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Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable Sedans Pre-2008



  • sable93sable93 Posts: 107
    BTW, mine is a '97 GL.
  • shank6shank6 Posts: 64
    Hey everyone :
    Happy to report the the new Sable LS Premium is performing flawlessly. What a difference in the ride between this car and my 99 Taurus SE. On the other side of the coin, my best mileage with the Taurus in mostly highway is about 22 mpg. This figure drops drastically if I get on it a little. Also had to have a second fan blower motor replaced. The same audible chirp noise cropped up again. There is still vibration from the front end at 80 mph even though the tires have just been rotated and balanced.
  • I have a 2000 Taurus SES with the 3 liter four-valve per cylinder engine. I've noticed a smell coming from the ventilation system and it sure smells like gasoline. Not overpowering, but definitely there. Wondering if anyone else has a similar problem. I don't smell it on the first start of the day or after the car's been sitting for a long while, but if I drive somewhere and leave the car for 15 - 20 minutes and then get in start it, there's a definite odor. Which goes away after I drive a few blocks.

    I can't be certain but I may have first noticed it after the recall last spring having to do with reprogramming the PCM for the first time. I was hoping the latest recall to once again reprogram the PCM for better drivability (the one where we got the mag lite as a gift) might solve the problem. Didn't.

    Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
  • Thanks guys for the responses on the loaner car issue and PCM recal #0055B.

    My dealer had my new SEL for 8 days after initially saying a day or two. Had to order airbag sensor parts (airbag light always on) that delayed it two extra days, and corrected the wind leak from rear passenger side door. Here's what made me angry... I tell the service advisor the car pulls left. They adjust the toe, switch tires around. I pick up the car after going 30 miles out of my way (and waiting 8 days) and the car now pulls right!!!

    I bought at a dealer farther from my house because of price, but can I go to any dealer with warranty concerns like this alignment problem?
    Should I stick with the same dealer and give 'em hell?

    At least I did get a loaner, an underpowered Contour.

    Does seem like the PCM Recalibration may have given a crisper acceleration too. Hope mpg gets better, the car seems a bit thirstier than I thought a V6 Taurus would be.
  • Any dealer can (ie: has to) do your warranty service, but it doesn't mean they will want to help you.
  • I had noticed the odor garydag mentioned when we had our 2000 SES the first 5 months. It appeared to be more noticeable on hot days or after long drives. I haven't noticed it recently so I believe that it should go away in time. The dealership could smell it, but couldn't locate the source.

    The new PCM code has made a definite improvement on the performance and pick up. I am currently doing a MPG test over a couple of fill ups and will let you all know of the results in a week or two.
  • I recently purchased a 1999 Taurus Wagon SE. It has regular wheel covers. I would like to purchase 2000 (or prior to 1999) Taurus spoke wheels. Does anyone know what year wheels will fit the 1999 Taurus wagon?
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
  • Hello,

    I found a dealer in a small town near here that will order any new Taurus from the factory for $49 UNDER invoice, plus I would get any rebates in cash (Currently $1,000). Would not bother me to wait for the order, as the 92 Taurus I currently have is running great. It seems I could get a new loaded SES for about $2,770 under list price, plus the $400 college grad rebate.

    Question is, I would assume the 3.0 24V engine would get the same mileage as my 3.8 in the 92, or around 23-24 combined. I am also assuming this recalibration issue mentioned above is a running change on new production vehicles? Also, how is the power in the Duratec engine, and how much better is the five passenger seating over the standard bench seat?

    If mileage or performance is so poor with the Duratec, maybe I'll go for a Crown Victoria instead. Those cars run forever.

    Any feedback would be appreciated, as I really like my 92, hoping the new ones are even better.
  • sable93sable93 Posts: 107
    Well everybody, I decided to get my '97 Taurus fixed instead of getting rid of it. It will cost $2311.00 to get a remanufactured transmission put back in, but I feel that if I trade the car in to a dealership, I won't get any money for it. Hopefully this is the last problem I have with this car. I really like the car in every other way, but I'm still not too happy about this. Here is to hopefully years of trouble free driving. :o)
  • 911dan911dan Posts: 9
    OK...left the car w/the service manager on Monday. He drove it home
    Monday & Tuesday......

