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  • spatulamanspatulaman Posts: 157
    So, I've had my TT on AutoTrader.com for like 2 weeks. I've gotten calls from every cheap SOB in the continental US. UGH. It is the lowest priced TT (excluding those that are lesser cars, or million milers) within 300 miles of Houston, priced less than Terry suggested, and people want another $2k off. Is it AutoTrader or what? Where can I find the less-cheap buyers, ya'll?
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  • boomer1bboomer1b Posts: 348
    Prob. somebody got a $$ value here and they want to pay LESS and steal it from ya !~........

    OTOH....Its funny for a car dealer having to hear my car is worth X from a customer when in the auto world its worth Y.........

    Hmmmmm...........

    S-man...NOT a slam on you or dealer guys here !
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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,551
    It's my opinion that the Auto Trader tends to attract a lot more flakes and dreamers than a regular newspaper ad will.
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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,551
    It's my opinion that the Auto Trader tends to attract a lot more flakes and dreamers than a regular newspaper ad will.
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  • spatulamanspatulaman Posts: 157
    Hahahaha. Funny you should mention a regular newspaper ad....I tried one of those first. I can indeed say that AutoTraitor attracts more flakes and dramers than the paper, because I DIDN'T GET ANY CALLS WHILE IT WAS IN THE PAPER! It was the Houston Chronicle, BTW.
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  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,551
    I have no idea what the market is on these. Usually if something...anything...doesn't sell it's because it's overpriced or unpopular.

    I do know these appeal to a VERY small slice of the population. A lot of it is timing. You could get five calls or none depending on this.

    Good Luck!
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  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,561
    It's Texas, Dude... now if'n'ya had a 'burban 4x4, you'd have that puppy sold... Also, wasn't it black..? That would dampen people's enthusiasm somewhat, I'd think...
    Good luck nonetheless, it's a great-looking car; I can still remember when the show car came out... even my wife wanted one...
    -Mathias
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  • spatulamanspatulaman Posts: 157
    now if'n'ya had a 'burban 4x4, you'd have that puppy sold

    Yeah...I'm selling the TT to buy a truck, so it should be no problem next time I get ready to sell.
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
                  Whoa .. What - a - week ..... !!

                              Terry.
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ......... You bought a "new" 10fter in August.? no gen, no breeze, no power lift ...?

                  Lets hope you didn't pay a dime more than $5,500 for that dude .....

                  .. you can buy 01/02 22fters with 12ft awnings, 4 burner (in/out) 14,000 btu a/c, 16,000 btu furnace, 30 gal tanks, double propane, double freshwater, full blown head with shower and a maserator for the high $8's low $9's on the retail side ................... ;)

                       Anyway .. Happy Birthday Elvis.!

                                Terry.
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  • chrisbgoodchrisbgood Posts: 79
    Here's my feedback Terry --

    You said mid 17's to low 18's for my 2003 mini cooper, indi blue, all three packages (cold weather, premium, sport) -- a great ride but small for me -- 20,800 miles. I currently owe 15,155.22

    I was shooting for a 3 series but...

    The car: New 2004 Passat 4motion, 1.8t, Tiptronic, Cold Weather package, Telemetrics, dealer added wood trim package (hoping I don't regret that -- it was on the car). Black with anthracite interior. The list price 28 and change.

    The deal:

    Out the door at 22,306 out of me (payoff of Mini is included, of course). Contract is signed, pick up the car on Monday (which is today).

    Hard to tell how well I did -- Edmunds TMV was about 27 and change. I don't think it's a sterling deal (never is in hind sight) but it was low pressure. I think if I'd have went hard nosed I could have done it at 20,000 (I always think that when it's too easy) but it was close enough for me

    In the end the difference was 5500 or so before taxes and fees...
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    .. **In the end the difference was 5500 or so before taxes and fees...**

               Mornin' Chris, thanks for the update .. let's just "say" the dealer dropped the $18,0 figure in the Mini - and you traded for a $5,500 *difference*.? .. looks like the $23,5/$24ish range on the dealer side ... sounds like a pretty good deal to me, dealer kicked the Passat off the lot for about -0- after the rebates and hopes to make it up in the Mini, maybe .. so far your the one thats doing fine, I dunno about the dealer .l.o.l....

