Real-World Trade-In Values

Sandman6472

I'd go for it! You've obviously made your mind up and besides...you really want it!!! Just do it and enjoy the holidays!

28firefighter

@qbrozen - I'm going to be diving into the GTI market seriously next week after my refi closes.

Can you give me rough auction ballparks for 2019 GTI SE and GTI Autobahn both 6MT and DSG with less than 15k miles? GTI SE would have the experience package which adds fender audio and DCC.

Thanks!

qbrozen

Not enough to go on with the Autobahn. SE looks like mid $24k for the DSG and $1500-$2k less for the manual.

28firefighter

Thanks Q! Jives with my thinking that a manual SE should probably go for around 25ish and DSG 26,5-27...

andres3

28firefighter said:

@qbrozen - I'm going to be diving into the GTI market seriously next week after my refi closes.

Can you give me rough auction ballparks for 2019 GTI SE and GTI Autobahn both 6MT and DSG with less than 15k miles? GTI SE would have the experience package which adds fender audio and DCC.

Thanks!

Both Fender Audio and DCC are worth it for sure.

[Deleted User]

Can I get an idea of a fair price to offer for this one please and thank you?

2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road V6 Auto 4WD
Blue over Graphite
39k miles
1 owner clean Carfax
3TMCZ5AN3HM100743

It's been on their lot at least 4 months, asking $34,900.

28firefighter

dad23 said:

Can I get an idea of a fair price to offer for this one please and thank you?

2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road V6 Auto 4WD
Blue over Graphite
39k miles
1 owner clean Carfax
3TMCZ5AN3HM100743

It's been on their lot at least 4 months, asking $34,900.

Man do these things hold their value - my guess is you could buy a brand new one for not too much more...

kyfdx

dad23 said:

Can I get an idea of a fair price to offer for this one please and thank you?

2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road V6 Auto 4WD
Blue over Graphite
39k miles
1 owner clean Carfax
3TMCZ5AN3HM100743

It's been on their lot at least 4 months, asking $34,900.

Carmax offered $29K for my Sport model, which I think has the same value (but, stick shift, so less)
Toyota dealer offered $27K.

stickguy

And, that’s why I’ll never buy a Tacoma. Maybe a lease if I really want one. I f like the new Rangers.

qbrozen

dad23 said:

Can I get an idea of a fair price to offer for this one please and thank you?

2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road V6 Auto 4WD
Blue over Graphite
39k miles
1 owner clean Carfax
3TMCZ5AN3HM100743

It's been on their lot at least 4 months, asking $34,900.

Given this is a generic used car dealer, I’d be pretty set on $32.5k. That would be $2500-$3k over auction value. But the details are in the details. How are the tires, brakes, etc.

[Deleted User]

Thanks q - it's definitely been taken care of, everything's in good shape. It even looks like the back seats have never been used.

sb55

28firefighter said:

dad23 said:

Can I get an idea of a fair price to offer for this one please and thank you?

2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road V6 Auto 4WD
Blue over Graphite
39k miles
1 owner clean Carfax
3TMCZ5AN3HM100743

It's been on their lot at least 4 months, asking $34,900.

Man do these things hold their value - my guess is you could buy a brand new one for not too much more...

Tacoma values are crazy. My son's crusty 2008 with 160K miles is worth more than my 2014 BMW 535d with 90K miles.

28firefighter

Q - one other wildcard for you.

2018 VW Golf R with DSG. 18k miles, DCC, Fender Audio, etc. What sayeth the books?

qbrozen

No books for me. Too many papercuts. But auction results put it right about $30k

28firefighter

Thank you! There is one coming into Vroom shortly listed for $33 which seems strong given what I see posted for sale elsewhere...and will definitely hold value better than anything else I'm looking at...

Sandman6472

Have the Fender audio system in my 2015 VW Golf SE and like it, a lot! Can crank it up to any level and no distortion. One thing I have to have and that's a decent audio system before anything else, I'd even give up a sun/moon roof to get a better audio system and prefer a factory system already in place to going to a local shop and doing things piece by piece. Just always seems to look better and sound better.
If I do end up with a GM product next time, it's gotta have to have the Bose system or I won't even look. My first consideration has to be size since I'm limited on how long of a vehicle I can fit on my side of the garage, something I can't change until we sell and move in a few years. But after that, a decent audio system is #2 on the list.

Sal0839

Sal0839 said:

Looking for some valuation help for a family member. I used to read this forum for fun like 10+ years ago and remembered how helpful the pros were, so I figured I'd give it a try now. Family member is in his 80s and suddenly can't drive anymore due to health issues, is moving into assisted living and wants to sell this truck outright ASAP. We are thinking of starting with Carmax for a quote and then the Toyota dealer he bought the truck from new. Both are over an hour from his house, and since getting him into the truck to take him there is now a major ordeal (since I imagine he needs to be there to sign the title over), we're just looking for some ballpark ideas beforehand of what the truck might be worth wholesale. Carmax has some 2018s on their website that I swear they are asking the same price for that my relative paid for his new in 2018. I'm guessing high 20s might be realistic for this truck on a "trade in" value?

