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It was in 2002, IIRC.
From what I saw there, at least in this classroom, there was far more emphasis on world geography, culture, etc. During this educational term, the kids were focusing on the USA, and each kid was assigned a state. Being from SC, my daughter's friend had picked SC to be her state. So, I got to do a "song and dance" about SC.
They weren't focused just on the USA, either. During other terms, the kids focused on Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa.
I have to admit, I was really impressed with the level of questions and understanding these kids had about the world. This was a public school, and every kid in her class spoke conversational English... Not perfect, but certainly conversational.
What a sheltered life those poor kids led....lead still maybe?..
Yet we have a significant German immigrant presence here..and not just recently..
Funny. Those kids knew every state in the USA by name.
Wanna bet what % of US 8th graders know the states of Germany? The countries in the EU? HOW many countries in the EU?
How many USA HS graduates know any of he above?
And, we wonder what's wrong with our educational system...
Wanna bet what % of US 8th graders know the states of Germany? The countries in the EU? HOW many countries in the EU?
How many USA HS graduates know any of he above?
You could ask college kids those questions in the USA and get mostly blank stares. I had to memorize the capitols of every state. If you did not pass the test you got bad grades. Today they don't want to give kids bad grades for fear they will be traumatized. We are NOT getting our money's worth on education in the USA. Germany spends half what we spend in CA per student year. A kid that does excel is rewarded with a good job. My nephew is in his senior year at UCSD on a math scholarship. He was just flown to TX for an interview and will be going to work upon graduation. Part of the brain drain out of CA to TX. Anyone with money that stays here is crazy.
Probably because you could buy diesel cars in TX while they were banned here. :P
"Ford Motor Co.'s chief operating officer said Monday the automaker is prepared to act quickly should there be a spike in demand for diesel-powered automobiles.
"If we see diesels start to take off here in the U.S., we can react very quickly," said Mark Fields, speaking to students and faculty at the University of Michigan's Ross School of Business. Fields attributed the flexibility to the fact Ford sells diesel-powered vehicles in other regions, particularly Europe, and Ford's global platform strategy."
Ford: 'We can react very quickly' if diesel demand rises (Detroit News)
I hope they give it a shot. I could like a diesel Explorer. I doubt they are here before I buy my last vehicle.
Now you have to give Ford, GM and Chysler for having trio handedly created the 250/2500 and above larger V8 TDI "light" truck markets, albeit niche niche markets!!??. Now they truly have been on the US markets for literally decades. The big three have had NO foreign competition in these markets !! In fact they were behind the 5% of diesels and were the majority of the diesel markets, when the US policy makers policies had the effect of chopping that to 3% passenger diesels. Is Ford really going to bring passenger car diesels to the US markets because MB and BMW are? I think this is the kind of talk that was made for Budweiser commercials, after about 10 too many beers. and multiple trips to the lady's room. :P Reality proves this kind of bravado as not credible in the real world.
It is like me saying I have been driving a Ford Focus diesel for the last 10 years and 180,000 miles. It simply would not be real world credible.
Focus combined UK MPG = 53.3 CO2 = 134 G/KM
Golf combined UK MPG = 62.8 CO2 = 119 G/KM
They don't show the Golf GTD available in the UK.
Volkswagen, bring the GTD to the U.S. exactly as it is here. Don't change a thing. Give us the adjustable suspension, the summer tires, the perfectly calibrated ESC that can be turned off. It's extremely planted, has natural steering and very little body roll. Love it.
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Illogical to you, but we know Ford believes that the 3.2D is suitable for Transit van use, as they've already announced it for the US market. The Transit is a vehicle for a heavy duty commercial user, so it is hardly a stretch that they could find it suitable for a F150, with its lower payload and non-HD intended usage.
They already use the ecoboost V6 in the Taurus, Explorer, Flex, various Lincolns, the F150 and upcoming Transit, so its not like Ford does not have a history of applying one engine across a broad spectrum of vehicles. I'm not saying they are going to do it, but it is hardly illogical to think it could be possible.
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Indeed that is what I said !!
There are a host of COSTLY changes and upgrades that has to happen, to put that TDI engine across the products discussed. So if you are saying they are going to do EXACTLY that, then the logic comes at SUBSTANTIAL upgrades in costs. To state the obvious, there was not a PEEP about (needed/required) upgrades. This lack is a HUGE clue.
