to do with anything about the car itself, just that where I live I made a huge mistake not getting it in AWD. Had Hyundai had some really good incentives to bring the cost down on a 2010 AWD Limited, i would have gone with replacing it with the same car in AWD.
Now with that being said, a few things about the Flex that make it a real winner. The Ecoboost power is just awesome, it is there when you need it, yet gives pretty darn good FE when you don't use it. I am getting about 1 MPG better than I did with the Hyundai, 19 vs 18. I haven't taken any long highway trips yet to get a feel for true Highway MPG, the Veracruz got between 24-26 MPG. I may not be able to get near that in the Flex since it is basically a brick on wheels, where the VC was pretty aerodynamic. There is more room in the Flex, especially with the 40/40 second row, they move forward so an adult can sit comfortably back there without being cramped. With the third row seats up, there is still storage space behind them, as there is a well under and behind the seats, and it is a little deeper than the VC. The ride between them I would say is fairly equal, the Flex being somewhat quieter, the VC has an annoying suspension noise over rough roads. The seats I feel are more comfortable in the Flex, but we have big butts, and they are bigger seats, so that is more of a personal thing. The Flex however has less front leg room, but you sit higher, so you are sitting more like in a chair than reclining in the VC, so leg comfort in the VC is better. For us that is a trade off, I was comfortable in the VC, but on a long trip the short seat bottom would get uncomfortable after a while. There is a bit more storage spage in the Flex, one of the gripes I had with the VC was the wasted space that could have been better thought out for storage, like the ashtray that never gets used, and that useless cooler under the armrest.
A few things about the VC, it has options on it that rival Lexus, heated wipers(which mine was supposed to have, but it was an early MY, so it didn't), Rain sensing wipers, Sun roof, rear park assist, power lift gate, power front buckets, both sides, heated front seats, good quality leather on the seats and doors, a very good sound system( had the rear seat DVD). Everything except the DVD was standard, there really are no other options except maybe a hitch and roof rails, which are dealer installed. The VC has plenty of power, handles real well, is a great highway cruiser, and was trouble free for the two years we owned it with one minor exception.
Between the two, we are finding the Flex fits our needs better than the VC did, we have 3 kids, 2, 4 and 15, and placement of car seats so we all sit comfortably was not easy in the VC, we had one in the second row, one in the third, and getting to the one in the rear was not easy, there wasn't enough room between the second row seat and the wheel opening in the door, the Flex though, the second row seats flip up and forward giving a lot of room, and both car seats fit back there in the third row just perfectly, so it is easy to get them in and out, and still have room in the second row for the 15 YO, and my wife when my mom goes with us, so it is a true 6 passenger car. If you don't have car seats though, the Veracruz has plenty of room and is very comfortable to ride in.
The only issue I had with the Veracruz was the AM filter on the radio went byebye, everything else worked fine, it was just very noisy on AM. Hyundai replaced the radio, but did a horrible job at it. Took 3 attempts for them to get the correct radio, and damaged the steering wheel in the process, which they replaced, but when I got the car back, it just wasn't the same. I don't know what they did to it, but it developed a flat spot on take off that it never had before, and with the poor service I got, I was reluctant to take it back in. The Veracruz is a VERY good vehicle, too bad their service stinks.
Had the VC been an AWD model, I would still be driving it, found a different dealer for service and had the flat spot fixed. It really is a nice car, in some ways nicer than the Flex, but the Flex is just such a cool car with the Ecoboost and fits our needs perfectly that I am very happy with it, now we have to flip a coin the decide what to drive, the Fusion Sport or the Flex!
Dealer invoice pre holdback on this is $35371. If you did not trade anything in, then it sounds like a very good deal. The dealer cost is ~ $33909 on the vehicle.
36K @ 3.9% = ~4K I took 0% for my Fusion Sport, got my payments down $40 over the other car, and every month I know exactly what is still owed on the car.
Consumer reviews are rating the Flex higher than the Highlander too. Best bet, go drive the Flex, go drive the Highlander, go drive the Flex again, and then decide. Really look both over, check out your daily activities and how each will handle the job. I have 3 kids, a 3, 5, and 15 YO, getting the kids into car seats in the Flex is a piece of cake, even in the third row. moving the car seats between rows also very easy, in fact, one seat I can install without even getting in the car, the rear seats flip backwards. I can put the kids in the seats, and buckle them in without getting in the car either, in the third row. Mine has the 40 40 seating in the second row, I highly recommend it, they adjust forward and backwards, so someone in the third row can have plenty of leg room. If I need to get anything, all the seats, including the front passenger fold flat, giving me a lot of cargo space. At first the looks of the car were not very pretty, but they kind of grow on you, and I am beginning to like the looks of it, but since I spend most of the time inside of it, the interior is what sold me on the car. Mine is also the Ecoboost, and it is a fast songun. I am getting 19 MPG daily driving in it, better than I did with the Veracruz, and better than what I see others are getting in the Highlander. I haven't cruised the highway yet, so I am not sure what the highway miles will be.
