My first guess would be a Chevy Impala? Originally sold from 1958-85, revived in FWD form for 2000. The truck engine was the 348, later enlarged to 409. I think the Impala's most popular year was 1965? I have a feeling I'm off base though, as I don't remember the 348/409 ever being fuel injected.
As for the Deville? Believe it or not, that name's been around close to 60 years! It first came out in 1949, as the name for Cadillac's first pillarless hardtop coupe. For 1950, all Cadillac coupes went hardtop, and the Coupe DeVille became a higher trim level. For 1956, they added a Sedan Deville hardtop sedan, and for 1959, DeVille became a whole model line. I forget now when they phased the DeVille name out, but by 2007 it was called DTS.
Looks like I goofed up on the Rebel's engine, though. In 1957, it was a 327 with 255 hp, lifted out of the big Nash/Hudsons, which were in their final year. Rare car too...only 1500 built.
Okay, as soon as I typed that, something else popped into my mind...what about the 1984 Corolla SR-5 coupe? The Corolla went FWD for the most part in 1984, but the coupe stayed RWD, through 1987 I think. I don't know much about Toyota's engines, but maybe they pulled the SR-5's out of their pickup truck line?
So it's the VW Beetle, but another year for the voltage switch and changing the hubcaps? Maybe 1966 when there were other changes made, like putting "1300" on the deck lid for the new larger engine.
Darn. I am going to have to check this topic more often to keep up! That was my best shot at getting one of these! Although, even if I were not a Subaru enthusiast, that one would have still been too easy given your recent purchase....
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Doh! You lost me on the "rat" part. I figured "rat" meant Nissan for sure! :P
Ah, the venerable Subaru. The model you show in your photo reminds me of a 2000 Impreza RS. I had a friend with one of those, and it was, indeed a peppy and excellent-handling car. It was not turbo-charged that year, though. The WRX took that car to a whole new level. I think the WRX was introduced to North America in what, 2002, followed by the STi in 2004?
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Are we going to have to do some Web research here, on which year the Beetle went from 6 volts to 12?! '66 sounds too late, my guess is '64 if it wasn't '63.
tlong?
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You and andre are in the right brand and the right decade, but haven't quite got it yet. I did have pop-up headlights just like the famous AE86 Corolla coupe though! :-)
And my year was the first year I had a trim that offered IRS, just like a more expensive sibling with 6 cylinders. ;-)
Andre was so close, but then he went a different way... :surprise:
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Oh well then, was it the 2.5RS you had in the picture? Because you made me think you meant the first WRX sold on U.S. shores, which I believe was the '02 MY.
Which one was it?
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Well shoot, that must be a Celica, then. I think it went FWD in '85 or so, but I have no idea what the most popular year was. "A few years later my model line went FWD...." so maybe 1980?
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I believe it was the RS that was mentioned. But there was an STi version of that generation Impreza as well...
I've been searching for the article on the vehicle but it must not be transcribed to the web. But I still have the original magazine at home (I think it was C&D although I've got collections of MT and some others as well)
Ya, I guess that wasn't a well executed participation of the thread on my part. :lemon:
Pop-up headlights started in '82 for the Celica, and it was RWD. The Supra variant had the inline 6. I don't think the Celica went to FWD until '90, then of course was dropped very recently. So there was about a 30-year run starting in '71.
Of course that was my first car, which is why I knew all of those things. I got to where I could pretty much tell beetle years between 63 and 75 by the differences in the details on the car.
For example, the first year of the black stripe bumper was 1968. In 69 they added a rear window defogger. In 70 there were vents added to the engine cover lid. In 71 they added vents behind the rear side windows. In 72 they added double vents on the engine lid. In 73 the taillights became round, and in 74 a shock absorber mount was added to the bumpers!
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nippon--the first year for 12V on a VW was 1967. This allowed you, in wintertime, to spend more time cranking before you push--started the car. Most Americanski cars switched to 12V in 1955 :P
tlong says it was '66 for the 12-volt conversion, but you say '67. Who is correct; I really don't know? I do recall the nameplate on the rear deck lid changed for the second straight year in '67 to "Volkswagen." As tlong mentioned, 1967 was also the last year for the old-style bumpers.
I used to have (probably still have it somewhere) a little booklet that described the yearly differences in the Beetle from the original '49 (in the US) up to around '75. I picked it up at a VW dealer.
tlong says it was '66 for the 12-volt conversion, but you say '67. Who is correct; I really don't know? I do recall the nameplate on the rear deck lid changed for the second straight year in '67 to "Volkswagen." As tlong mentioned, 1967 was also the last year for the old-style bumpers.
