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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,100
    The Colorado contingent all like the color.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    I always loved the RSX. But I think my 2 door sporty coupe days are over. Well, for a regular car. But I love that color, and it would make a fine toy. I think it is overpriced though.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,272
    The Type-S is a gorgeous color, but I'd take the TL every day over it. Did the 2004+ TLs even have the defective automatics? I thought the 1998-2003 ones were most affected.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    it was still hit or miss. certainly in the Odyssey. I think the TL just did not have as much stress so lasted better

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,678
    Of the two, I prefer thee TL; great second car or teen's first.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    therealbofa said:

    Hey fellas - can you help me with a value on this one?

    2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited, Red, ~39K miles, 80104

    Similar one just went through PA auction for $31.5k.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    I thought that TL was a Type S at first until I saw the year.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    I thought all the manuals were type S? Or was that not true in the first year of the run?

    I do love that generation TL. Best of the bunch. I remember test driving when the first came out, a stick and an AT. A much nicer version of my 5 speed maxima SE. though I recall thinking at the time the AT fit the car better.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    No, pretty certain a manual was available throughout the 3G TL's entire run. The wheels are what threw me off at first, as the TL-S wasn't introduced until 2007.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,487
    qbrozen said:

    therealbofa said:

    Hey fellas - can you help me with a value on this one?

    2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited, Red, ~39K miles, 80104

    Similar one just went through PA auction for $31.5k.
    What are they asking for that 2016? A dealer near me has this Black 2019 Ex-Rental 4Runner TRD Sport Premium with 18K miles listed for $34,6 (plus they have an outrageous conveyance fee).

    https://www.lexusofgreenwich.com/used/Toyota/2019-Toyota-4Runner-00eb46f20a0d04fe3466cebad852c959.htm

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • therealbofatherealbofa Member Posts: 59
    qbrozen said:

    therealbofa said:

    Hey fellas - can you help me with a value on this one?

    2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited, Red, ~39K miles, 80104

    Similar one just went through PA auction for $31.5k.
    Thank you! I'll let you know how it goes.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    I've gotten rid of a few cars over my lifetime (not as many as many here!).

    2 cars I drove for quite some time were dumped on my parents to do the "getting rid of it honors." I believe both were traded in.
    1. 1st car I bought new I sold private party. 1st used car "we" bought I sold private party as well. Started 2 for 2 there!
    2. 2nd car I bought new sold private party, sounds like 3 for 3, but then there's my wife... so:
    3. First Honda is see above, but 2nd Honda got totalled.... dropped off at the body shop by tow truck. 3rd Honda sold to Carmax (guess that's a trade-in too, with an ***). Might need to call these sales "used car buyers" or something different.

    5. Traded in my 2nd Audi.
    6. Sold the VW in a diesel buyback by dealership.
    7. Sold the next VW to CARVANA!!! ***
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • Noselling11Noselling11 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2019
    Q, is there a way to see how much they paid for it? Vin SALMF1E48BA336096
    Says wen through Florida auction, September 9.
    Thank you.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    Noselling11 said:

    Q, is there a way to see how much they paid for it? Vin SALMF1E48BA336096
    Says wen through Florida auction, September 9.
    Thank you.

    I see it on 10/9 for $12.2k at a North Carolina auction. White with 76k miles. Condition rated a 3.5 out of 5, which is about average.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,678
    Solid profit for them if they sell at the listed price of $19K.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    Problem is, the dealers seem to be setting their own market. Search nationwide for that vehicle and you can't find one advertised for less than $17k with fewer than 100k miles. At least, that's what I found on cargurus.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    Is this about a 2008 Audi Q7? Or am I confused?

    https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WA1BY74L88D047502

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    it is a 2011 Range Rover Supercharged

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,818
    That sounds like something you should have an exorcism performed on before buying new, let alone used...
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • Noselling11Noselling11 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2019
    Thank you gentlemen, I just cant help it, looking for one. :)
    But I agree, the market is all over, they give low kbb for trades and often list above retail.
  • Noselling11Noselling11 Member Posts: 5
    28firefighter said:

    That sounds like something you should have an exorcism performed on before buying new, let alone used...