                   Enjoy, you did great ..!

                                Terry.
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  • spatulamanspatulaman Posts: 157
    Ok Terry....back in July, you valued my TT at $23,900 asking, take 23.5-22.5, 19k trade in. I've been seeing offers of 21k ish from private party buyers, and two trade numbers of 16.5k and 17k. Have I found every cheap SOB on the planet, or have values declined since I last checked?

    2001 TT Quattro Coupe 225 hp
    Leather
    [non-permissible content removed] Toasters
    Bose
    CD Changer
    Xenons
    17" wheels
    Almost 38k miles
    Tires at 60-70%
    Black/Black
    Back bumper has 2-3 kisses from license plate screws, but those are nearly un-noticible
    One rim has some curb rash
    Interior is clean with some wear, but not quite brand new mint condition
    Houston, TX
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ....... Whats the year and miles on this dude again.?

               Auto Trader is kinda like a JC Penney catalog, lots of folks will look, wish and ponder, but most will go the stores and buy ...

                                Terry.
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  • ny13ny13 Posts: 1
    I am looking to trade a 04 Pontiac Grand Prix GT v6, 200hp, pwr everything. The car is black and has been kept well with 16,000 miles. I am looking to buy a Toyota Tundra Access Cab v8 w/ off road package. I live in upstate NY and w/ only one dealer they don't deal all that great. So I have to go over to Vermont (Burlington area). What I am looking for is what I could expect for trade and average price on the Toyota. Thanks for the help.
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ......... I think the 2 biggest things here is the miles and the color ... right now there is oodles of TT's on the market, most are "in the wrapper" with a light color and bunches with 12/15/20k ... I'm sure it's nice and clean, but the problem is, you have to compete with a 38k black one ..

                   Especially with the "Euro" types, the miles come back to haunt the owners once the market expands ... a good example is Bimmers, take a "clean" 02 Bimmer 745Li with miles in the teens/low 20's, I'm sure there's a dealer somewhere that will pony-up and step deep to the tune of the $49ish range if it's the right color, he "may" "might" "could" drop $50,0 in it ~ if it's cleaner than the Board of Health and "twice" as sanitary .. change the Odo to 38/40k and he won't cough up $41/$42 right now .. most Euro vehicles are very sensitive to miles, especially as the rear goes on ........ $21kish.? .. if you have had good strong ad's running for the last 6/8 weeks, then I would cut and run, dollars are negotiable - miles aren't ............................ :)

                      I hope this helps ...

                                    Terry.
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  • spatulamanspatulaman Posts: 157
    LOL LOL

    Anyways...I looked back through my records and found out that I paid $500 less for it than I thought I did, so I'm willing to drop the price a bit more. If I let it go in the $21-22k range, then I'm only looking at $2.5-3.5k in depreciation for 1 year and 15k miles of driving.
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  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    as i understand the idea of limiting your loss, keep in mind that the amount you paid for it have absolutely nothing to do with the current value of the car.

    in a nutshell, try not to use your buying price to justify how much you will take for it.
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  • spatulamanspatulaman Posts: 157
    Right, price paid doesn't dictate current value, but it does factor into my decision. If I'm going to get clobbered with a huge loss, I'm not going to sell it. I don't really have to get something else, I'd just like to. If it means a huge loss, I'll keep it and I'll drive the (*&$$ wheels off it until I've gotten my money out of it.
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  • woodywwwoodyww Posts: 1,801
    spatulaman,

    You've been seeing *offers of 21k ish from private party buyers*? Are any of those buyers still around?