I apologize, '66 was the last year of 6v and '67 was the first 12v year (at least for the beetle).
Very close. It was an '83 Celica. In '82 they were still carbureted, in '83 they went to fuel injection except for the cheapo ST, and also introduced a "GTS" trim which had the same IRS as the Supra.
And Celicas were sold from '71-'05, so I guess that's 35 years if I'm counting right....
Oh, and they went FWD for the '86 model. And the '83 was the best-selling year of all time for the Celica.
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er....well....I mean....WELL.....a muscle car is supposed to be "a large engine in a compact body".....but yes, I have heard that appendage used on this car before. I find the person who first spoke this doctrine to be a heretic and is therefore to be burned at the stake on the altar of Car History. :P
I have been described as ""the greatest creative figure in the history of the American racing car".
I started me career building carburetors, but later teamed up with other engineers to create racing engines. Even 40 years after my death, engines derived from my ideas were still running and winning races.
I died broke. My friend Preston Tucker paid for my funeral expenses so that I would not have to be buried in a pauper's grave.
No, that's Ralph Miller. Harry Miller designed numerous race engines pre-WWII, including a 90 cid straight eight, supercharged and intercooled to yield 190 hp. From 90 ci! Harry's designs spawned the Offy.
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I keep thinking Nissan/Datsun 810 Maxima for your answer, early 80s before the shift to FWD in '85, but they still make Maximas. :confuse:
As for the Deville? Believe it or not, that name's been around close to 60 years! It first came out in 1949, as the name for Cadillac's first pillarless hardtop coupe. For 1950, all Cadillac coupes went hardtop, and the Coupe DeVille became a higher trim level. For 1956, they added a Sedan Deville hardtop sedan, and for 1959, DeVille became a whole model line. I forget now when they phased the DeVille name out, but by 2007 it was called DTS.
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Okay then, I'm gonna guess a 1982 Celica?Okay, as soon as I typed that, something else popped into my mind...what about the 1984 Corolla SR-5 coupe? The Corolla went FWD for the most part in 1984, but the coupe stayed RWD, through 1987 I think. I don't know much about Toyota's engines, but maybe they pulled the SR-5's out of their pickup truck line?
Ah, the venerable Subaru. The model you show in your photo reminds me of a 2000 Impreza RS. I had a friend with one of those, and it was, indeed a peppy and excellent-handling car. It was not turbo-charged that year, though. The WRX took that car to a whole new level. I think the WRX was introduced to North America in what, 2002, followed by the STi in 2004?
tlong?
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And my year was the first year I had a trim that offered IRS, just like a more expensive sibling with 6 cylinders. ;-)
Andre was so close, but then he went a different way... :surprise:
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Which one was it?
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I've been searching for the article on the vehicle but it must not be transcribed to the web. But I still have the original magazine at home (I think it was C&D although I've got collections of MT and some others as well)
Ya, I guess that wasn't a well executed participation of the thread on my part. :lemon:
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This is a very cool thread, good call shifty. :shades:
InterceptorFFBonus - what other first did it have?
Of course that was my first car, which is why I knew all of those things. I got to where I could pretty much tell beetle years between 63 and 75 by the differences in the details on the car.
For example, the first year of the black stripe bumper was 1968. In 69 they added a rear window defogger. In 70 there were vents added to the engine cover lid. In 71 they added vents behind the rear side windows. In 72 they added double vents on the engine lid. In 73 the taillights became round, and in 74 a shock absorber mount was added to the bumpers!
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ANOTHER: If you wrote a mystery and nobody bit on it, rewrite it a bit and re-post it, reminding us that it's up for a second time. Sometimes a mystery might get lost in the feeding frenzy.
I used to have (probably still have it somewhere) a little booklet that described the yearly differences in the Beetle from the original '49 (in the US) up to around '75. I picked it up at a VW dealer.
Or were you referring to the 'Ur-Quattro'? 1980-1981?
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I apologize, '66 was the last year of 6v and '67 was the first 12v year (at least for the beetle).
And Celicas were sold from '71-'05, so I guess that's 35 years if I'm counting right....
Oh, and they went FWD for the '86 model. And the '83 was the best-selling year of all time for the Celica.
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I started me career building carburetors, but later teamed up with other engineers to create racing engines. Even 40 years after my death, engines derived from my ideas were still running and winning races.
I died broke. My friend Preston Tucker paid for my funeral expenses so that I would not have to be buried in a pauper's grave.
Who Am I?
Here's a great book about him
And a web site
Harry Miller designed numerous race engines pre-WWII, including a 90 cid straight eight, supercharged and intercooled to yield 190 hp. From 90 ci! Harry's designs spawned the Offy.