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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,741
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    I'd take the Honda that is next to the Mustang II

    Because you had one just like it?
    Not quite.. I had a Gen II Accord (82), but I regret buying the Mustang II in 1977. That Honda would have been an infinitely better purchase.

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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,157
    I assumed initially that the oldest car in this shot would be the Oldsmobile convertible but what is the white car in the background poking out to the rear of the dark utility truck? - its behind the end of the wire fence.
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,157
    The cars in the 70's picture included a dozen or more that were not known on this side of the pond - pretty much anything except the Red Pontiac, the Hondas and the Mustang.

    All those routine sedans of the time were not seen here - or only from personal import or US Military staff on bases like Mildenhall
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,580
    magnette said:

    I assumed initially that the oldest car in this shot would be the Oldsmobile convertible but what is the white car in the background poking out to the rear of the dark utility truck? - its behind the end of the wire fence.

    not sure. has a late 50s Mopar vibe to me.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    The white car at background far right to the right of the truck to me strongly resembles a 55 Plymouth.
    stickguy said:

    magnette said:

    I assumed initially that the oldest car in this shot would be the Oldsmobile convertible but what is the white car in the background poking out to the rear of the dark utility truck? - its behind the end of the wire fence.

    not sure. has a late 50s Mopar vibe to me.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,580
    see, I was right!

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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,159
    edited April 2020


    How about 57 Plymouth Belvedere if I've got the right car in mind?








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    Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 744
    1959 Chrysler Saratoga in the black and white photo.
    As to this yellow one, a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere. It could be a 1957.5, we need to see the front. Andy, do you have a photo of the front?
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    Car to the left of the utility truck definitely looks like a 57 Plymouth.
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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,159
    edited April 2020
    Lostwrench3 said:

    1959 Chrysler Saratoga in the black and white photo.
    As to this yellow one, a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere. It could be a 1957.5, we need to see the front. Andy, do you have a photo of the front?

    The yellow 57 was an example to compare the white car behind the fence next to the white building with.
    I didn't edit correctly and left some artifacts of html in the post. The yellow car is my picture just to compare the side trim. It is not Andy's fault things got mixed up.

    But here's the front of the 57 Belvedere

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,395
    Four headlights? I thought they didn't come in til '58MY? :o

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    imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,159
    Fake quads. The inner light is a parking light.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    Another old Mopar on Swiss plates.
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    Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 744
    imidazol97 said:

    Fake quads. The inner light is a parking light.

    Ahaa! A 1957.5!
    Ok, Pop Quiz.
    What is different on the front end of this 1957.5 Plymouth Belvedere from the 1957 Plymouth Belvederes which first came off the assembly line that year?
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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,716
    edited April 2020
    I think that's a pair of driving lights, place holders for the '58 high beams.
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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,104
    edited April 2020
    Given the lack of turn signals/parking lights elsewhere in front, that is what they are, not driving lights. The difference between this example and the earlier models is in the front roll pan under the bumper. Originally the slots were wider and jarring-looking, so mid-run they were altered with a vertical bar dividing each slot as seen above. Early production reportedly also had that front pan painted silver regardless of body color but that was changed partway along.

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    Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 744
    Bingo! Very good, ab348. The slots went from wide 6 to narrrow 12.
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,157
    I couldn't see that Mopar in the corner properly - thanks for sorting out out
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    This site exists as part of a mall (the one here is very successful) to this day, but the building has been massively modified or possibly razed and something similar built:

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,580
    edited April 2020
    Nice red cougar. And yellow car obscured by the green Granada (the ultimate expression of 1975) looks like a gen 1 Scirocco.

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    tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,243
    Brown Pinto in the background.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    I think the yellow car is indeed a VW, but I suspect it is a Dasher. A yellow Dasher is also quite 1975.
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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,716
    Pretty sure it’s a Scirocco with the base steel wheels.
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,157
    The Dasher, which we got as the first Passat, was always in those bright colours - Red Yellow or Lime Green, as I recall.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    The yellow car appears to have the "buttress" on the hatch like a Dasher, which was also available with steel wheels. I'll even wager it is a 2 door Dasher, virtually extinct now:

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,395
    texases said:

    Pretty sure it’s a Scirocco with the base steel wheels.