    That price is $4K more than you've been offered by any dealer so far. If you can get $21K for a 3 year old double (or triple) black TT with 38K miles in TX, in the middle of August.......what's wrong with that, again????

    Anytime you can make an extra $4K by selling privately vs trade in (in that price range), it seems like a no-brainer to me. Every private "buyer" now thinks they're a genius because they can look up used prices on Edmunds, & they all want to pay the trade-in price, not even the "Private Party Price"--unless the car is really low miles, or scarce, etc.

    Personally, I'd pay $$ just to NOT have to drive around in TX with a black interior :-) I'd grab $21K in a heartbeat........
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  • fensterlipsfensterlips Posts: 28
    Terry,

    Welcome back. How was the soiree ??

    If I may re-post. I'm hoping for an opinion from a dealers point of view - and pricing on my Sub

    ======================================================
    Well, I still haven't taken the E320 out back and shot it. I need to wait until our business gets a little more wind under it (and we can pay ourselves and not live off savings) I hope to replace it in the next couple months -- and hope to get $5-ish for it running up my own flag. Reminder - this was the White '94 E320 w/ 143K, grey hides and all the bells - pretty clean too.

    Here's where I need the advise. My wife's Suburban is a 1999 LT 4x4, white, "K1500"-type with the Marketing Package (Southern Calif)with 91K miles, it has heaters everywhere ( mirrors, buns. etc) Tan leather, 3rd seat, rear air, all power, CD, alarm, towing, etc - decent rubber, blows cold, etc. The bad news - my wife kissed a Toyota on the freeway 3 years ago to the tune of $8K worth of work. Had it done at the best possible shop - but it is what it is.... Reading the posts, I'm guessing a private divorce is worth $13 ?? and if I expect a dealer to do the act, I'm looking $10-ish?? Am I close?

    To replace it....
    I'm looking at the heavy deals on a Denali or Denali XL ( except they look like they have "design by Pontiac cartoonists" all over it) I like the power pack and brakes they come with mainly.

    An alternative would be a 3 year old Lexus LX430 on the theory they both will end up lasting another 6 years or so and the Lexus may blow up less than the GMC.

    Another thought is to buy the wife a new DC T&C and just get a used 3/4T Extra Cab P/U to tow the boat. I figure a 3 or 4 year old Dodge or Chevy. This may cost more but provide more utility.

    What is going to be the least painful on the wallet and keep me away from hydraulic lifts and NAPA parts?

    Your advise - from your side - on my next car choices and the pricing on the Sub are appreciated.

    Mike
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  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    Not in Alaska you can't. The used ones that were for sale were the 2002 Coleman 10' no breeze no nothing (less options then we have in the new one) for $5800 at a shady dealer who refused to set it up. A 1991 Coleman 10' for $4k, not in good shape at all, and a 1992 Palomino 8' that was on its last legs for $1k.

    We are happy with the one we bought, its prepped for a/c, so $600 or so and it will have a/c. The generator can be bought later too, right now we have use of one from the base, so its no hurry.

    Nothing is cheap up here, least of all RVs. I guess we could have waited and driven out to the states in the spring and saved a couple grand, but it wasn't worth it to us.

    *snaps fingers* Why didn't I think of having you pick me up one and drive it up?? hehehe
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  • lemmerlemmer Posts: 2,687
    I am looking to buy this one:

    1999 Acura 3.2TL
    73,279 miles
    4 speed auto (was this transmission troublesome?)
    White with gray leather
    No spoiler, no other extras
    At a Honda dealer in Birmingham, AL
    It looks good in the pictures, but I haven't gone to see it yet.
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  • mitchinpamitchinpa Posts: 40
    Hi Terry

    Been awhile since I posted in here. Quick question. The wife's Silver 2000 Solara is about at the end of it's lease. The buyout for the lease is $9300. Wondering what you think it's worth. Here's the specs:

    2000 Solara SE (silver)
    4 banger - manual
    40,000 miles
    all options EXCEPT leather, alarm, and cd changer
    new rubber
    new rotors/brakes
    1 door ding
    a few small scratches (which could probably be buffed out)

    Pittsburgh, PA area.

