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Like cplyons, I also bought the Garmin Nuvi 660 from PCNation for $520 total (there is no tax and shipping is free). This unit is much better than any in-dash navigation i've tested. It's updatable via the web, it can function as an mp3 player, picture viewer, bluetooth device, fm transmitter, etc. Most importantly, it calculates routes in seconds and has Garmin's excellent routing algorithm. It's also very light and sits comfortably on top of dash or on the windshield.
Some cons: if you're parking in some shady area you should hide the unit and the mount so people won't break your windshield to get the device. Also it takes about 30 seconds to connect to the satellite after you turn it on.
Hyundai should eventually offer navigation as part of an option package. But personally, I'd rather save $1500 and have a portable, updatable unit.
Seeing these great cars weighed down with obsolete technology is a good reminder that if we're talking about rapidly evolving technology (like GPS), portable/replaceable wins every time.
What will the state of the art in GPS units look like in five years? Not too much like the LG coming to the Veracruz in October, I would guess. In that scenario if you have a built in unit it could be a liability not an asset at trade in time...
Also, without it you can not get the backup camera which does help, especially if you have kids or live in a neighborhood with lots of kids.
For all these reasons, I don't think it would be a liability at trade-in time unless a dramatic advance occurs or you hold the car for more than 6 years, which most people these days do not do. If you do, then more power to you. I would think that if you are worried about technology passing you buy then a 6 year old car would have a lot of it, in addition to the nav system. To continue with your line of reasoning, I don't think people buying a fifteen year old car care that much about the technology, and those that have kept the car for that long have obviously gotten over/used to it by now.
The bottom line is that if you don't want to spend the money for a built-in system then it is perfectly within your rights not to do so. But you don't have to disparage the alternative to justify your choice.
Built-in GPS and resale
While it does add value, the depreciation rate of built-in GPS/NAV is higher than the vehicle as a whole. So for most people, built-in GPS is a not high-value option monetarily.
With that said, I like the look of a built-in NAV myself, especially since you don't have loose wires all over the place. If only manufacturers wouldn't charge $200 a pop to update the DVDs every year...
1 While you are cruzin at any speed and let off the accelerator to coast, the transmission will immediately down shift to a lower gear causing a rise in RPM and a drag on the engine...nothing serious but looks like it would effect the MPG and have never noticed this on any other car. (I can manually upshift and it takes care of the issue)
2 Can you program the key fob to unlock all doors with click instead of 2 clicks?
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I am doing some "hair pulling" trying to figure out if I go the CUV route (VC, Saturn outlook) vs a small SUV 2nd Jeep. I want to stay with a V6 so just drove a new 08 Jeep Liberty today with torquey V6 and 5000 lb towing (I have an 01 Gr Cherokee with the old I6 that is rated that high but for reasons unknown the new Gr Cherokee only rates out at 3500lb towing?). I have the Veracruz in 3rd place after the Outlook now mainly since no one can tell me how well it tows but the salesman did point out the AWD locking feature which works at under 25mph for either snow or a pull-a-boat-outa-water operation and that got me thinking about the VC again. (Also drove an 08 Subaru Tribeca but just did not feel roomy enough for me despite it's glued to the road excellent AWD).
Anyone out there have an AWD VC that has towed 2500+ lbs with it??? I'll probably make a decision in the next month.
I also see that they have a 680 and a 700 series that will be released later this year although the prices are $1,000.00 and up. Thanks.
I believe the reason for the double click is security. You may not want all doors to unlock in certain situations, since someone can then easily hop in the passenger seat or rear seat. I am thinking of my wife shopping and getting into the car in a parking lot when she is alone. It is probably safer if just the driver's door unlocks.
I kind of remind myself by - if I have one or more persons with me in the car, then two clicks. Just me, one click.
I share your love for the VC.
As prices drop, thefts of GPS units soar :mad:
I don't really miss them, just thought we got the bells and whistles with the 08 Limited Ultimate.
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The folding mirror is obviously not available in the U.S. becuase the required switch is missing; and I'm sure the required motors aren't there either. The reversing feature would be nice, but I know my 08 Veracruz Limited is not so equiped either.
I may spend some time holding down various other controls (and possibly combinations of controls) to see if there might be a way to enable the scrolling of song information on a continuous, rather than once only basis.
Like you, I've done a lot of checking around, but so far I can't find any documentation outside the owner's manual.
problem with a fuel pump. it didn't start the engine
and keep cranking up. so i call them up and left it there
over the weekend. they call me there is something wrong with the feul pump and replace it.
its only a month old car.. anybody have similiar problem
i have a '07 veracruz SE AWD
does the tail gate door open with the remote?
it says to press about a second but it doesn't open.
any suggestion..
Veracruz Feature Comparison
As you have no doubt discovered, the owner's manual doesn't make distinctions on many of these features, other than to say "if so equipped". Unfortunately, there are some features described in the U.S. manual (like power retracting side mirrors and "adjust on reverse" side mirrors) that simply aren't available to U.S. owners.
What other SUV or CUVs offer 2nd row Captain's chairs as an option? I've been looking at the Highlander and Outlook.
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Does anyone on this board know? Your input would be appreciated.
No formal break-in is required in most modern cars. Today most cylinders are polished smooth(opposed to a honed finish of days gone by that required time for rings to seat). I would probably only pay special attention to maybe the brakes. No hard stops for the first few days of driving but that is only a personal opinion. Otherwise, simply enjoy your new car!
Craig
Like you, I really like my Veracruz except for this annoyance, so I would like to find a solution.
Believe me you would be better off with a Toyota product,the Vera Cruz looks good from a distance but they have a lot to learn about quality and engineering!."
Hlauburn,
Curious, can you elaborate on this statement please. Not debating what your saying. In fact maybe your right but I'd like to know if you've compared the Hyundai Veracruz to say a Highlander. Motortrend seemed to state the Veracruz held its own against the Lexus RX350.
Craig