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http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/09/autos/opinion_poll/index.htm?cnn=yes
A friend of mine got stranded when his camshaft snapped on his Rental in the middle of Idaho and needless to say, Onstar had zero signal. Just beep/static/nothing.
Supposedly customer service leaves a lot to be desired as well. If I ever did own a GM vehicle again (yeah right...), I would just let the subscription run out after the trial period.
Oh, just not in my backyard.
Tennessee Senator Is Whistling A New Tune (Auto Observer)
Sorry Corker, but GM does not sell enough Traverses to make you plant worth while.
Ford and Honda, they are the best.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Most of Tennessee is within a day's drive of half the US population. Good place to flop a factory down.
Same for me about GM! GOOD RIDDANCE!
Regards,
OW
It seems like a good place IL, IN, OH, GA, NC, MO, CA, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I have family in Tennessee and like the state, but don't think of it as being an industrial hub. More of a white water rafting and BBQ hub.
But yeah, like most places, it's turned more towards retail and service industries. For example, now Senator Corker sold protected wetlands to Wal-Mart when he was mayor there.
Good place to learn to paddle for sure - I probably canoed the Hiwassee 100 times after work over 3 years.
First, folks don't want the bailouts, stating to let the companies sink and heads should roll. Then the government gives the bailout $$ and they piss it away, present a half-a plan and ask for more, which P.O.s people even more. Then the lender says they're not giving any more money and roles heads, and now all of a sudden that's bad? Again, it's like watching Fox!!
It's like people truly believe the government wants to be in charge of these companies - they don't!! Also it seems people think the government (or any entity for that matter) is supposed to just dole out billions and then not have a say in what needs to happen or anything. NO partner / investor stays silent when they're pumping lots of cash into an entity that's flushing it away. Sorry, Wagoner had to go!!
Regards,
OW
You would think between taxes and the infrastructure from the old factories, Tennessee would be a good place to build cars.
I know that Detroit and Michigan have high taxes. I also have heard their politicians complain of brain drain.
Who else has factories there? Toyota? Nissan?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Then you have stuff like FedEx.
Don't know about Whirlpool. There used to be a big "stove" company in Cleveland iirc that made all sorts of appliances.
And of course Nissan North America is headquartered in Nashville now.
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Your assertion about the Tundra is false. But don't let facts and accuracy get in the way of a good solid misconception. Carry on.
Well I'd guess you'd get every group you never even heard of: say like, groups dedicated against everything anyone is for and meeting every leap year, whether they need to or.... not.
http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/2007/08/22/all-known-2007-toyota-tundra-p- roblems/
I know my stuff. I actually read Edmund's articles. And if I know anything, it is that no car company is perfect and that non of them deserve tax payer money. Especially Chrysler. :lemon:
...and within a day's flight of the entire world!
IMHO he made the write choice. Don't bail them out without restrictions, put the screws to them, but ultimately it is GM's, the UAW's, and the bondholder's decision whether they want to swallow the tough medicine of their own accord or whether they would like the courts to force it down their throats. Not BO's choice at all. Now the unions REALLY have some skin in the game -- and they DO NOT like that!
BTW, this kid was a service mgr for a B/P/GMC dealer in NH and previously owned not 1, but 2 GMC Sierras before his Tundra. The first one was an official :lemon: . Rear Axle replaced, front steering clunk, Transmission and a host of other things went wrong (Must've been a Friday build). Instead of having it bought back, he traded it on a new one figuring things would be better and he just was unlucky.
Not so. The second one (while not as many problems) was far from reliable, even leaving him stranded, then calling me to come rescue him from the side of 495
This kid was a diehard GM owner who had full reign over the service dept, with an entire crew at his disposal, parts at wholesale and it's own service bay for his truck to occupy while being fixed.
And yet, he defected to Toyota and now owns the Tundra and a Highlander which replaced his POS pickup and his wifes 10 mpg Suburban. :shades:
Which essentially backs up my assertion that Toyota is following GMs business model, just that they were doing it better. But now with the laurels resting on it's heads, it is going to go where GM went once before.....
..."Volkswagen holds only 2% of the U.S. market. VW officials have said the company intends to more than triple its U.S. sales to 1 million by 2018."...
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Interesting while the big four are in a literal free fall with 20 % market share and RAPIDLY declining? OEM's looking to take the place of forgotten oem's like Studebaker, Parkard, etc. Models going the way of Edsel, Aztec, etc.
Well, OK.
The UAW has been largely unwilling to negotiate with GM until it sees what concessions will be made by bondholders and others. GM realizes it needs to offer the UAW more equity in exchange for wage and benefit concessions if the company is restructured out of court, one person familiar with the matter said.
The standoff between bondholders and the UAW underscores the difficulty surrounding GM's attempt to reorganize without the coercion of bankruptcy. Key players in the Obama administration are pointing to the lack of progress as a reason that bankruptcy could be unavoidable.
Mr. Obama's auto task force has made it "crystal clear" that its members think a managed, or "prepackaged," bankruptcy is GM's best option, said to people familiar with the matter, but it is letting GM pursue the out-of-court option for now.
So, let's see if all of the parties can cordially agree to keep it out of court. BO knows the end game because he made the check-mate move.
Regards,
OW
Your point about the Camry again misunderstands the whole business case for the Camry and the Corolla. You simply don't understand the 'why'. Here's the proof. Despite Edmunds authoritative analysis the US buying public still makes the Camry the No 1 selling auto in the country - for over a decade. The Corolla is fast closing in.
Now you have to ask yourself...why is it that this disconnect occurs between the auto enthusiast sites and the buying public? Here's a hint: it's intentional. That's what you misunderstand.
Toyota Tacoma 2004 and Earlier Frame Problem
I'll go with that statement. :P
He who directs the team makes all the moves. Without his decision, the bleeding would go on unabated! Effectively, he has decided "This ends now." The Team might not know how to build cars but I am sure they know how to cut the losses and end the games...errr, GM Planning/UAW Greed, so the boss doesn't look even worse than Wagoner.
The costs to liquidate the Bad Company will be far less than waiting for the "Plan" to unfold ala typical GM/C BS style.
Regards,
OW
Also they Camry is not a bad car either, but it is no longer the leader in quality, style handling, reliability, etc. Toyota is still the greatest car company around and makes great products. Their products are just are not the best.
Even Consumer Reports took them down a notch.
Accord 4cyl got an 88
Altima 4cyl got an 85
Camry 4cyl got a 77
Malibu 4cyl got a 74
And you have to admit, while the Corolla is a great car, it doesn't have the styling or engineering of the Mazda3, Honda Civic, or Subaru Impreza.
All your comments on the Camry and Corolla still miss the 'Why'. What you are misunderstanding is that all of these comparo's are beauty pagaents. Nothing more. The only metric that counts is how many are sold and how much profit is made from them.
In this regard both the Camry and the Corolla are the leaders of the entire NA auto industry. This is business, not a beauty pagaent. It's only about money, that's all that counts. The one with the biggest profit at the end of the year is the winner.
That makes VW the Winner. They also do not have cars stacked up on the docks rusting away like Toyota. They may be down about 16%. That is much better than 30% or 50%. I think Toyota has fallen into the same trap as GM. They are playing the numbers game. Selling the most is not always the most profitable. I expect to see a lot more CamCors on the rental lots this year.