    Yearly. :)
  • bryanbryan Member Posts: 198
    https://fitzmall.com/Inventory/Detail/00006721908/USED-2017-Cadillac-CT6%20Sedan

    Hi: I was wondering if qbrozen would be so kind to share his expertise on this Cadillac CT6?

    I'm a tad baffled by the CarFax. It indicates it was a corporate vehicle, but I see no service history. Should I be concerned? And according to research elsewhere here at Edmunds, the asking price is in the ballpark. Especially since it is Certified. Car looks to be in excellent condition from the pictures.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    Bryan
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    I wouldn’t worry too much about the carfax. You can always have the dealer pull the service records.

    Price is nuts. Top of the mark at auction is $40k. Even as a CPO, I wouldn’t be able to go higher than $44k, personally.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • therealbofatherealbofa Member Posts: 59
    qbrozen said:

    therealbofa said:

    Hey fellas - can you help me with a value on this one?

    2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited, Red, ~39K miles, 80104

    Similar one just went through PA auction for $31.5k.
    Couldn't get this number. Carmax offered 28K but I ended up working out 29.5K at another dealer. Thanks for the help though!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    SIL has a lease coming due. considering buying out her current lease, but I don't think it makes sense. so checking for RW numbers (trade and guesstimate of what should pay retail if possible). I am waiting for her to find out the residual still.

    2017 Acura RDX. White. about 36,000 miles. original tires. Probably needs some reconditioning (bumper scrapes from city parking, stuff like that, which I doubt she had addressed). Generally beat up a smidge, but probably just needs a serious detail.

    AWD, but base model (no tech package).

    On Long Island.

    She is having sticker shock when I tell her what leases are going for these days. She got a steal last time on this one (large part to QB coming up with a trade in value for her trashed MDX).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    Probably about $19.5k, maybe $20k trade. Fair retail would be around $24k’ish.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    edited October 2019
    thanks. Though I think that is light on the asking. I will double check Carvana again and cars.com

    I think her residual is upper 20s. Already told her it does not make much sense. without money to put down, payment is going to be sky high anyway.

    edit: I was wrong. this is pretty much the same car, in nicer condition, for about that.

    https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1320071

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    you are actually spot on. Much better deal, on a certified unit.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/773457966/overview/

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    edited October 2019
    I was talking fair retail purchase. I assume asking prices will generally be higher. That CPO unit is a good deal.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,272
    stickguy said:

    you are actually spot on. Much better deal, on a certified unit.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/773457966/overview/

    Check the reviews on that dealer - apparently they add a hefty "safety and reconditioning fee" to their advertised prices.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,722
    edited October 2019
    @qbrozen
    Traded my 2017 Fusion in a couple of weeks ago.
    Car went on the dealer website for about a week, but never got to the point of having a price or pictures posted, before it dropped off.
    Not sure if they sold it or wholesaled it.
    Can you see if it went through an auction if I give you the VIN?
    I'm curious.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    explorerx4 said:

    @qbrozen
    Traded my 2017 Fusion in a couple of weeks ago.
    Car went on the dealer website for about a week, but never got to the point of having a price or pictures posted, before it dropped off.
    Not sure if they sold it or wholesaled it.
    Can you see if it went through an auction if I give you the VIN?
    I'm curious.

    Sometimes, but not often. The only time a VIN seems to work is when it is currently in the system. If it went through in the past, I can only see color, condition, miles, etc.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,722
    edited October 2019
    @Q,
    If you are bored, 2017 Fusion SE from CT, gray, moon roof, excellent condition, traded in with 21446 miles on it.
    I think a lot of 2017 Fusion's are gray.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    explorerx4 said:

    @Q,
    If you are bored, 2017 Fusion SE from CT, gray, moon roof, excellent condition, traded in with 21446 miles on it.
    I think a lot of 2017 Fusion's are gray.

    FWD or AWD? Which engine?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,722
    edited October 2019
    FWD with 1.5 ecoboost. Leather seats, too. Not sure what details are available to you.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    Closest was a grey with 21,910 miles, but it went through in Nashville. Got $13.5k.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,722
    edited October 2019
    @Q,
    Thanks, 13.5 was my first offer at 2 dealerships.
    Carvana was 14.2. Ended up getting 14.2 and trade in sales tax credit
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • treyxttreyxt Member Posts: 36
    could anyone help with a 2018 ford focus st (st1 package) 11k miles in MD, great condition, grey with premium wheels
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,100
    treyxt said:

    could anyone help with a 2018 ford focus st (st1 package) 11k miles in MD, great condition, grey with premium wheels

    Condition?
    How much tire left is left?
    Any incidents?

