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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,783
    edited August 2019
    I agree, and speaking as the former brown Volvo guy, I wouldn't personally spend $30k on a design that old. Especially a T5 with no ACC. If you're really going to keep something for 6+ years, it has to be a newer design, with better infotainment, safety features, etc.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    I love the colors too. Agreed about the dash, at least at that price point. It’s still way more modern (and well equipped) than the RDX it would be replacing. But compared to the new design, it seems like an antique. But same goes for the RDX.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,678
    stickguy said:
    beautiful colors; looks like a lot of wear and tear, or maybe just poorly cleaned, for 30,000 miles.
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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,617
    God forbid that anyone would have to drive a vehicle with a dated centre stack, but that's just me.
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,783
    edited August 2019
    I hear what you’re saying, and if you already have it, great. But if the idea is a long term hold, why spend north of 30K for something that’s already out of date? Especially for a card-carrying CCBA member? I’ve used that Volvo interface for four years, and while it has some nice features, they aren’t easy to get to.

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234

    God forbid that anyone would have to drive a vehicle with a dated centre stack, but that's just me.

    I was gonna say, didn't seem as dated as the center stack in my RDX.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2021 VW TIguan SE 4Motion
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,942
    Yeah .. the tech evolves so fast. When we got the 2017 Enclave, that was one thing I remember telling my wife. “It won’t have CarPlay or the latest tech in it”.

    The system is at least very easy to use, but it’s very antiquated now. It’s getting glitchy too, I’m almost ready to see if the dealer has any firmware updates for it.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,720
    @qbrozen,
    A few days ago, I asked about the value of my 2017 Fusion.
    After visiting several sites to get a value, I think I found some interesting stuff.
    Your numbers were 13.5 trade in, 14.5, CARV buying website.
    Went to Kelly and after checking all appropriate boxes, their number was 14.6.
    Some others were much higher, so I'm ignoring those as not realistic.
    When I did the Kelly quote I checked every appropriate box.
    Got a quote from CARV, only checking Lux and Tech pkg, not all the individual features.
    They came back with 14,125.
    Noticed their interface looks exactly the same as Kelly.
    Went back to Kelly only checking the same boxes(Lux, Tech).
    None of the individual features included in the packages got checked off.
    Their number changed to 14,275.
    Makes sense that it was higher because they didn't ask if I owed any money on the car, which I do.
    Going to wait a few days and reenter my CARV quote, also just sent in my payment.
    I'm having fun with this, since I actually have some equity.


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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,818
    @qbrozen Could you humor me and tell me what this bad boy should go for?

    https://www.universityvw.com/vehicle-details/used-1-2017-volkswagen-golf-gti-se-seattle-wa-id-32032247

    High-level

    2017 GTI SE 6spd
    Pure White
    Titan Black
    6800 miles
    Performance Package
    CPO (3 years 36k B2B warranty)
    Seattle area
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,440
    Nice low miles

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,089
    I know you get more equipment on the SE, but I miss the plaid seats.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Get a 2018 - then you can get the SE w/Plaid. ;)

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,818
    breld said:

    Get a 2018 - then you can get the SE w/Plaid. ;)

    But no Fender Audio if you get an SE with Plaid.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,089

    breld said:

    Get a 2018 - then you can get the SE w/Plaid. ;)

    But no Fender Audio if you get an SE with Plaid.
    I'm not an audiophile; I likely won't miss it.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733

    @qbrozen Could you humor me and tell me what this bad boy should go for?

    https://www.universityvw.com/vehicle-details/used-1-2017-volkswagen-golf-gti-se-seattle-wa-id-32032247

    High-level

    2017 GTI SE 6spd
    Pure White
    Titan Black
    6800 miles
    Performance Package
    CPO (3 years 36k B2B warranty)
    Seattle area

    That's a great price with the PP. Looking at $21k at the block.

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  • sb55sb55 Member Posts: 657
    @qbrozen
    Any info on this car?
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/783678051/overview/
    It is very loaded with about every option. Also, it was in the Pacific NW and ended up at a dealer in Connecticut. Is that a normal distance for an auction vehicle to travel?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    sb, that is a gorgeous car. love the colors. Got the B&W stereo too.

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  • sb55sb55 Member Posts: 657
    stickguy said:

    sb, that is a gorgeous car. love the colors. Got the B&W stereo too.

    I saw that. $3k option? I'm not an audiophile and wouldn't order it, but if it's there, that's OK.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    it is expensive. The HK is good also, but this one is supposed to be one of the best systems available in a car.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,818
    For a $3200 upgrade, it better sound like they're playing live from my car.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,440

    For a $3200 upgrade, it better sound like they're playing live from my car.

