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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan Hybrid



  • tpsvtpsv Posts: 3
    Just to clarify...with sales tax of 7% and tag/title, my total was $ out price...

    Still seems to be OK as it has rapid spec 500A and NAV...

    Now I feel better:-)

    Has anyone got any Milan Hybrid from fresh order yet?
  • I got 54 mpg on my 8 mile route to work this morning. However, I wasn't running the AC and did not exceed 40 mph. Also, I haven't purchased gas yet, so I don't know if the trip computer is accurate.

    So far, I am quite pleased. :)
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    Since the AC is electric powered and does not take any power from the engine, I don't believe running it should have impact on gas mileage. Plus, with the windows up, you will be more aerodynamic. :shades:
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,771
    Power is power, so AC will make some impact.
  • otisnjotisnj Posts: 15
    Besides the obvious cosmetic differences, anything significantly different between these cars. For exmple, I have heard the often Mercury vehicles are often built with a different suspension for a softer ride. Is that the case with the hybrids?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,019
    There isn't enough battery power to run the A/C for very long without starting the engine to recharge.
  • kineticskinetics Posts: 4
    My new 2010 Fusion hybrid lasted 7 days and 500 miles before it died in the middle of traffic. Towed into the dealer 6 days ago but they say they cannot fix it because they cannot get parts!

    Ford cannot make a dent in the hybrid market this way. Ford customer support says that they will get back to me in "a few days"

    Maybe I made a mistake.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,019
    And maybe you're overreacting.
  • hayley2hayley2 Posts: 44
    Not good, hopefully not a trend. Do keep us informed however how this all plays out. I wonder if the Ford/Mercury Technicians have been to school and updated on these new vehicles? :cry:
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    Maybe you're not telling the truth. Something tells me you're a basher and a troll.
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  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    I once had a Toyota that died and took weeks to get fixed. It happens to all car lines at some point. It is not unusual for a part to be defective from the factory, and since these cars are brand new, the techs have a lot more to learn, and things like this will happen, hence the wait a year before buying a brand new model. Keep your chin up, there was something about the car you liked, otherwise you wouldn't have bought it.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    That's true, but driving with your windows down will require more power as well, especially at highway speeds.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    There is no difference between Fusion and Milan other than minor trim. Ford has not had the resources to distinguish Mercury any more than grill, tail lighta and minor interior trim for several years now. That may change when and if the company recovers. But for now, Mercury only provides slightly different clip styling to the very same Ford vehicle.
  • kineticskinetics Posts: 4
    Now the "processor" has arrived but all the lights on the dash are lit and there" is noone at Ford to figure out what to do until Monday"
  • kineticskinetics Posts: 4
    Now the processor has arrived but all the lights on the dash are lit and "there is no one at ford to help diagnose until Monday"
    retired Ford engineer
  • kineticskinetics Posts: 4
    Thanks for trying to keep the proper forum tone.
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    My apologies to all. I will stick to the FFH topic. And Kinetics, sorry about the problem. I am sure it will be fixed soon. A new car is bound to have a few issues, but nothing will be inherently wrong with the car.

    About 10 years ago, I bought a VW Passat right out of the box. It had a couple minor issues in the first couple of months, but nothing since. I sold it to a friend a couple of years ago, and it has 180 k miles and is still going strong. :shades:
  • rsnow95rsnow95 Posts: 1
    I just returned from the dealership to check out my new ride and all I can say is Wow!. We are taking delivery on Monday.

    Forget for a moment this car is a hybrid. I have to believe the Ford Fusion is one of the best mid-sized sedans on the market. If you thought about buying a 2009 because of the rebates, you will be glad that you waited. This car is vastly improved inside and out for 2010.

    We drove it about 15 miles today. What I was most impressed about was: (1) how long it stays in electric mode at speeds under 47mph; and (2) how seemless it switches between gas and electric. After driving it, the best way to maximize fuel economy is to get up to speed first. Then, let you foot off of the accelerator and you instantly going into electric mode. The switch from gas to electric is virtually undistinguishable.

    We are purchasing a Spec 501a with leather, black on black. It took about 8 weeks from the point of the initial order (DORA). The dealer graciously accepted Ford X-plan pricing. This plan is offered to friends and family, retirees and shareholders of Ford. If you work for a larger company, you should check to see if your company participates. The trick will be finding a dealer who will accept it. The good ones will and it saved us $2,000 off MSRP of $30,780.

    We have owned only mid-sized vehicles and the suspension on this car is sport-like. You are going to be really impressed with the fit and finish, as well as the quietness of the ride for the size of the car.

    If your most important goal is to just get the greatest fuel economy, you may want to consider the Prius. However, if you are looking to drive a hybrid that drives like a sedan, and offers better fuel economy, this car is a game changer and you won't be disappointed.