Using the common parts bin and platforms make a lot of sense. Again VW has been doing it across many models and for many years.
So for example to put the 3.0 L TDI that is in the VW Touareg into a VW Passat, which has the 2.0 L TDI, would be a literal and figurative logistical/cost nightmare. No matter how cool it might be. As you know the 2.0 L TDI is on the Passat, Jetta, Golf, NB, etc to name a few, off the top of my head.
"But if market demand rises for diesel-powered vehicles, which he said come at a $3,000 to $4,000 premium compared to gasoline-powered engines, Ford is in a favorable position because of its diesel-heavy European lineup."
Regarding 'not a PEEP about upgrades'...he was giving a speech to U Michigan students, why would he even get into that? They are simply acknowledging that diesel is on the table as an option. I'm sure they'll wait to see how the Cruze, new 6, rumored 2015 Titan etc sell. If they take off, then they have the ability to react. Which is what he said.
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Edmunds lists 1 FORD 6.7 L diesel, 2013 F-450 Super Duty Crew Cab.
The MSRP ranges from 50k to 67k.
You got to like that 800# ft of torque
The new Ranger will be available in 4x2 and 4x4 with three engines:
2.5L Duratec (L5-VE) petrol engine (122 kW & 226Nm) mated with a 5-speed manual transmission
2.2L Duratorq TDCi ("PUMA" ZSD-422) diesel engine (88 kW & 285Nm; 92 kW & 330Nm or 110 kW & 375Nm) consumes as little as 7.6 L/100 km (37.2 mpg-imp or 30.9 mpg-US) with choices of 6-speed manual or automatic transmission
3.2L Duratorq TDCi ("PUMA" P5AT) diesel engine (147 kW & 470 Nm) at 8.4 L/100 km (33.6 mpg-imp or 28.0 mpg-US) with choices of 6-speed manual or automatic transmissionwiki
Last compact pickup rolls off the line this week.
by Paul A. Eisenstein on Dec.13, 2011
The auto industry is back and providing one of the few sources of new jobs in an otherwise struggling U.S. economy. Or so one might believe in most parts of the country. Just don’t try to convince the workers at Ford’s Twin Cities Assembly Plant.
The maker hasn’t set a specific time yet but sometime around Friday it is expected that the last Ford Ranger will roll down the assembly line and the 86-year-old plant, located just outside Minneapolis, will finally shut down.
small block V8 turbo diesel is absolutely positively a no brainer.
I sure don't have the same level of faith in a V8 diesel as you seem to have. I'm not even convinced that these V6's have any really long longevity potential. You can go back as many years as you want and include heavy truck, industrial generator, excavator, bulldozer etc use, ALL of those that used V diesels just don't have the longevity potential as an inline block per dollar spent over the life of the unit. While Detroit did have some V's as 2 stroke diesels that actually did sorta last, they put most owners in the poor-house just fueling them.
As for Ford's new V6 F150 TD, I don't care how much so-called presale testing they did...I don't totally trust Ford nor their claims...let's get some miles on these engines in the general public's hands before claiming them as an overall good and competent engine vs dollar spent over life of use.
Heard a 7.4 go by my drive today...gosh that thing sounded TERRIBLE! And it was not a very old Ford...my guess is the owner also is worried big-time about his choice in going with a V8 NA diesel. Now while I am slinging mud, I am quite willing to include Japanese V8's too. My neighbour had the Isuzu V8 in his big dually Chev and while it pulled well and was not too too bad on fuel, and was quite a quiet motor, at (only) 180000 km it needed over 7 grand spent on it. Seals, injectors, numerous seals BTW, and turbo and intake manifold issues. Only 112000 miles! It was a 65 or 70 THOUSAND dollar truck!
Inline blocks are best for diesel use and longevity, IMO.
I know you love your little Jetta, and to be honest, I do too although don't have the same expectation of miles/$ spent that you seem to...not without some $eriou$ dollar input (there is a very probable chance you will have to deal with probably two sets of injectors, one turbo and one fuel injection pump before you will see 400000 miles. All super expensive..the injectors being the most affordable of those items.