    Sciroccos were seldom seen in the US w steel wheels as alloys were standard. I'd go w Dasher/Passat.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,104
    Is that Cougar a convertible? If so I’ll take it.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,395
    ab348 said:

    Is that Cougar a convertible? If so I’ll take it.

    Possibly but I don't think so, I think it is not a Cougar, if it were the roof back would not be at nearly vertical angle to the trunk (whether coupe or convertible.)





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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    I think the dark/black Cougar at left might be a convertible, but maybe not.

    Directly above it I see a GM clamshell wagon and a red 911/912.
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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,104
    fintail said:

    I think the dark/black Cougar at left might be a convertible, but maybe not.

    Yes, that's the one I was looking at.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    There appears to be like a matte/gloss contrast between the roof area and rear fender of that car. I am leaning towards convertible.
    ab348 said:

    fintail said:

    I think the dark/black Cougar at left might be a convertible, but maybe not.

    Yes, that's the one I was looking at.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,395
    ab348 said:

    fintail said:

    I think the dark/black Cougar at left might be a convertible, but maybe not.

    Yes, that's the one I was looking at.
    I screwed up, I thought you were looking at the red car near center pic, I'm having trouble w that one. It looks a bit like a Mustang but the roof line is wrong and no side sculpting.
    The black car on left does look like a 70s Cougar 'vert.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    My local mall before it became enclosed:

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,716
    Old ideas are new again!
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    tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,243
    I’ll grab the Lark and the 56 Chevy.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,580
    Is the front right blue convertible a comet? Next to a yelloW rambler wagon

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    I believe the yellow wagon is a ~63 Comet, a somewhat unusual car in wagon form these days, I think.
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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,946
    texases said:

    Old ideas are new again!

    I was just going to say the same thing.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,104
    The blue convertible on the lower right is a '65 Plymouth Fury I believe. I like the gold or green mid-60s AMC Rebel convertible on the opposite side.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    I notice a lack of 60 Fords in this pic.

    I was thinking the convertible to the right of the 56 Chevy is a 66 Galaxie?
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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,104
    fintail said:

    I notice a lack of 60 Fords in this pic.

    Must of been an elitist part of town back then. :) I note a '59 Olds along with (I believe) a 1960.

    There is a nice '65 Chrysler 2-door HT lurking on the right.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    I remember my dad saying early 60s Fords were bigtime rusters. I wonder if they did that here, too.

    There's a beige smaller car 2 to the right of the 2 door looking Mopar wagon parked at left - looks foreign, perhaps Dauphine or Ponton.
    ab348 said:



    Must of been an elitist part of town back then. :) I note a '59 Olds along with (I believe) a 1960.

    There is a nice '65 Chrysler 2-door HT lurking on the right.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,395
    I think the blue 'vert is a '65-ish Plymouth. The red convert coming towards camera in front of "Thompson's" is a 1964 Pontiac/Tempest/LeMans/GTO (hard to say which).

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    The parking lot of the nearby high school, 1958. Typical stuff I think - today it'd be loaded with higher end late model material, as this is an affluent entitled area:

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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,157
    Black and white wagon on the right under the first yellow awning - Is that a Rambler?
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    Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 744
    4th from left - 1950 Mercury.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,395
    I went to HS in a well-to-do Long Island town where many families had several cars (and boats) but hardly anyone drove to school except a dozen or so hot rodders who had jalopies dating from the40s and early 50s. The rest of us walked or took the bus.

    The newest car I see is the Buick closest to the camera, I think it's a 1955 Roadmaster. The oldest is a tall club coupe about halfway up the second row, probably belongs to a
    hot-rodder.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    6 cars to the right of the Mercury, next to a shoebox Ford coupe, appears to be a 55-56 Ford convertible. Several cars down the line towards far right I see the rear quarter of a ~57 Mopar wagon, no doubt "mom's car".

    I see the club coupe style car, it does appear to be the oldie. Gives me the vibe of a 37-38 Chevy. At far left upper corner, next to what looks like a 55 Chevy wagon, looks like maybe a 41 Chevy coupe.

    I went to HS in a small town, and many drove as soon as possible, in whatever was available. In a setting where few had a lot of money, it didn't matter much what one drove, simply driving to school was an exciting ideal.
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    tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,243
    56 Ford, 55/56 Ford Country Squire, bunches of 49-51 Fords.
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,185
    1958 high school might be a bit too daddy-o for most here. How about foreign car supermarket, 1972:


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