    Thanks in advance!!!
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ......... I'm sure my eyes are a little strained from lookin' at all those tattoo's .l.o.l.. thats it, tattoo's ...

            So I'm sure I missed it in your post - so, you paid how much for that base 10ft Jayco .?

                              Terry.
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  • drpobdrpob Posts: 11
    Hello Terry,
    Please help with fair auction/dealer price for:
    2002 Lexus LS430(Chicago):
    Silver/ash(grey) leather
    NAV/ML package
    Car has 14K miles and asking price is $43,500
    Thanks in advance,
    drpob
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  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,650
    That's classified information, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

    I know we probably paid too much, do I care? Nope, cause today is the reason we bought it and my daughter's health is worth a few extra G's.

    We paid $10,945 or something like that, that's with freight (they charge extra for that since they barge them up) and dealer prep. Asking price was $12,119 or something like that.

    Yeah, it was spendy, but listening to my daughter cough in all this smoke and not have a way to get her out of it is far worse than spending too much on a camper.

    I'm leaving the house in a little while, heading south, driving as far as I have to until we run out of this smoke. She is having a rough time. Then we'll camp until the smoke clears, after that we'll think about coming home. Hubby can't go, has to work, so this is all me.

    Catch you all when I get back.
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ..... **Welcome back. How was the soiree ??**

                 Soiree ..? that's one word for it ~ how about: truly amazing.! .. You really get to see stuff your Mom said you should never see .. but Mom wasn't there (at least not my Mom) .l.o.l.. another nice thing was riding thru the Badlands and the Black Hills, that is really quite a spectacular ride, I mean bad to the bone and the weather was puuuurfect, 75ish during the days and 55ish at nights and no humidity .. it was coming back early and seeing all the damage from Charley that was the no-fun part .. me, I missed it all, but some folks will be lost for months .... :(

                     Anyway, back to reality ... $8,0 big ones in repair.? .. without seeing/knowing more about the Burb it's hard to say, ya know the finished product, stuff like sand in the paint, overspray on all the windows and the 64lbs of bondo on the hood, ya know the little things .l.o.l.. but if it's nice, finished right, all OEM parts, no plastic fantastic, then trade side, in and around the $8's ... down Retail Rd with a great Ad, artistic detail, deep round things, all serviced, lookin', feelin' and driving like 50k, $11,900 *asking* and drop kick that dude at the first $10,5/$11,5 ...... depends on the finish work - hopefully Mathias will read this and drop the "what to look for" and you can get a better idea of the value.

                3 year old Lexus LX430 is a pretty good idea, there is Tons of these out there with 150/160k with little or no problems .. the Denali or Denali XL's are a great buy with all the incentives ..... what kind of boat.?

                                 Terry.
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ...... There's some hurtin' people that got hit hard from Charley .. contributions are needed and will be greatly appreciated.

    Red Cross Donations: 1-800-435-7669

                                 Terry.
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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    .. **I am looking to trade a 04 Pontiac Grand Prix GT v6, 200hp, pwr everything. The car is black and has been kept well with 16,000 miles**

               16k.? on a 04 .? .. your another one that needs to get a better dating service .. what, do you drive around the block every night til' you run out of gas .?

                Well, the color is good for the area, it's a Grand Prix GT and we have power everything .. the miles are going to kill ya here, plus GP's aren't burning down any bridges right now .. if it's super clean, deep sneakers, looks/feels like 8/9k, then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $12's, "might" "could" "maybe" on an "if" get reeeeal lucky and have a dealer drop the low low low low low low low $13's in it, maybe ............ :)

                        Let me know how it goes ..

                                Terry.
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