@ 180,000 miles it is running like the proverbial top. Again I have been running 30,000 miles OCI's. I am on the oem set of injectors, turbo and injection pump. A great expectation for a 236 premium over a 1.8T VW Jetta 2003?
ruking also, do GTI seats fit in yours?
It was about 16 years old so I just replaced the whole head unit myself.
I kinda regret selling that car.
Back on topic....wonder if the SkyActiv-D would wedge in to the ND Miata? :shades:
Some high milers don't have diesel on their radar either.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/14/ram-1500-to-get-v6-turbodiesel-engine-later-t- his-year/
That's huge...will flip the non-HD pickup market on its head.
Neither pricing nor fuel economy was announced.
"Truck owners have been asking for it, and Ram will be the first to offer a diesel powertrain in the half-ton segment," Ram CEO Fred Diaz said in a statement released by the automaker.
None of the competitors in the light-duty pickup market offer a diesel engine."
2014 Ram 1500 Gets V6 Diesel Option
(lol, Juice, you beat me by mere seconds. Your keyboard must have more torque than mine).
Like I said before, let's keep in touch..and see how the Jetta is doing even in its next 180000, let alone the other 40k on top of that. When you start getting up there, every mile starts to really show its age.
I probably should have elaborated my point, which is: in most car-like applications is that you have to love a diesel for the way it runs. Period. Yes, it can show fewer running costs initially. But tally those offsets up after you have replaced the big $ items I mentioned trying to double and triple your present mileage, and all of a sudden it's not the initially perceived ea$y ride you thought it was gonna be.
Let's hope they don't BUTCHER the poor engine with poorly designed emission devices that kill the engine , which will further cement another nail in the North American perception of diesel engine's coffin in small vehicles.
At 105k miles and 23 years my wife's Lexus has some issues. the LCD for the radio is completely dark. The radio antenna goes up, but does not go back down without assistance. So even top luxo barges have issues if you keep them long enough.
Now can Fiat/Chrysler beat the socks off of GM and Ford with a Ram 1500 diesel. I hope they do. They have been gaining market share at a good pace so far.
I remember hearing that adage for years as I grew up.
Back in the 1960-80's, there was probably some truth to it.
But, I think the durability of gasoline engines (in general) has improved dramatically in the last 25 years, with things like fuel injection and all...
Still, if I was into lots of primarily long-distance highway driving, I might very well opt for a diesel, probably of European design. Lots of experience with diesels there...
Engines seem to run forever for the most part.
I have extended "major" tune up intervals from 30,000 miles to 60,000 miles (absolutely no ill effects) and have run 20,000 OCI's since new (again absolutely no ill effects) However with like weights the 3.0 L diesels consume 30 mpg vs 15 mpg. So over 200,000 miles (projected) fuel consumption will be 6,667 gals vs 13,333 gals.
I dunno, and even if it was, what's so great about a running engine in a body with no heat and leaky windshields, that's held together with bailing wire?
Come to think of it, my mom drove an Impala in that kind of shape for several years. :shades:
(She used a coat hanger to keep the passenger door closed).
Would probably cost $40 grand, but at least they are pushing the envelope.
Mitsubishi carves out niches that are just too small.
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Even in light of this past experience, the truth is about the Jetta is I do precious little to it other than keep it clean (try at least) and routinely drive it to (@ least) 75% of redline. In that sense I really do not need to run a TDI to have an educated or NON educated opinion for that matter about them. I care because I have this one and two others.
So a 2nd TB/WP change is due @ 200,000 miles. Given the last one, and how the current one is wearing, I know it would probably not be problematic or catastrophic to go to 225k to 250k. I have yet to decide 210k,225k,250k miles.
I am liking the 30,000 miles OCI's. The engine parts are experiencing (counterintuitively to most folks) less wear than changes @ 5, 10k intervals. Engine oil consumption @ 180,000 miles is the same as when new: app 1/4 qt to 1/2 qt per 30,000 miles. My guess is the first down ward plateaus will show up here when it does (more oil consumption).
I do not have any PERSONAL experiences, but have been to a few GTG's where you see folk's cars (and vendors) that the adaptation in question has been done. The normal issues are comfort, style, color match and bracketry. Another is the functionality of side air bags. Unless you are really uncomfortable or the seats are worn prematurely, it seems a lot of cash for so little performance.
Easy - nothing.
The brand needs a total reboot.