Also the lower leg room on the passenger side in both the Pilot and Odyssey is very limiting.
We are 6'6" and 5'8" so it is much more noticeable to us than maybe others.
Good luck in your evaluation.
You may want to look at the GM triplets (Enclave, Acadia, Traverse) as well. More cargo (117 vs 87 vs 83) room but the second row seats may not be as nice. Depends on your needs.
Cin Metallic
Charcoal interior
Bench Seat
White Roof
Headrest DVD players
Roof Rails (No Vista roof)
Park Assist
Remote Start
Floor Mats
20 inch wheels
44,300 (invoice, including FDAF assessment and fuel charge) + tax + MDV - incentives at time of delivery.
Costco pricing.
Supposed to arrive in 6-8 weeks. Can't wait.
(Had to order, Limited w/ Eco boost + roof rails apparently doesn't exist!)
Thanks,
Tom
The best advice I can give you, don't worry about resale, find a vehicle you really like, and go with that. It sucks driving one that you don't like because you may be able to sell it for more than something you probably would have liked a lot better. When I get behind the wheel of either one and give it the gogo juice, I get a smile on my face, something I never got driving the Toyotas.
I noticed no one replied to you, just the post. The Flex should be able to tow it just fine. If you get the towing package, it includes sway control which will help keep the trailer stable. My only recommendation would be a Weight Distribution hitch to help level out the car and trailer, I use one for my 7000# horse trailer even though I have an F350 Dually Crewcab. I used to pull it with a 97 explorer, it is nearly as long as what you are looking to tow, but twice the weight.
Thanks,
Ecoboost AWD, Ink Blue with White top
Options: 40/40 2nd row seats, Vista Roof, Trailer Pkg, 2nd Row Console, White Roof
Total MSRP: $46,945
Price before rebates: $42,999
With Rebates: $39,999 ($1,500 +1,000 + $500 college student)
7/100k ESP Premium warranty with $100 deduct: $1350
$75 Doc Fee
= Total $41,424 before Tax, Title, License.
Price was about $600 over cost (Invoice - Holdback). $200 of that was to transport the vehicle from another dealer.
Will consummate the deal on Monday barring any last minute surprises.
Dark Ink Blue is a sublime color; and the precise shade Fiord chose is truly unique. It's indeed almost two entirely different colors; a near-black in certain conditions, and one of the most dignified and elegant shades of what I describe as an "Executive" blue I've ever seen. It's at it's best when it appears near-black (like its namesake ink) and the blue lumanesces from beneath. It's the shade of my MKS; and we deliberately forwent a 2010 in favor of a 2009 as Ford dropped D.I.B. For MKS in 2019 in favor of Atlantis Green. The MKS in this shade is a true "CEO Special".
You will love EcoBoost. Even as Mustang GT leaps beyond 400hp, Ford's dirtiest little secret is the EcoBoost V6. It's torque curve is SO broad and SO flat and SO stuck-to-the-ceiling that but not for its higher center if gravity, an EcoBoost Flex (and MKT and MKS/Taurus, for that matter continue to offer Ford's most satisfying throttle short of Shelby.
Enjoy your Flex and welcome to the select community of owners. The total volume must have finally reached some point of critical mass recently as rather than being a "see one every week or so" rarity, I see almost at least one each day, which can only exponentially help sales as more people have the opportunity to "look 'n ask" whenever one appears in their corner of the world.
Congratulations and welcome.
And yes it is a Limited. The Nav was a maybe for me but a must for her. It is a very good Nav. And having all the other functions (climate, radio, etc.) available via the touch screen is nice as well.
And really my choices for 3 row seating in my size are pretty limited. The Flex won out over the CX-9 (passenger seat comfort and narrower width), the Honda Odyssey Marginal leg room, no passenger leg room, and uncomfortable seat after 100 miles), the Suburban/Yukon XL (best leg room, but seats that didn't hold you in place). All other minivans are much worse for legroom.
Did you get into a Traverse when you were shopping vehicles? I thought it was sufficiently roomy, but my wife and I weren't impressed with styling and felt the Flex offered much more bang for the buck.
Yes the Flex's headrests lean forward, just not as far and don't make contact. That's a good thing Ford, if you are listening.
2010 Flex SEL 2WD w/Conv Pkg, Vista Roof & White Tri Coat paint
MSRP $36,915
Invoice $34,160
Paid invoice minus $2500 rebate or $31,660 + tax (3% Va), tag & title
OTD was $32,888
Put $1500 down @ financed $31,388 @ 3.9 for 60 months. $530 per month
Picking up the car tomorrow.
They made money on the holdback and I felt like I was getting a good deal. No trade in involved.
Hope this helps anyone buying a Flex.
We sold our 07 Honda Odyssey outright and my wife can't wait to get into a car she actually thinks is good looking...:)