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Oh yeah, I tend to mumble, causing people to think I said "Dave" when I introduce myself as "Steve."
I think the WSJ nailed it :-)
Steve, Host
Me: Yes, no, no, NO. 25% correct.
I like snowboarding, domestic travel, wildlife, and cultural events. 50% correct.
What Graham said, maybe it's skewed by the readership. Interesting though.
Brian, that's very interesting, and kudos to Subaru for marketing effectively. This is incredibly biased, but I think if the Subaru "demographic" is represented on this site, Subaru drivers are very intelligent, helpful, and diverse people. I don't think you can create an "average" from so many different and above average people as I have seen post here.
utahsteve
I think we can add "hockey fan" to the list of demographics, too. If you're ever been to a chat, that's the sport most often mentioned. No doubt it's the AWD/cold weather connection.
-juice
Steve, Host
Ralph
Funny, someone over in the Sienna forum asked about the OB. She has 2 kids, a dog and likes camping. Told her if her husband's name is Dave and has a Mac, she is obligated to buy one. Hopefully she will visit this forum.
Greg
Steve
Hmm ...
no, no, no, no... also no, no, so-so, and ok ...
Does that mean I don't fit the profile?
That's you right? Enjoy the 15 minutes.
Steve, Host
B
Thanks, but I just got back from the site library with some photocopies.
Host Steve also sent me the text - thanks also.
Lorraine paraphrased my comment which became "Quirky carmaker was one of the few to embrace all-wheel drive on passenger cars".
She never asked me about income, so not sure where her data came from.
Steve
I prepare demographic analyses for businesses for the Small Business Development Center and have dealt with some of the commercial data providers out there -- most are peddling crap data based on questionable methodologies.
Anyway, it's still an interesting profile.
Brian
Don't forget the chat in progress, btw.
Steve, Host
Good article on WSJ's Me & My Car box:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2075300/
It's all in the sample population....apples in, apples out... white middle-aged married males are the most prevalent consumers of cars...
Signed - another WMMM,
Ralph
-juice
I am male, white (of Hispanic and German descent), 42 years old (in 10 days), married, 2 kids, 2 dogs, 3 cars ('00 Outback, '98 Toyota Sienna, '94 Lincoln Mark VIII), mortgage, high school teacher (writing and computer literacy), bicyclist, Boy Scout leader . . .
but I don't read the Wall Street Journal and I didn't vote for W so I do not exist.
Oops, frothing on my soapbox again. This rain has to stop so I can get out and pedal out some of this pent up angst.
--K9Leader
Name: Dave, Mike, Steve, or at least a "K" in the name
Pets: yes, usually 2, primarily dogs and cats
Profession: educators, techies
Computer: lots of Macs among us
Hobbies: hiking, biking, gardening
Type of driver: defensive, curteous in any weather
Sport: hockey or skiing, WRC (spectator)
Memberships: IMBA, Tread Lightly
Catalogs received: LL Bean, Eddie Bauer
Sounds about right.
-juice
-Dave
Steve, Host
Name: Dave, Mike, Steve, or at least a "K" in the name ME: NONE OF THE ABOVE
Pets: yes, usually 2, primarily dogs and cats YOU KNOW ONLY ONE AND JUST THIS WEEK
Profession: educators, techies GOT ME HERE.. I'M A TEACHER
Computer: lots of Macs among us NEVER OWNED ONE (BUT I'M REQUIRED TO USE THEM AT *ONE* SCHOOL WHERE I WORK)
Hobbies: hiking, biking, gardening NOT MUCH, OCCASIONALLY, AND ONLY WHEN I HAVE TO
Type of driver: defensive, curteous in any weather OK .. THIS IS ME BUT *I'M* COURTEOUS
Sport: hockey or skiing, WRC (spectator) NO, NO, AND NO ... EXERCISE IS PULLING THE PLUG AND FIGHTING THE CURRENT .. ;-)
Memberships: IMBA, Tread Lightly (IMBA?)
Catalogs received: LL Bean, Eddie Bauer NOPE ON EITHER ONE - I PREFER TO DO THAT KIND OF SHOPPING ONLINE>>
K .. so NOW what do you do with me?
I tend to bring the Outback mean down traveling too fast...
Ralph
But I bet you can tell a lot more about what's inside the car--aside from the people. I know my OB is usually full of sports equipment--racquets, golf clubs, ski gear, hats, shoes, balls--unless my wife asks me to clean out the clutter.