    The dealer told us that Ford will manufacture any FFH ordered through 4/30 and will guarantee delivery before the end of 2009. They are only planning to make 25,000 this year. Don't wait too long or you might be waiting until next year.

    Good luck and good hunting,

  • Do GM and Ford have enough hybrids to meet this order? The article I read said the hybrids would be bought before 4/15/09. I find this interesting in light of the comment rsnow95 was told "that Ford will manufacture any FFH ordered through 4/30 and will guarantee delivery before the end of 2009".

    I'm still waiting on my FFH, maybe this week.
  • bobgwtwbobgwtw Posts: 187
    Had a chance to drive the FH & MKZ back to back over the same route composed of city, curving rolling secondary & interstate. Both nice cars but for me the FH wins hands down. It's actually quieter than the Z & rides better (to be fair the Z had the sport suspension). No real difference on smooth roads but the Z rides like they forgot to put the springs under it when the road turns rough. Very impressed with the hybrid system. As several other posts have stated the transistion from gas to electric is absolutely seamless; the only way I could tell which it was running on was to look at the instruments. As for negatives, the interior looks a little on the cheap side & the wheels look like hubcaps. The had an SEL & hybrid sitting side by side & the SEL looked much, much sharper just because of the wheels.

    As for the Z, the big problem is price. I want the backup camera, cross traffic system & adaptive headlights; and to get these items you have to buy packages that push the sticker to over $40,000. It's not a $40,000 car,
  • daninoahdaninoah Posts: 45
    I think the government will order the cars and then delivery will take place over time. It seems to be just like an order for any other large item: they are delivered pursuant to a schedule, and will gradually replace the older vehicles in the fleet.

    What is clear is that Ford will have to run the Mexico plant 24/7 to meet demand. That is a good problem to have. :)
  • bigtbigt Posts: 413
    I was thinking about the 10 gig Jukebox size and although this is not necessary an issue I do wonder where they came up with that size. Heck you cannot even purchase a 10 gig drive anymore. You can get 80 gig for $40 and a 1 Terabyte drive for $95. Who knows what the price would be in a quantity purchase.

    I just paid $120 for a 64 gig flash drive so I guess I can just plug it into the USB port in the car.

    I guess the only point I would make is why not lead the pack and put a 60 or 100 gig drive in the jukebox. It would set the car apart in one of the many areas.

    Still I am very happy with the car. I especially like the cross traffic feature where you are backing out of a parking spot and you get alerted to a car coming your way. That and the blind spot features are some of my favorites.
  • wpwoodjrwpwoodjr Posts: 12
    There are unsold FFHs on dealer lots in the Philadelphia area so my guess is you can still get one pretty easily.
  • wpwoodjrwpwoodjr Posts: 12
    Yeah the 10gb hard drive; seems like you'd have to pay extra to get one that small ;-)

    Do you still like the inside fit & finish of your FFH? Or does it seem sort of gadgety after awhile? I'm talking about the LCD dash gauge and the slightly gaudy center console.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    Yeah the 10gb hard drive; seems like you'd have to pay extra to get one that small

    Its a stop-gap measure...why would you want to rip all your songs to your car when they are already on you computer and your iPod? Might as well just bring the iPod with you, since its bigger than that drive anyway. They are also slightly ruggedized to handle being in a car, and that makes them a bit pricier.

    Do you still like the inside fit & finish of your FFH? Or does it seem sort of gadgety after awhile? I'm talking about the LCD dash gauge and the slightly gaudy center console.

    I guess compared to the digital scale speedometer of the Prius and the center console display that washes out pretty much whenever the sun is out, it works well.

    Compared to the old school gauges in the Escape Hybrid, it might take some getting used to but the information in the LCD is graduated to help the driver learn the ins and outs and not overwhelm. There are a few different modes of information so the driver can have the vehicle provide coaching, vehicle info, or just speed and how much gas he has left. Thats whats cool about the LCDs, they give just the info the driver wants since they can be reconfigured easily.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,019
    A lot of folks don't have mp3 players or itunes.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    A lot of folks don't have mp3 players or itunes.

    It need not be an MP3 player, as you know; it can just be a USB memory stick. Do you think the people who either boycott the MP3 experience or are technology challenged are going to spend the time to rip a bunch of CDs to a hard drive in their car? That is a pretty big leap across the technological divide.
    I thought the main purpose of the HD was to hold vehicle info and navigation system data and the MP3 thing was kind of an afterthought.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,019
    I think putting a cd in the slot and selecting "copy" is a lot easier than ripping mp3s and copying them to a usb stick. I was just pointing out that for some folks this would be a good option and as you stated, it probably cost next to nothing.
  • hayley2hayley2 Posts: 44
    How do I register my Vin # with Ford? I cannot find the web site. I have 2010 Milan Hybrid on order that is to be built this week. Would be nice to be able to download the Owner Manual and do some advance reading before delivery. :)
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