Real-World Trade-In Values

stickguy

He had the leased Jetta. Was fine, but always regretted not getting the GLI instead. Really likes the A3, but always wanted the S3 instead.

I’m starting to see a pattern. At least this time, he went for the big dog motor.

ayatsil

qbrozen said:

ayatsil said:

qbrozen said:

ayatsil said:

How much to trade/sell:
2016 Honda Odyssey SE
24K miles
White
Rear bumper needs a paint job on one side

Thanks!

what state are you in?
What happened to the rear bumper?

Southern California
Light scrape on the side

Miles are low but that bumper is misaligned. I'll take a stab at maybe $18.5k, tops.

Wow, that is exactly what CarMax quoted...

xwesx

ayatsil said:

Wow, that is exactly what CarMax quoted...

The man knows his stuff; there's no doubt about it!

Mr_Shiftright

Said he, blowing the smoke from his Colt .45 Peacemaker.

jehnbar

Hello,

Looking at the 2017 CPO below.  $42k OTD. 

Brakes done at 30k service.  New tires at turn in from lease. 
https://www.audisouthcoast.com/certified/Audi/2017-Audi-Q7-santa-ana-ca-d47762e90a0e0ae825211e05c792ab8c.htm

qbrozen

$42k OTD is a GREAT deal for CPO. I would have expected $42k BEFORE taxes and tags.

anthonyrrr

Hello. I hope I am posting this in the right form. I am currently investigating the purchase of a 2016 GMC 1500 Denali with ultimate package features. The truck has 39000 miles and has a white Frost tri-coat color. 8 speed transmission 5.3 engine 22 inch wheels on new rubber automatic running boards that go in and out. Essentially it's fully loaded Soup To Nuts except for the 6.2 engine just has a 5.3 I was hoping I could get some insight on what this cost should be valued at thank you in advance

anthonyrrr

And by the way said dealer has complete maintenance history from 6 miles to present day and vehicle is pristine

cdnpinhead

He'll need a location to give you an accurate auction number.

anthonyrrr

Sorry and thanks for the help...14212 zip

mhockey21

Thoughts on $22,000 for a 2016 Audi Q3, 29k miles with Quattro. Clean car fax.

NOT a CPO but still has 18 months or so left on the warranty.

nyccarguy

$995 Dealer Delivery Fee - you must live in FL.

stickguy

The $502 Florida registration fee would support that!

mhockey21

@nyccarguy I am but grew up in Cos Cob! Was just at Half Full Brewery near you

However, no one answered my question

nyccarguy

mhockey21 said:

@nyccarguy I am but grew up in Cos Cob! Was just at Half Full Brewery near you

However, no one answered my question

We have a resident expert who will get back to you sometime today and give you a "dead on balls accurate" number of what you should pay for the Q3. Why the need for Quattro in FL?

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

mhockey21 said:

@nyccarguy I am but grew up in Cos Cob! Was just at Half Full Brewery near you

However, no one answered my question

We have a resident expert who will get back to you sometime today and give you a "dead on balls accurate" number of what you should pay for the Q3. Why the need for Quattro in FL?

It's hard to order a car from the used car factory...

mhockey21

Here's the final question then, I can get a
2016 Q3 (above) NON CPO, Warranty ends in 20 months for $22k
OR
2015 Q3, CPO. 35k miles. From Audi dealer. CPO ends 6/2020. 4 brand new tires. $20,551

Both have same trims.

xwesx

mhockey21 said:

Here's the final question then, I can get a
2016 Q3 (above) NON CPO, Warranty ends in 20 months for $22k
OR
2015 Q3, CPO. 35k miles. From Audi dealer. CPO ends 6/2020. 4 brand new tires. $20,551

Both have same trims.

So, basically you'd pay an extra $1,500 for 6,000 miles and less warranty. Any other major differences? I know which would be on my list, but I'm a big fan of low cost.

mhockey21

@xwesx ? The 2016 has a longer warranty. 6k less miles.

The MSRPs were 38,420 for 2015
2016 - 38,545

I feel more comfortable buying the Audi CPO from Audi rather than an Audi from a non Audi dealer. Is that crazy?

More just want to make sure I'm getting a good price

xwesx

mhockey21 said:

@xwesx ? The 2016 has a longer warranty. 6k less miles.

The MSRPs were 38,420 for 2015
2016 - 38,545

I feel more comfortable buying the Audi CPO from Audi rather than an Audi from a non Audi dealer. Is that crazy?