2018 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4 access cab
11k miles
Silver exterior, grey fabric interior
Only option is a hard tonnau cover.
Very clean, owner was real fussy about it, no modifications, no accidents.
Would be selling in CT 06705 (Waterbury area)

Thanks!

I just thought I'd update this with what we actually ended up doing. We drove it to Carmax in early September. They offered $32,500, after my uncle about fell off the chair in excitement he immediately accepted and we were out of there with a check 30 minutes later. Had a friend follow us there and drive us back home. It was only $2,000 less than he paid for the truck new in 2018.

stickguy

thanks for the follow up. that was a good deal. Those Tacomas just hold value like crazy. I don't understand why anyone buys them used.

xwesx

@Sal0839 That is just incredible! Congrats (lately) to your uncle!

Sandman6472

That's crazy money but I kinda get it. They drive nice and have a good look to them. If I needed something like that, I'd rather go that size than say a F-150 or Silverado, just not comfortable driving the bigger trucks. But a Tacoma or a Colorado/Canyan is really the sweet spot at least for me...not too big but can handle most things one needs to get at a big box store. And they have some nice covers to keep the beds clean and safe. Some even look pretty good to!
I prefer a hatchback instead of a sedan and also prefer a smaller one. But if I needed a small truck for everyday life, the Tacoma would be just about perfect. I've always liked Toyota products and we've owned a few over these past 30 or so years.

28firefighter

This popped up not far from me...

https://www.audibellevue.com/used/Audi/2015-Audi-S4-004fa7e30a0d0c1442b7e98ec0d39b95.htm

How overpriced is it?

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

This popped up not far from me...

https://www.audibellevue.com/used/Audi/2015-Audi-S4-004fa7e30a0d0c1442b7e98ec0d39b95.htm

How overpriced is it?

Asking price is right. No real comps on it but should fall into the high 23s at auction. S4 out of warranty though? I’d probably not want to go over $26k on it. A lot of car for the money but a car that needs a lot of money in years to come.

28firefighter

Good feedback. I’m asking about warranty options. It’s at an AutoNation dealer, so no haggle.

I’m all over the place. Thanks for humoring me.

stickguy

at least the carfax shows full servicing at that dealer. But still, everything going forward on a car already 6 YO is on your dime.

28firefighter

Extended warranty is crazy $$. That’s out.

steine13

Maybe a reason for that...

qbrozen

steine13 said:

Maybe a reason for that...

Ain’t no maybe about it!

andres3

qbrozen said:

steine13 said:

Maybe a reason for that...

Ain’t no maybe about it!

Reason being extended warranty companies are a sham and operate on profit margins in the 200%-2,000% range.

The B8/8.5 S4 platform is a proven workhorse reliable platform. Many S4's have high miles with good records.

I think the price is right. Also, they aren't that expensive to keep up; the use common mass market size parts. It is a souped up A4 afterall.

If the Carfax is clean and the car checks out without prior damage signs, it's a good deal. Is it a low no haggle place?

28firefighter

Or I could do this: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=568704121

3 years newer, will hold its value well, and they're willing to do $34k. This seems like a smarter choice vs. $30k for a GTI Autobahn since it'll hold value better. Thoughts?

stickguy

R looks nice. Do you need to AWD and added complexity? I guess it will be under warranty. And new tires in 14k miles? nasty.

28firefighter

He got new tires because he ran over a nail and they couldn't repair it - replaced all 4 to keep the tread even.

Regarding the complexity of AWD, it will be under warranty until 2024/2025, so I'm not overly concerned about it.

Michaell

I like the R.

breld

Absolutely go for it.

You’ll love it I’m sure. The extra cost over the GTI will be more than worth it. Just cause something cost more doesn’t mean it’s not a better deal.

And I love that color on the R.

breld

New tires is not an insignificant thing either since you won’t have to worry about that cost for quite awhile.

And local - no hassle to get it delivered or travel.

Seriously...this should be in your garage tomorrow.

explorerx4

Virginia plates are kind of unusual for WA.

28firefighter

Military given where in WA.

Won’t be in my garage tomorrow because he has a lien and I need to get loan. Stay tuned though.

qbrozen

andres3 said:

qbrozen said:

steine13 said:

Maybe a reason for that...

Ain’t no maybe about it!

Reason being extended warranty companies are a sham and operate on profit margins in the 200%-2,000% range.

