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Subaru Crew - Meet The Members II

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  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    my Business Week correctly, around that timeframe Subaru installed a new CEO (?) who made the critical, and correct, decisions. One being to go back to a niche market and another one being to go with AWD on all vehicles, including ours. :)

    Greg
  • kate5000kate5000 Posts: 1,264
    My Loyale'92 was pretty memorable.

    Actually, 1989 was a record sales year for Subaru in US, when they were as mainstream as it could get, and that record held up until 1997 or even 1998. I think several factors contributed to low sales of 1991-1993, such as diminished popularity of wagons, AWD did not become trendy yet, obsolete boxy styling of the Loyale model, etc, etc. Whatever it was, I was surely glad to buy my Loayle in 1992 with a huge discount!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The other popular Marketing Campaign was the Joe Isuzu one. I think it won some awards and helped Isuzu hold on for 10 or so extra years.

    -mike
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Do you go around making believe you were hit by "other" SUVs backing out of their garages???

    ;-)

    -Greg
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That was George Mullen, I think. Brilliant guy, it's too bad he left.

    Joe Isuzu was hilarious. The new ads are OK, but not as good as the originals.

    Side note: one of my neighbors has been wanting an X5 for months, but she drove an Axiom and almost bought it. She still might.

    -juice
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    I like that Joe Isuzu commercial where he drives up next to the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the huge boulder attached to the front. It keeps cracking me up when the thing slams back into the JGC's fender.

    Ken
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    And they just started a great lease/finance deal on the Axioms as well.

    -mike
  • kate5000kate5000 Posts: 1,264
    That commercial with JGC and the Axiom. Although I don't like styling of the Axiom. Trooper is much nicer.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Tell your neighbour not to buy an X5 until they completely fix the problem that is causing them to spontaneously combust with the engine off, and the with the vehicle parked in the garage:


    See this. He was lucky that his house didn't burn down completely:
    http://www.eliteviews.com

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, I should warn her, LOL.

    BOOM. What was that? Our X5 sponteneously combusted.

    Gee, and we thought check engine lights were bad!

    The way they're handling the recall is going to hurt them. It's the opposite of what Lexus did (scramble to fix the problem, even visiting remote owners).

    -juice
  • pattim3pattim3 Posts: 533
    What great knowledge on this board! George did a great job in turning the company around. He is a very personable and intelligent person and we miss him. Our new Executive Management group was really groomed by George so they are doing a good job of carrying the torch.

    Patti
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,589
    G'day

    Actually, I should indirectly be extremely grateful for Ford's love of vacuum wipers. They got me my first car.

    A mate of mine had a 1956 Ford Consul when I was at Uni. It was decrepit, even by the standards of most uni student's cars. Amongst other highlights, it lost a wheel coming home one night, the wheel making it down the mountain (in front of us) before we realized the problem. Its steering was interesting and the tyres as bald as... It did however have a high domed roof improving the vision when we took in the drive-in movie sitting atop it.

    It had an asthmatic four cylinder with a nasty vacuum leak which meant the wipers worked only when you took your foot off the accelerator. The technique was soon mastered; Accelerate, throw clutch in, foot off accelerator and turn on wipers. A quick examination of the scenery and then repeat the exercise ten seconds later.

    Canberra, where I did my first degree, is high in the Australian Alps and rarely rains except at night. It does however have rather a lot of smallish mountains and one of the amusements available to students was cruising these mountains, determining the number of loving couples one could shift from these vantage points by a slow drive-by. Canberra is Australia's answer to Washington and there is about as much to do after dark if you are broke and bored.

    As luck had it, Mum had a conference in town and, carless, I borrowed my mate's Consul to collect her from the airport and drop her at her hotel, across one range of mountains. From a cloudless night, a monsoon like storm appeared as I drove across the mountain range.

    The Consul, labouring uphill had no wipers so I went through the usual routine. Mum was horrified, a reaction heightened when I asked her to pass a cloth to wipe off the water streaming up my legs through the holes in the floor.

    I was unphased, as this was normal for the Consul but when we reached her hotel, she called for a stiff brandy. She was not impressed!

    When I next went home, I got a good offer; a decent car for myself if I promised never to travel in any bombs again. Who could say no?

    I've never told her that when leaving the hotel, I coasted the Consul downhill in neutral (the synchromesh was very iffy) and tried to turn left. The slow spin this created resulted in me turning, not the 90 degrees I expected but a gentle 450, ending up in exactly the direction I'd intended, but having seen the whole intersection first. I needed no persuasion to give up travelling in bombs.