More just want to make sure I'm getting a good price

A little, but peace of mind means something. The warranty on the two vehicles may not cover the same things either. And, sorry about that; I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around 2020 being NEXT YEAR! Hahhaha

stickguy

The BtB warranty is better coverage than the COO. long term, that 2016 is probably a better deal.

Mr_Shiftright

mhockey21 said:

@xwesx ? The 2016 has a longer warranty. 6k less miles.

The MSRPs were 38,420 for 2015
2016 - 38,545

I feel more comfortable buying the Audi CPO from Audi rather than an Audi from a non Audi dealer. Is that crazy?

More just want to make sure I'm getting a good price

It's not crazy, but it doesn't mean you'll get the better car. There's a lot of puffery in CPOs, so personally I wouldn't pay too much extra for it. It depends strictly on what value is added to the CPO'd car--the term "CPO" by itself shouldn't sway you.

mhockey21

The four new tires and 35k mile service make me feel better about the CPO that's for sure ...

I should mention I'll be putting roughly 3k miles a year on this car...

anthonyrrr

Hi. I was inquiring about a 2016 Denali pick up a few posts back. Anyone have feedback. Thanks

cdnpinhead

The person who has access to the real data on this board is qbrozen, and he has an actual life beyond this board -- it'll often take him awhile to respond. At least in my case, everyone else on here has opinions, but that's about it.

xwesx

I'm sure he'll follow up before too long. He posted a little bit ago that he was out helping his brother buy a vehicle.

@mhockey21 At that mileage per year, and if you plan to keep it a while, I wouldn't worry to much either way. If the equipment on both is basically the same, get which you prefer and never look back.

qbrozen

anthonyrrr said:

Hello. I hope I am posting this in the right form. I am currently investigating the purchase of a 2016 GMC 1500 Denali with ultimate package features. The truck has 39000 miles and has a white Frost tri-coat color. 8 speed transmission 5.3 engine 22 inch wheels on new rubber automatic running boards that go in and out. Essentially it's fully loaded Soup To Nuts except for the 6.2 engine just has a 5.3 I was hoping I could get some insight on what this cost should be valued at thank you in advance

I'll take a guess it is a crew cab 4x4. $38k-$38.5k would be fair.

qbrozen

mhockey21 said:

Here's the final question then, I can get a
2016 Q3 (above) NON CPO, Warranty ends in 20 months for $22k
OR
2015 Q3, CPO. 35k miles. From Audi dealer. CPO ends 6/2020. 4 brand new tires. $20,551

Both have same trims.

same trim ... which is ... ?

mhockey21

@qbrozen sent you links

Premium Plus Quattro

qbrozen

Thanks.

So, I don’t know why, but both are being offered to you at auction value. Take your pick. For the price difference, I’d prob pick the younger model. Although 4 new tires and longer warranty might be preferable. I can understand your dilemma. 

28firefighter

My opinion is drive both, assess the condition of both, and pick whichever one seems to be in better shape. I'd pick the younger car with B2B warranty, personally, unless the CPO was in much better shape.

corvette

I think I'd take the 2016 Q3. When they go to sell it, having a year newer model should still be worth $1,500 or so.

anthonyrrr

qbrozen said:

anthonyrrr said:

Hello. I hope I am posting this in the right form. I am currently investigating the purchase of a 2016 GMC 1500 Denali with ultimate package features. The truck has 39000 miles and has a white Frost tri-coat color. 8 speed transmission 5.3 engine 22 inch wheels on new rubber automatic running boards that go in and out. Essentially it's fully loaded Soup To Nuts except for the 6.2 engine just has a 5.3 I was hoping I could get some insight on what this cost should be valued at thank you in advance

I'll take a guess it is a crew cab 4x4. $38k-$38.5k would be fair.

So 37000 even plus tax and dmv fees, I guess i did ok . Next question is what extended warranty. They are trying to sell me an "interstate warranty "
That's the company. 10 year 100000 mile from the fate of my purchase for 3400 plus tax.

explorerx4

@anthonyrrr,
Can you search for someone who sells GM(not other party) warranties online?
You might be able to get a factory one for a lot less.

henryn

anthonyrrr said:

Next question is what extended warranty. They are trying to sell me an "interstate warranty "
That's the company. 10 year 100000 mile from the fate of my purchase for 3400 plus tax.

That is an entirely different question, not related.

There are probably a gazillion different threads in a bazillion different forums about this very subject.

My personal take: I have never, and will never, invest in an extended warranty sold and backed by anyone other than the vehicle manufacturer.