The B8/8.5 S4 platform is a proven workhorse reliable platform. Many S4's have high miles with good records.

I think the price is right. Also, they aren't that expensive to keep up; the use common mass market size parts. It is a souped up A4 afterall.

If the Carfax is clean and the car checks out without prior damage signs, it's a good deal. Is it a low no haggle place?

I won't claim to be any expert, but don't these still suffer from timing chain (tensioner?) issues? And it is still on the backside of the engine?

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

Or I could do this: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=568704121

3 years newer, will hold its value well, and they're willing to do $34k. This seems like a smarter choice vs. $30k for a GTI Autobahn since it'll hold value better. Thoughts?

$34k is OK if it needs NOTHING. Tires and brakes should be knee deep.

28firefighter

Tires are brand new. I’ll confirm brakes.

xwesx

28firefighter said:

Or I could do this: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=568704121

3 years newer, will hold its value well, and they're willing to do $34k. This seems like a smarter choice vs. $30k for a GTI Autobahn since it'll hold value better. Thoughts?

Looks nice. Pricing is generous for a private party sale, but not bad, really, if, like Q mentioned, it needs nothing and includes all accessories (such as the Thule rack, which is dead useful and not a cheap buy... the Yakima unit I just put on my Q7 was over $700).

When you consider the price points, the R is only 13% over the Autobahn, so I doubt it will be difficult to retain the difference (or better) during your ownership: You win.

28firefighter

It is indeed included. I’ve been watching some of the forums and $34k is a fair price. Dealers will be higher anyway.

qbrozen

Note that he needed new tires in 13k miles!

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

Note that he needed new tires in 13k miles!

I mentioned it above - but he ran over a nail and the tire couldn’t be repaired. Because of the AWD and that they already had 13k miles he decided to replace all 4 instead of shaving it down.

qbrozen

Oh oh oh. I skimmed too fast.

breld

@28firefighter - FWIW, pay attention to the feel of the clutch on your test drive. On our 2017, we thought it was “sticky” (for lack of better words) during the test drive, but that never went away and it made for a rather unpleasant driving experience. Basically, the clutch would not release smoothly off the friction point.

Michaell

breld said:

@28firefighter - FWIW, pay attention to the feel of the clutch on your test drive. On our 2017, we thought it was “sticky” (for lack of better words) during the test drive, but that never went away and it made for a rather unpleasant driving experience. Basically, the clutch would not release smoothly off the friction point.

And here I thought it was my poor stick shift skills...

andres3

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

qbrozen said:

steine13 said:

Maybe a reason for that...

Ain’t no maybe about it!

Reason being extended warranty companies are a sham and operate on profit margins in the 200%-2,000% range.

The B8/8.5 S4 platform is a proven workhorse reliable platform. Many S4's have high miles with good records.

I think the price is right. Also, they aren't that expensive to keep up; the use common mass market size parts. It is a souped up A4 afterall.

If the Carfax is clean and the car checks out without prior damage signs, it's a good deal. Is it a low no haggle place?

I won't claim to be any expert, but don't these still suffer from timing chain (tensioner?) issues? And it is still on the backside of the engine?

If you believe everything you read on the internet, then it seems the general consensus is that the issue is both rare and minor. No, only the old V8's required the engine pulled for a timing belt or chain.

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/824457-B8-5-Worth-Buying-Timing-Chain-Concerns

qbrozen

andres3 said:

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

qbrozen said:

steine13 said:

Maybe a reason for that...

Ain’t no maybe about it!

Reason being extended warranty companies are a sham and operate on profit margins in the 200%-2,000% range.

The B8/8.5 S4 platform is a proven workhorse reliable platform. Many S4's have high miles with good records.

I think the price is right. Also, they aren't that expensive to keep up; the use common mass market size parts. It is a souped up A4 afterall.

If the Carfax is clean and the car checks out without prior damage signs, it's a good deal. Is it a low no haggle place?

I won't claim to be any expert, but don't these still suffer from timing chain (tensioner?) issues? And it is still on the backside of the engine?

If you believe everything you read on the internet, then it seems the general consensus is that the issue is both rare and minor. No, only the old V8's required the engine pulled for a timing belt or chain.

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/824457-B8-5-Worth-Buying-Timing-Chain-Concerns

Seems odd there is a TSB for rare and minor, but, hey, buy what you like.

My only real-world datapoint was the one S4 3.0T that was at the repair shop I visited with my Charger. It was getting a new engine.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

Note that he needed new tires in 13k miles!

My brother's car eats through tires within about 12K (or less). But, his car has a staggered setup, so he cannot rotate them.

kyfdx

Sticky tires and premium gas..

Most of the fun cars require them, and if you like to have fun, it's the price of admission.