    The Consul died soon after, so decrepit that the wrecker charged its owner to take it off his hands.

    My, it takes you back!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's a fun story.

    I think we're spoiled. These are the good old days. We whine when even a simple part fails to operate perfectly.

    -juice
  • FrankMcFrankMc Posts: 228
    in 1995. This was the low point after their strong sales in 1989.In 1996 they moved to "all AWD" and the outback was really pushed. It has been straight up since then.

    Frank
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
    Great story! So descriptive. I could visualize your Mum's expression.


    I recommend that you post this also in the News & Views The WORST Vehicles I've Ever Owned. :-)


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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sorry, my calendar was off by a few years. But I'm pretty sure the "What to Drive" ad campaign was during the low sales period.

    I know there are a lot of GT and RS fans here, but let's face it, the Outback saved Subaru, and still pays the bills.

    -juice
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    as the WRX will bring needed visability to the Impreza line and Subaru in general. One other point to note is at that time the look of Subarus improved quite a bit IMO and more stylish and up to date. I look at the pre 00 OBs and pre 02 imprezas running around now and have really come to like them quite a bit. How come I didn't before? Marketing? Head up my b__?

    Greg
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    Do you have the ability to address the speculation, in the following link, as to the rarity of the 1994 Turbo Legacy? Or can you put me in touch with someone who might? It seems like the numbers for that year have to be somewhere.


     http://www.prioritysail.com/subaru/


    Thanks,


    Jim

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I've personally seen at least 2 dozen of them in my subaru travels.

    -mike
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    image


    ...at 6-7pm Pacific/9-10 pm Eastern. Hope to see you there!

    http://www.edmunds.com/chat/subaruchat.html

  • pattim3pattim3 Posts: 533
    I'll see if I can get you actual numbers on Monday, but I know it was a lot more than 12. It wasn't considered limited production or anything, but I'll see what I can find.

    Patti
  • pattim3pattim3 Posts: 533
    Great Story! I've printed it for my both of my son's so that they don't even think of trying that!!!

    Thanks for brightening up our day!

    Patti
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hey patti, could you check on production #s for the XT6 also, and for that matter the SVX too? As long as you are gonna dig up the production #s. Thanks.

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    I'd be willing to bet the svx is even lower than my car if Patti says mine wasn't a limited production. There are a couple nice examples on ebay right now. I can't believe how low the miles are. Have a great weekend everybody.

    jim
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    for the XT6 are 4K units over the 3 years it was offered here. The SVX was 15K units over the 4 years it was offered.

    -mike
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640
    My first thought, when I came across that guy's website, was, "the dealer must have meant 12 THOUSAND units" so, maybe Patti will give me some closure on this issue. I'm surprised at the 4k number for the XT6. We lived, as you've seen, in the resort areas of Colorado, which has to be the highest per capita Subaru/Jeep ownership area in the country, and I did see at least a few XT6's. It was the XT6 that was N/A, and the XT4 that was Turbocharged, right? Have you seen those SVX's on ebay? That's really amazing to me. Such pristine condition and low miles.

    Jim
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    The XT looks like the XT6 but thats where the similarities end. XT came in both NA and turbo. Here's a quick rundown:

    XT:
    1.8l NA or Turbo
    Part Time 4wd or FWD
    No air suspension
    4-bolt lug pattern smaller brakes, etc.
    smaller tires, rims etc.

    XT6:
    std 5-lug pattern 14" 205-60-14
    AWD or FWD, 5MT with center locking Diffy.
    H6 2.7l engine
    Air-suspension std. on AWD models
    Electric Power Steering Pump (no belt driven PS pump)
    Different suspension components (larger sway bars, etc)
    Fog lights std on XT6, not available on the XT

    A quick look will show a lot of XTs and since the body was the same on the XTs and XT6s you'd never know the difference unless you actually saw the XT6 or the fog lights.

    -mike
  • lucien2lucien2 Posts: 2,984
    on the cover of Autoweek today. I want one more than ever. Patience, grasshoppa.....

    Looking forward to starting the new job on thursday. Juice, it is sales, but not the "close-the-deal-on-the-back-9" kinda thing. I know a lot of the restauranteurs in question already, and there is little in the way of "pressure" sales I need to do. Basically I'll be calling them, bringing samples by, taking orders, making sure my company is taking care of them, etc.

    Otherwise I wouldn't be able to do it, as I am note really the "sales" type either, as you say.

    So, does anyone have any PDA recommendations? :)
  • tincup47tincup47 Posts: 1,508
    Wholesale foodservice? What Company?
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