Remember one golden rule: an extended warranty is insurance. And all insurance is a bet, a gamble if you will. Extended warranties tend to be stacked very heavily in favor of the issuing company. They make the odds in Vegas look positively reasonable.

These days, I have the wherewithal to be able to pay for any repairs out of pocket, so I choose to carry my own insurance.

YMMV

explorerx4

On high end vehicles there are a lot of things that can be expensive to replace.
For example the headlight/taillight housings with built in LED's on my wife's MKC are about $500 each.
The radar taillights on my F-150 are in the $900 range each.

corvette

I have little idea what replacement part costs on either of my vehicles run. I'd definitely consider an extended warranty on a vehicle I suspected might be problematic--one of the early BMW twin turbo I6 engines, an Alfa or Fiat, etc.

That Sierra Denali sounds ideal, other than I'd prefer the 6.2 liter engine.

anthonyrrr

I agree with all mentioned and there is a 100 dollar deductible per occurence. That being said 100 dollars doesn't cover the hr of shop labor. For ten years that's 340 a year less than 34 dollars a month. I have a Subaru legacy the goes through wheel bearings like gasoline. I wish I had so coverage. Life is a gamble. Sometimes a little piece of mind of priceless so to speak

Buylow1

Hi,

I'm looking for an estimate trade in value for:

2008 BMW M3 sedan in Jet Black
manual
101k
Washington

Any chance you have current dealer auction value data for:

Toyota 4runner TRD PRO
2015
Black or White
55k-85k miles

I'm seeing $33k for higher mileage and $36k for lower mileage in the western states. I was hoping for $31-33k range.

Thank you!!

qbrozen

About $14k trade on the m3.

4runner won’t be that cheap unless somethkng is wrong with it. Cheapest ones with under 100k still fetch $32k. 

You may want to look into leasing. They are pretty cheap from that perspective.

kyfdx

Holy cow, that's a lot of car for $14K!!

Oh wait, it's 2019 now, right?

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

Holy cow, that's a lot of car for $14K!!

Oh wait, it's 2019 now, right?

I know. Hard to believe a 2008 Car is 11 years old. Time does FLY!

Buylow1

qbrozen said:

About $14k trade on the m3.

4runner won’t be that cheap unless somethkng is wrong with it. Cheapest ones with under 100k still fetch $32k. 

You may want to look into leasing. They are pretty cheap from that perspective.

Very informative, thank you!!

kyfdx said:

Holy cow, that's a lot of car for $14K!!

Oh wait, it's 2019 now, right?

Craziness! Might just have to keep for the sunny days.

Buylow1

I know it might sound like I'm all over the map, but I'm also looking at the following scenarios:

Trade in value for:
2014 Lexus CT200h
White
48k miles

Potential buy for:
-2016 Lexus GSF (nationwide search). Seems like more lease returns coming in and price ranges from $47k-$60k with less than 30k miles. Debating if I should wait until end of year to better gauge the lease effects.

-2015 Toyota 4runner SR5 Premium with 90k. Asking $24k

Thank you in advance!!

xwesx

@Buylow1 , it sounds like you may need to visit us over at Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous.... There's very little that is "crazy" around here.

qbrozen

Buylow1 said:

I know it might sound like I'm all over the map, but I'm also looking at the following scenarios:

Trade in value for:
2014 Lexus CT200h
White
48k miles

Potential buy for:
-2016 Lexus GSF (nationwide search). Seems like more lease returns coming in and price ranges from $47k-$60k with less than 30k miles. Debating if I should wait until end of year to better gauge the lease effects.

-2015 Toyota 4runner SR5 Premium with 90k. Asking $24k

Thank you in advance!!

ct200h trade, $12k-$12.5k

GSF, $48k-$50k, depending

4runner, $24k is cheap. worth $22.5k-$23k at auction if its clean and no prior damage.

Buylow1

@qbrozen You're amazing!

Buylow1

xwesx said:

@Buylow1 , it sounds like you may need to visit us over at Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous.... There's very little that is "crazy" around here.

I do have a problem! Just fulfilling my childhood dreams

Buylow1

qbrozen said:

Buylow1 said:

4runner, $24k is cheap. worth $22.5k-$23k at auction if its clean and no prior damage.

Do you have a trade in value for this? It is a local trade in at a major dealership (non-Toyota). Very curious to see the gap and potential pricing leverage.

28firefighter

22.5-23k at auction means they may have stepped up a bit over if it was really nice on a trade because they wouldn't have transport costs - that would hurt your leverage. I'd say there is no price leverage in this, especially if they had to do any reconditioning.