    And, they should bring the drugs...

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,487
    kyfdx said:

    For a $3200 upgrade, it better sound like they're playing live from my car.

    And, they should bring the drugs...
    And some groupies

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    sb55 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any info on this car?
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/783678051/overview/
    It is very loaded with about every option. Also, it was in the Pacific NW and ended up at a dealer in Connecticut. Is that a normal distance for an auction vehicle to travel?

    no, not normal. Not sure it went through auction, though. No idea why it traveled across the country.

    Auction value would be right around $40k ... roughly. They aren't terribly consistent.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,270
    It’s strange how really expensive options on a new car add little cost on a used one. I think the difference between a used Murano SV and SL was about $1,000 when I bought mine. I didn’t even look at a Platinum because the SL had the features I wanted and I didn’t want the bigger wheels on the Platinum.
  • sb55sb55 Member Posts: 657
    qbrozen said:

    sb55 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any info on this car?
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/783678051/overview/
    It is very loaded with about every option. Also, it was in the Pacific NW and ended up at a dealer in Connecticut. Is that a normal distance for an auction vehicle to travel?

    no, not normal. Not sure it went through auction, though. No idea why it traveled across the country.

    Auction value would be right around $40k ... roughly. They aren't terribly consistent.
    So what would a reasonable offer on a CPO be? I'm thinking $43K? Also, what's my 2014 535d x-drive with 83K miles worth on a trade?

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,678
    sb55 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any info on this car?
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/783678051/overview/
    It is very loaded with about every option. Also, it was in the Pacific NW and ended up at a dealer in Connecticut. Is that a normal distance for an auction vehicle to travel?

    My goodness. That is one pretty car.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    sb55 said:

    qbrozen said:

    sb55 said:

    @qbrozen
    Any info on this car?
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/783678051/overview/
    It is very loaded with about every option. Also, it was in the Pacific NW and ended up at a dealer in Connecticut. Is that a normal distance for an auction vehicle to travel?

    no, not normal. Not sure it went through auction, though. No idea why it traveled across the country.

    Auction value would be right around $40k ... roughly. They aren't terribly consistent.
    So what would a reasonable offer on a CPO be? I'm thinking $43K? Also, what's my 2014 535d x-drive with 83K miles worth on a trade?
    I don’t think you’ll get it to 43. Maybe 45 would get it done. No harm in pushing for more. Looking at about 15 on yours. So $30k difference in the two.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    I have the Fender audio system in my 2015 Golf SE and am very pleased with it. I've never gone more than 1/2 way with the volume and it fills the cabin up nicely at that point. I know I would pass on any vehicle without a specialty audio system as they mean that much to me. And if not included, I'd be at an aftermarket car stereo store within days after the purchase to add components to make the audio system work for me. Have done that on every vehicle I've ever owned because I have to gave it. I always try to factor in an extra thousand or more to upgrade the tunes if necessary. And it's something I won't compromise on...end of story!!

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  • AlpineshadowAlpineshadow Member Posts: 1
    Thoughts on what would be a good offer for this? Low mileage LCI M2, not CPO but still a lot of warranty left.

    https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inventory/used-2018-bmw-m2-2dr-cpe-rwd-2dr-car-wbs1j5c50jvd37208
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    edited September 2019

    Thoughts on what would be a good offer for this? Low mileage LCI M2, not CPO but still a lot of warranty left.

    https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inventory/used-2018-bmw-m2-2dr-cpe-rwd-2dr-car-wbs1j5c50jvd37208

    $47k auction value, so not much wiggle room likely. All depends what they own it for, of course. If they took it on trade themselves, it is possible they got it for 45.

    Note that the carfax shows 75 more miles than the listing. Someone has been joyriding. :)

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,320

    Thoughts on what would be a good offer for this? Low mileage LCI M2, not CPO but still a lot of warranty left.

    https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inventory/used-2018-bmw-m2-2dr-cpe-rwd-2dr-car-wbs1j5c50jvd37208

    Moonroof? Ack!

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,818

    Thoughts on what would be a good offer for this? Low mileage LCI M2, not CPO but still a lot of warranty left.

    https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inventory/used-2018-bmw-m2-2dr-cpe-rwd-2dr-car-wbs1j5c50jvd37208

    Moonroof? Ack!
    But has 3 pedals....
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    moonroofs are wonderful features.