    He insisted on having the gas cap key & assured me there wouldn't be any
    funny business with the quantity of gasoline.

    I spoke with him Wednesday.

    He says he got 24 MPG, including having to drive in bumper-to-bumper
    traffic, but, didn't have any receipt for the gasoline to show me. I
    feel that I lost "control" when I gave him the key to the gas cap lock
    and didn't actually see the mileage and the gasoline going in myself.

    When I picked up the car Wednesday afternoon, I spead out MY gasoline
    receipts on his desk!!

    Two more calls to the FORD 800# and the district mgr will be "notified"
    when she goes to the dealership next week. They asked that I be patient
    until then.

    Is it REALLY REASONABLE that two different drivers can have a 9 MPG
    difference?!? My best mileage in that car (it has 12,400 now) was going
    from Los Angeles to San Diego on the interstate, and I only got 22!

    Anyone from FORD also care to comment?
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    With our old car, a 88 Taurus, in city traffic, my wife consistently gets almost two-fold better mileage than I. She starts slow from lights and drives very smooth, while I am accelerating.

    We did not measure the difference in mileage with the newer cars, but have impression it is also substantial. On the other hand, the mileage on highways, at least when the traffic is light, is more or less the same (about 10 percent difference).
  • raaizinraaizin Posts: 31
    I have just learned I can purchase a new Ford or LM under the X-Plan since my company is a supplier of Ford. Has anyone ever purchased a vehicle under the X-Plan If the MSRP is 22,000 what will my price be. Can I do better on my own.
  • shank6shank6 Posts: 64
    Hey Dan: Don't know if this will help but I track my mileage evry week. If i do mostly highway driving ( 3 out of five days ) I'm up around 22 per gallon. But, if Im in the city (Boston and surrounding suburbs )and do alot of stop and go it drops between 17 to 19. Gonna have the ties high speed balanced this weekend to try to get to get rid of the slight vibration. Good Luck !
  • Hi,
    Does anyone know about the new ford mondeo sold in UK this november? Will it ever come to US? Its exterior looks a lot like our cool "focus." Also, its old mondeo looks like Taurus.
    You can go to below website for the picture

  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    I have seen many photos of the new Mondeo. It is quite a nice car and I feel would be a huge Passat killer in the US. Again, however, as clueless as US auto exec's always are (and I really mean that in a huge way) they have decided not to bring it over, afraid they would harm Taurus sales. I feel it would be a nice supplement to the Taurus, as the Taurus is very US traditional and the Mondeo would be attractive to the usually import only crowd. This car would steal many passat sales if available here.

    The interior is very German, almost more so than any Audi or BMW. The wagon to me is especially attractive.

    I saw many Mondeo photos on

    click on public and then search for mondeo.

    FORD pull your head out of the butt and bring this car here. Look at the success of the Focus! You will have the same with the Modeo if you bring it over!!!!!
  • We had the previous generation Mondeo, it was the Contour/Mystique. Priced similar or even higher than the Taurus with less room.

    Only those who valued the European driving experience seem to enjoy and know what the car was all about. What killed the Contour/Mystique was threefold

    1. The price of the car vs the Taurus.
    2. Poor marketing.
    3. SUV euphoria.

    I'm a Contour owner and would consider a Mondeo, but if Ford doesn't produce a performance sedan with a manual transmission, then I'll look to the German offerings such as BMW, Audi, or VW.


  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166

    it was small
    and costly as you say.

    But he big thing was that it wasn't a good looking car.

    Last I checked, most people still buy cars on looks. Why else would anyone buy a 24,000 dollar Jetta? Or a 30,000 dollar Passat? The Contour did nothing as far as looks. This Mondeo looks very Jetta-like and could sell for much less and has the space of a Passat.

    here's an interior shot.....*PV_018204.jpg

    here's an exterior shot....*PV_018184.jpg
  • Obviously GM forget that axiom when designing the Aztek.

  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    the contour was good looking....

    just not a stunner like some toher cars on the market at the time.
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