    All of this will help our in house experts get you an accurate value.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    treyxt said:

    could anyone help with a 2018 ford focus st (st1 package) 11k miles in MD, great condition, grey with premium wheels

    Assuming “great” really means great and no past paintwork, its about $17k trade. Figure $20k-$21k fair retail purchase price.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    For 2018, Ford finally fixed the auto tranny lugging issue and every new 2018 Focus we got at Hertz, most were the Titanium model, drove perfectly. Tanny shifted as it should with no hard shudder even once. I was able to drive a bunch of them and all worked like they should. A shame Ford has discontinued the Focus hatch because I was seriously considering buying a 2020 if they were still available. Now I drive a VW Golf, a 2015 SE model, and it drives beautifully. I don't really like most domestic vehicles but, I was seriously considering getting a new Focus next year, a Titanium hatchback, until I was told Ford won't be producing anymore. Now if a diehard import lover would even consider a Ford product is strange at first glance. It just proved to me how Ford finally got this vehicle right after denying there was an issue for years. Many lawsuits were filed I'm sure as those earlier ones were hideous vehicles.
    Now, I might have to check out the new Ford Escape as I like the looks. Now, the 2014 Escape just barely fit on my side of the garage and if it's the same size, the 2020 won't fit properly either I'm afraid. And the EcoSport is just too downright slow for me, has no get up and go like my turbo charged VW Golf does. And I want a vehicle that can go when I mash on that accelerator! I mean GO!

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  • treyxttreyxt Member Posts: 36
    My wife is also looking to trade in her 2017 Chevy Malibu L with about 29k miles on it, in great condition, dark blue, in MD.
  • treyxttreyxt Member Posts: 36
    Michaell said:

    treyxt said:

    could anyone help with a 2018 ford focus st (st1 package) 11k miles in MD, great condition, grey with premium wheels

    Condition?
    How much tire left is left?
    Any incidents?

    All of this will help our in house experts get you an accurate value.
    No incidents, Very Good Condition, Good tread on tires, but have a tire warranty if that helps?
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,678
    treyxt said:

    have a tire warranty if that helps?

    It probably will not. Most tire warranties specifically state non-transferable.

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    treyxt said:

    My wife is also looking to trade in her 2017 Chevy Malibu L with about 29k miles on it, in great condition, dark blue, in MD.

    Very limited comparables, but I’d guess around $10k.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • NikNak2NikNak2 Member Posts: 2
    qbrozen said:

    treyxt said:

    My wife is also looking to trade in her 2017 Chevy Malibu L with about 29k miles on it, in great condition, dark blue, in MD.

    Very limited comparables, but I’d guess around $10k.
    Best thing to do check is get the online car buyers to give you an instance quote add another 15-20% and you more or less know what you can get for it when you sell privately. Think you should be able to get upto 12k if you re a bit lucky and styaing in an urban area.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    NikNak2 said:

    qbrozen said:

    treyxt said:

    My wife is also looking to trade in her 2017 Chevy Malibu L with about 29k miles on it, in great condition, dark blue, in MD.

    Very limited comparables, but I’d guess around $10k.
    Best thing to do check is get the online car buyers to give you an instance quote add another 15-20% and you more or less know what you can get for it when you sell privately. Think you should be able to get upto 12k if you re a bit lucky and styaing in an urban area.
    Percentages don’t work when prices can vary so greatly. I, for one, am not going to pay 20% markup on a $50k used car.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] ColoradoPosts: 0
    Could I please get an idea on this one in Colorado:

    2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD
    Silver over Black
    Leather, Moonroof, Roof Rack
    84k miles
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,735
    dad23 said:

    Could I please get an idea on this one in Colorado:

    2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD
    Silver over Black
    Leather, Moonroof, Roof Rack
    84k miles

    Assuming no paintwork and no current maintenance needs, about $12k-$12.5k. Maybe as much as $13.5k from one of the online places.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] ColoradoPosts: 0
    Thanks @qbrozen

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