    I figure, if the sunlight bothers you, can just leave the shade closed!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,320
    edited September 2019

    Thoughts on what would be a good offer for this? Low mileage LCI M2, not CPO but still a lot of warranty left.

    https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inventory/used-2018-bmw-m2-2dr-cpe-rwd-2dr-car-wbs1j5c50jvd37208

    Moonroof? Ack!
    But has 3 pedals....
    Yes- better than a DCT w/o a hole in the roof, but when I get an M2C it will be built to my specs exactly.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,320
    stickguy said:

    moonroofs are wonderful features.

    I figure, if the sunlight bothers you, can just leave the shade closed!

    Except that my wife and I never use them- and they add about 65 pounds to the highest point of the car...

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,925
    stickguy said:

    moonroofs are wonderful features.

    I figure, if the sunlight bothers you, can just leave the shade closed!

    Besides the 65 pounds added to the highest/worst point in the car, you usually lose 1 to 1.5" of headroom height, important for people over 6' tall.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    not in a CUV. I sit "tall" and really only had 1 normal car that it caused an issue (the TL). I have so much clearance in the RDX that another 2 inches would be totally useless, unless I started wearing a 10 gallon hat while driving!

    and in a 4,000# "trucklet" the extra weight up top (whatever it really is) is not likely to make any material difference. And if you want to go racing on the track, I am pretty sure a Santa Fe or Outback is not the right choice!

    of course it is personal opinion. If you don't like it, don't get it. I love it and use it all the time. I would gladly trade off the 20-21" ultra low profile tires a lot of companies seem to force on you now. those are completely useless, and are actually a negative (more prone to damage, add unsprung weight, stiffer ride, noisier). I am sure normal sized tires I would notice. not having a roof, I never would in terms of driving dynamics.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,925
    stickguy said:

    not in a CUV. I sit "tall" and really only had 1 normal car that it caused an issue (the TL). I have so much clearance in the RDX that another 2 inches would be totally useless, unless I started wearing a 10 gallon hat while driving!

    and in a 4,000# "trucklet" the extra weight up top (whatever it really is) is not likely to make any material difference. And if you want to go racing on the track, I am pretty sure a Santa Fe or Outback is not the right choice!

    of course it is personal opinion. If you don't like it, don't get it. I love it and use it all the time. I would gladly trade off the 20-21" ultra low profile tires a lot of companies seem to force on you now. those are completely useless, and are actually a negative (more prone to damage, add unsprung weight, stiffer ride, noisier). I am sure normal sized tires I would notice. not having a roof, I never would in terms of driving dynamics.

    I'm with you on the wheels/tires getting absurdly large. Also, there is high inflation on tires lately as I'm checking prices.
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,942
    I’m so glad my Volvo “only” has 18s. They are pretty low profile, but the 19s are only asking for trouble.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    I saw a red version of your car tonight at shop rite. Really sharp looking.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,942
    I drove it a good bit today. I gotta say I absolutely love it. One of my favorite cars I’ve ever owned only a month and 700 miles in.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,733
    tjc78 said:

    One of my favorite cars I’ve ever owned only a month and 700 miles in.

    ...on a Tuesday, in September, on an odd numbered year ...

    LOL

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,678
    andres3 said:

    I'm with you on the wheels/tires getting absurdly large. Also, there is high inflation on tires lately as I'm checking prices.


    Hahahha; high inflation. Wait, did you intend that pun? ;)
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  • maryhmaryh Member Posts: 8
    Can I get an estimated trade in value for a 2016 Subaru Forester XT Touring with 43k miles, new tires, looks new- no dings etc... color-white. Thanks!
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,818
    You'll need to provide your location.

    If you're up in the PNW, that car is going to bring silly money. Super rare and very in demand. Curious to see what the sages say.
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  • magnumekmagnumek Member Posts: 53
    edited September 2019
    Hi. I am looking for a second car. I am currently driving an Infiniti G37x. I would want a pre-owned car thats reliable, has low depreciation, is fun to drive and gives a luxurious feel. I am planning to change it in ~3 years so I want to keep a high resale value. I am considering two, not sure which should I pick:

    2014 Lexus IS 250 with 70k miles - $15000

    2015 Infiniti Q50 with 90k miles - $13000

    Which one is a better deal?
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,783
    Which one is in better condition?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    And which do you like better?

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  • magnumekmagnumek Member Posts: 53
    I love both. Both are in perfect condition.

    Lexus has nicer look but Infiniti has better engine, so I like both the same. Infiniti has higher mileage but Lexus is $2k more expensive.

    That's why it all comes up to depreciation and which one is best bang for the buck.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,270
    edited September 2019
    I tend not to keep vehicles more than a couple of years, so it's great to have an exit strategy, but I wouldn't worry about depreciation on either one of those. They're both over half depreciated from their original MSRP and their likely selling price. You win with either one of them by buying used. Just buy whichever one you like best.
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