Does this include just first names?
tidester, host
On the other hand, I understand their desire not to just give you another car. Then they don't learn anything and there's an unsuspecting buyer of a used car that doesn't work right.
Are they providing a loaner?
so under those criteria there is NOT a "k" in any of my names ...
I dunno, Brenda, a dog-owning teacher who uses a Mac at work seems close enough to me!
Dave is right, I should have added "loves (turbo) whine, grilled turbot, and rally bread" to the list.
schiza: seems like you got a Friday 5pm build. Sorry 'bout that. Hope you get it resolved quickly.
-juice
Greg
(Hope you know I am j/k)...
Steve
yeah .. I hope you know I'm joking TOO
And let's get back to the subject of the Subaru Legacy/Outback. Thanks! ;-)
Revka
Host
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Revka
Host
Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
I was just curious!
BTW - I've read that when physicists are confronted with pesky data that doesn't follow the rules they do the only respectable thing left to them: change the laws of physics! Do you think Juice is up to devising new Subaru Legacy/Outback participant naming conventions? ;-)
tidester, host
I also put the bike rack back on the Legacy Wagon today (required Sube content). I have about 4 Thule systems, and am bummed that none of the feet or clamps I have will attach to the unusual shape of the Legacy rails. So in frustration at the $100 they want for the clamps, I attached it with 4 H.D. stainless steel hose clamps last spring. After an uneventful summer with several thousand miles, I decided to do the same this year. Best $9 rack feet I've ever had (includes a spare under the cargo floor in case anything goes awry). For security, I pass a cable lock through the frames and roof rails, but still don't leave them on the roof anywhere.
Anyhow, wanted to razz you about biking...
IdahoDoug
True Subaru country...
Cheers!
Paul
I use a hitch-mounted Saris, and was pleased to find that with the adapter to mount the 2-inch rack into the OB's 1-1/4 receiver, the rack sits out far enough that the hatch will open without having to tilt the rack. Yay!
I returned from that meeting with most of another bike. The Scoutmaster brought in a frame with most of its components that his son had abandoned in the basement. It is a Trek 850 - frame, original rigid fork, cranks, front deraileur, pedal arms, brake levers, rear brakes, and totally trashed rear derailleur. I know it is a pretty base level bike, but it might be worth putting back together, as I already have some wheels, pedals, saddles, and would probably only have to buy front brakes and a rear derailleur. Besides, he was just going to throw it all in the dumpster . . . and we can't be having that now, can we?
--K9Leader
No "K"s in my first, middle or last name.
Pets: yes, usually 2, primarily dogs and cats
None, though inherited my wife's cat and Siamese fighting fish.
Profession: educators, techies
Yeah, I guess I fit here since I've been doing a lot of training and lecturing the last couple of years. If being a former bench chemist makes me a techie, then maybe.
Computer: lots of Macs among us
Nope. PCs at work and home. Last used a Mac in 1990.
Hobbies: hiking, biking, gardening
If gardening = lawn care, yes. Kayaking and antique car restoration and maintenance here.
Type of driver: defensive, curteous in any weather
I could be better. Living where I do contributes a lot to borderline road rage situations. I've taken to listening to classical when I drive and it helps.
Sport: hockey or skiing, WRC (spectator)
When I was more active in sports as an adult, it was baseball/softball. I played football, baseball and tennis in high school. The former two killed the latter and also led to my favoring cars with automatics. I also played lacrosse briefly in college. Maybe kayaking counts? Maybe auto-x too? I do like the WRC and hope to see a live event one day.
Memberships: IMBA, Tread Lightly
Nature Conservancy, Studebaker Drivers Club, a lot of professional associations.
Catalogs received: LL Bean, Eddie Bauer
Bean yes, Bauer no (I thought they went Chapter 11?), too many others to count.
Ed
lark has a K, and those cars have a small but loyal following also.
-juice
I'll have to join you in this cycling/skiing discussion (hope to join the Sube owners club as soon as that new Legacy w/Turbo arrives). This weekend I skiied in the morning at Crystal Mountain and then did an easy ride with my wife in the afternoon around Mercer Island. It was raining at the base of Crystal but a full on blizzard at the top. Then on Sunday raced in a Criterium in Volunteer Park (on Capital Hill in Seattle). Gotta love the N.W.!
-Ian
Cheers!
Paul
The only other places it could really leak are the roof rack mounting points.
Craig